russian grizzly 0 Report post Posted February 10 Thank you for being DB. We love you 😍 and appreciate your ultimate fighter attitude. PO is close - please show all haters around what kind of amazingly valuable player you are. PS Kiss Ja once you see him - he is our God we unequivocally believe in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ndq0327 0 Report post Posted February 10 WTF is this 😑 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
russian grizzly 0 Report post Posted February 10 35 minutes ago, Ndq0327 said: WTF is this 😑 Love and support true, loyal fans are supposed to provide to its franchise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IdrinkGuinness 0 Report post Posted February 10 10 minutes ago, russian grizzly said: Love and support true, loyal fans are supposed to provide to its franchise. not jacking up awful shots and becoming one of the worst offensive players in the entire NBA is showing love for the team and franchise . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
russian grizzly 0 Report post Posted February 10 4 minutes ago, IdrinkGuinness said: not jacking up awful shots and becoming one of the worst offensive players in the entire NBA is showing love for the team and franchise . So he is not perfect enough for you. Ok. But he is perfect to me - as every other Grizzly player - this thread is exactly about it. I am waiting here for someone else who can do something more than bitching and moaning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IdrinkGuinness 0 Report post Posted February 10 6 minutes ago, russian grizzly said: So he is not perfect enough for you. Ok. But he is perfect to me - as every other Grizzly player - this thread is exactly about it. I am waiting here for someone else who can do something more than bitching and moaning. its facts though . if brooks is perfect then idk what to tell ya . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
russian grizzly 0 Report post Posted February 10 1 hour ago, IdrinkGuinness said: its facts though . if brooks is perfect then idk what to tell ya . Same as you are perfect to your mom sometimes your players should be supported despite their mistakes. Especially before PO. Unless you think your status of the Grizz fan is only about you being properly entertained. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Truth is OUT 0 Report post Posted February 10 I get it, RusGriz. Brooks is clearly taking all this personally at this point. Nobody benefits from breaking the man. I don't even care if it can be argued that he has brought some of it on himself. I have been rooting for this guy for years. There are times he makes me want to kick my TV, but there are also times when he saves the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grizzfan7979 0 Report post Posted February 10 https://www.theringer.com/nba/2023/2/10/23594163/ranking-every-2023-nba-trade-deadline-deal-by-title-impact Brooks ranks 192/193 on the nba in true shooting percentage, behind only killian hayes. Westbrook is 190 and John Wall 189. Geez. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grizzliesfan777 0 Report post Posted February 10 Some serious fanhood gatekeeping and “No True Scotsman” going on here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Truth is OUT 0 Report post Posted February 11 3 hours ago, Grizzliesfan777 said: Some serious fanhood gatekeeping and “No True Scotsman” going on here. It's called treating these players like human beings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tangogriz 0 Report post Posted February 11 9 hours ago, russian grizzly said: Thank you for being DB. We love you 😍 and appreciate your ultimate fighter attitude. PO is close - please show all haters around what kind of amazingly valuable player you are. PS Kiss Ja once you see him - he is our God we unequivocally believe in. Dillon is that guy in this entire league. That guy with the "ultimate fighter attitude." I think you're right. When the battle is on, its great to have that guy on your side. And you gotta love him for what he brings: the feeling that you're watching someone doing something that for him is more than a game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grizzgolf 0 Report post Posted February 11 Just wish he had better shot selection Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10SC-2-TOKYO 0 Report post Posted February 11 16 hours ago, The Truth is OUT said: I get it, RusGriz. Brooks is clearly taking all this personally at this point. Nobody benefits from breaking the man. I don't even care if it can be argued that he has brought some of it on himself. I have been rooting for this guy for years. There are times he makes me want to kick my TV, but there are also times when he saves the game. Well said. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Truth is OUT 0 Report post Posted February 11 I was glad to read that Brooks was noticeably cheered against the T-wolves. Unfortunately, I think the damage has been done in the eyes of the NBA. Foul trouble is going to be a situation through at least the end of this season. But we won, and Dillon shot 50% on 4 attempts! How's that for rose-colored glasses? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grizzled Vet 0 Report post Posted February 11 22 hours ago, Grizzfan7979 said: https://www.theringer.com/nba/2023/2/10/23594163/ranking-every-2023-nba-trade-deadline-deal-by-title-impact Brooks ranks 192/193 on the nba in true shooting percentage, behind only killian hayes. Westbrook is 190 and John Wall 189. Geez. Do you think he's getting all those minutes because of his offense? Dude is frustrating on offense, but he's drawing the other teams best offensive player 85% of the time. And yes, I agree that it's a problem if he's shooting 10 or more times a game. My hope with Danny Green was at least we'd have a tough defensive player that was a vet that got more of the benefit of the doubt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IdrinkGuinness 0 Report post Posted February 11 do we keep brooks if he doesnt wanna be a 6th man type or if he shows no signs of taking less shots here on out ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dwash 0 Report post Posted February 11 19 minutes ago, IdrinkGuinness said: do we keep brooks if he doesnt wanna be a 6th man type or if he shows no signs of taking less shots here on out ? I think regardless he needs to be gone cause he isnt the answer. If you cant find a better starter we need to repeat what we did at the 2 guard spot. 2 years ago we had Bane, Melton and Grayson battle it out. Bane won in the end and Melton won backup. But there was no vet there to suck up opportunities. Next year roll Roddy, ZW, Laravia and a draft pick out there. May the best man win. You wont get a Bane but hopefully you atleast get a decent trade chip out of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BnaBreaker 0 Report post Posted February 12 3 hours ago, Grizzled Vet said: Do you think he's getting all those minutes because of his offense? Dude is frustrating on offense, but he's drawing the other teams best offensive player 85% of the time. And yes, I agree that it's a problem if he's shooting 10 or more times a game. My hope with Danny Green was at least we'd have a tough defensive player that was a vet that got more of the benefit of the doubt. Exactly... I love DB and think he's a huge asset... as LONG as he keeps his chucking mostly in check. Considering how good he is on the defensive end, I don't mind if he wants to take a questionable three once or twice a game. We can afford it. It's the games where he shoots 3 for 18 or whatever that he gets us into trouble. If only he could let go of his visions of him being the second coming of Kobe and just embrace being a Tony Allen style defensive dawg, he'd be so valued and prized by all Grizzlies fans. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10SC-2-TOKYO 0 Report post Posted February 12 3 hours ago, Grizzled Vet said: Dude is frustrating on offense, but he's drawing the other teams best offensive player 85% of the time. Never to be confused with some of the statistical numbers guys we have around here … I am team eye test - if stats fit what I like - I use em . If they don’t then I ignore them 💫🤣💫 Lately I have been watching Dillon closely - not for his defense but to see if I could figure out what situations make him think he’s a scorer - early results : apparently any and all situations that have him touching the ball - but that’s not what this is about. I accidentally noticed that while Dillon definitely does begin many defensive assignments on the opposing teams’ best player 85% of the time - the way these guys call for switches and the speed and talent level of the people you’re getting switched onto - it’s becoming harder to highlight / showcase a defensive stopper’s man to man defensive chops. It’s been scientifically proven by my eyes that a lot of Dillon’s defensive prowess is just like TA’s and Marcus Smart’s and Pat Bev’s -> it’s not stopping or even slowing down opposing scorers as much as it is irritating them into making uncharacteristic emotion filled mistakes - if that makes sense . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
absolutegrizzguy 0 Report post Posted February 12 Unfortunately dont think you can win an NBA Championship with Brooks (or a guy like him) on your team. Hope Im wrong 😀 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Allen 0 Report post Posted February 12 7 hours ago, absolutegrizzguy said: Unfortunately dont think you can win an NBA Championship with Brooks (or a guy like him) on your team. Hope Im wrong 😀 You can't win with him in the starting line up and the front office knows it. That's why they were going for Og and Bridges. I guarantee Dillon is going to single handily lose a playoff game this year Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BnaBreaker 0 Report post Posted February 12 1 hour ago, Allen said: You can't win with him in the starting line up and the front office knows it. That's why they were going for Og and Bridges. I guarantee Dillon is going to single handily lose a playoff game this year Exactly right. Players like Dillon have historically been an asset to a title winning team... it's just that usually defensive specialists don't also think they're Jordan 2.0... so we just have to find a way to limit his shot attempts. If we do that, we're good, and he becomes a positive contributor once again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimBC 0 Report post Posted February 12 On 2/10/2023 at 3:23 PM, Grizzfan7979 said: Brooks ranks 192/193 on the nba in true shooting percentage, behind only killian hayes. Westbrook is 190 and John Wall 189. Next contract starts with a high base amount for his defense. Bonuses for a good number of assists, Penalties for taking too many shots overall, unless better shooters are out of action. Bonuses for threes that made sense; penalties for taking a contested three with 21 seconds on the clock, etc. End-of-shot-clock efforts exempted. In a game that's not too close, sit him down after what-were-you-thinking shots. Just for a minute. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Truth is OUT 0 Report post Posted February 12 2 hours ago, TimBC said: Next contract starts with a high base amount for his defense. Bonuses for a good number of assists, Penalties for taking too many shots overall, unless better shooters are out of action. Bonuses for threes that made sense; penalties for taking a contested three with 21 seconds on the clock, etc. End-of-shot-clock efforts exempted. In a game that's not too close, sit him down after what-were-you-thinking shots. Just for a minute. That would be a hilarious contract. If a player were asked to sign such a contract, then they already know they are in the wrong place. Let's assume (safe assumption) that everyone understands how DB helps us and how DB hurts us. At this point, it's one of 2 things - Brooks is not coachable, or the coaches aren't able to properly handle him. Whichever is more correct needs to be addressed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites