Hey DB you know what…

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That was the best defensive performance ever by Dillion, but he did take a couple of bad shots against the Celtics. But even Doris Burke said he should be allowed a couple of bad shots with his effort on defense. 

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On 2/12/2023 at 1:34 PM, The Truth is OUT said:

At this point, it's one of 2 things - Brooks is not coachable, or the coaches aren't able to properly handle him. Whichever is more correct needs to be addressed. 

This is good.

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ChatGPT’s analysis from the recent past 

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You are an NBA scout and analyst. Provide an analysis of Dillon Brooks’ game, including his strengths and weaknesses, and give your opinion on his ability to become the starting SF in a championship caliber team.

Dillon Brooks is a 6'6" shooting guard/small forward for the Memphis Grizzlies. He was selected in the second round of the 2017 NBA draft and has quickly established himself as a valuable player on both ends of the court. In this analysis, I will assess Brooks' strengths and weaknesses and provide an opinion on his ability to become a starting small forward on a championship caliber team.

Strengths:

One of Brooks' biggest strengths is his tenacity and competitiveness on the court. He is a hard-nosed defender who is not afraid to guard the opposing team's best player. His physicality and strength allow him to stay in front of his man and challenge shots effectively. Additionally, Brooks has a solid offensive game, with the ability to score from all levels of the court. He is a capable three-point shooter, with a career average of 35.1% from beyond the arc. Brooks is also a solid ball-handler and can create his own shot in isolation situations.

Weaknesses:

One area where Brooks could improve is his shot selection. He can sometimes be prone to taking ill-advised shots, particularly from mid-range. While he has shown improvement in this area, he can still benefit from being more selective with his shot attempts. Additionally, Brooks can sometimes be overly aggressive on the defensive end, leading to foul trouble. He averaged 3.3 fouls per game in the 2021-2022 season, which can limit his playing time.

Opinion:

In my opinion, Dillon Brooks has the potential to become a starting small forward on a championship caliber team. His competitive fire and physicality make him a valuable asset on the defensive end, particularly in matchups against elite players. Additionally, his offensive game has shown steady improvement over the past few seasons, and he has become a reliable scoring option for the Grizzlies. While there are areas where he can improve, such as shot selection and fouling, these are minor issues that can be addressed through coaching and experience. Overall, I believe that Dillon Brooks is a valuable player who has the potential to make a significant impact on a championship caliber team.

Emphasis mine

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4 minutes ago, fanboyslim said:

ChatGPT’s analysis from the recent past 

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Yikes.  Artificial Intelligence is getting scary good.

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39 minutes ago, fanboyslim said:

ChatGPT’s analysis from the recent past 

Emphasis mine

And that is exactly the reason why i say DB experience should be over after this summer. I stopped Dillon for his villainy  and put it more on Taylor a while ago.   He only does what he is allowed to do. 

If Hollins or another Vet coach was in charge - no way would Dillon be allowed to take those floating -fade to the side- mid range - off backboard- jumpers.     They would've yanked him and dog cussed him so bad.  Which wouldve forced him to care more about shot-selection.    Or even better yet forced him to concentrate more on being defensive stopper than some primary option on offense. 

No way do i expect the Coach that "draws up" Ja going 1 0n 4 crunchtime plays to ever be able to put Dillon in check.   They need a divorce. 

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7 hours ago, GrizzTigerFan said:

And that is exactly the reason why i say DB experience should be over after this summer. I stopped Dillon for his villainy  and put it more on Taylor a while ago.   He only does what he is allowed to do. 

If Hollins or another Vet coach was in charge - no way would Dillon be allowed to take those floating -fade to the side- mid range - off backboard- jumpers.     They would've yanked him and dog cussed him so bad.  Which wouldve forced him to care more about shot-selection.    Or even better yet forced him to concentrate more on being defensive stopper than some primary option on offense. 

No way do i expect the Coach that "draws up" Ja going 1 0n 4 crunchtime plays to ever be able to put Dillon in check.   They need a divorce. 

When are you starting the Fire Taylor Jenkins thread?

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18 hours ago, smit-tay griz said:

When are you starting the Fire Taylor Jenkins thread?

 

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22 hours ago, smit-tay griz said:

When are you starting the Fire Taylor Jenkins thread?

Come on, man, you’re an old school poster. Be better than this.

It’s Fire Jenkins Immediately.

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55 minutes ago, fanboyslim said:

Come on, man, you’re an old school poster. Be better than this.

It’s Fire Jenkins Immediately.

haha 

only thing stopping me is the stupid robot puzzle with the car!!

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19 minutes ago, GrizzTigerFan said:

haha 

only thing stopping me is the stupid robot puzzle with the car!!

*beep boop 🤖

[Commadoor Sixty-four 0]

Another side of the coin is if he's traded, who wants to play against him?

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On 2/10/2023 at 3:25 PM, IdrinkGuinness said:

not jacking up awful shots and becoming one of the worst offensive players in the entire NBA is showing love for the team and franchise .

 

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19 hours ago, Commadoor Sixty-four said:

Another side of the coin is if he's traded, who wants to play against him?

I'm not one who wants to see him traded BUT ... if he is -> can you imagine how many shots he will shoot ( and probably miss ) trying to prove himself ? 

 

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Jason Tatum:

               FG%   3P%
Season   46.4    35.7
Career    45.8    37.8

Defended by Dillon 2-12-23:

FGM    FGA    FG%    3PM    3PA    3P%
3          16       18.8     1          8        12.5

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13 hours ago, tangogriz said:

Jason Tatum:

               FG%   3P%
Season   46.4    35.7
Career    45.8    37.8

Defended by Dillon 2-12-23:

FGM    FGA    FG%    3PM    3PA    3P%
3          16       18.8     1          8        12.5

Speaks as lot to how good Dillon is on D. 

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Nobody questions his defense.  The question is will his shot selection ruin us in the playoffs or not

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On 2/12/2023 at 3:43 PM, f-dizzle said:

That was the best defensive performance ever by Dillion, but he did take a couple of bad shots against the Celtics. But even Doris Burke said he should be allowed a couple of bad shots with his effort on defense. 

 

Great, another DB to include on the Grizzlies boards: We already have Bane, Brooks, D'John Bkonchar and now Doris Burke

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On 2/17/2023 at 5:49 PM, fanboyslim said:

Come on, man, you’re an old school poster. Be better than this.

It’s Fire Jenkins Immediately.

hhahahaahahaha. I hope its title that. 

[GrizzTigerFan 0]

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10066187-ranking-every-nba-starting-lineup-right-now

 

Ja Morant, Desmond Bane, Dillon Brooks, Jaren Jackson Jr. and Steven Adams

Injuries to Jaren Jackson Jr., Desmond Bane and now Steven Adams have severely limited the playing time of this starting five, but it has been dominant when available.

When those three are on the floor with Dillon Brooks and Ja Morant, the Memphis Grizzlies are plus-11.9 points per 100 possessions, largely thanks to a 99th percentile defense.

Brooks and Morant are two of this season's worst shooters—they're 505th and 492nd, respectively, among 506 players in "the number of extra points added by field-goal attempts made above league average." That the Grizzlies have even an average offense with both on the floor is probably a credit to the pressure Morant can put on the rim.

But again, this group is elite defensively. JJJ (the Defensive Player of the Year front-runner), Adams, Bane and Brooks deserve a ton of credit for that. Bane and Brooks are better than most wing combos at containing the perimeter, and when opponents do get past that first line of defense, Jackson and Adams are waiting for them.

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4 minutes ago, GrizzTigerFan said:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10066187-ranking-every-nba-starting-lineup-right-now

 

Ja Morant, Desmond Bane, Dillon Brooks, Jaren Jackson Jr. and Steven Adams

Injuries to Jaren Jackson Jr., Desmond Bane and now Steven Adams have severely limited the playing time of this starting five, but it has been dominant when available.

When those three are on the floor with Dillon Brooks and Ja Morant, the Memphis Grizzlies are plus-11.9 points per 100 possessions, largely thanks to a 99th percentile defense.

Brooks and Morant are two of this season's worst shooters—they're 505th and 492nd, respectively, among 506 players in "the number of extra points added by field-goal attempts made above league average." That the Grizzlies have even an average offense with both on the floor is probably a credit to the pressure Morant can put on the rim.

But again, this group is elite defensively. JJJ (the Defensive Player of the Year front-runner), Adams, Bane and Brooks deserve a ton of credit for that. Bane and Brooks are better than most wing combos at containing the perimeter, and when opponents do get past that first line of defense, Jackson and Adams are waiting for them.

Funny how the #1 starting lineup team is sitting at .500.  And its not like they haven't been healthy most of the year.  It's just the history bias.   

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6 minutes ago, ThaGhostOfThaBeet said:

Funny how the #1 starting lineup team is sitting at .500.  And its not like they haven't been healthy most of the year.  It's just the history bias.   

100% bias. 

 I just found it interesting that this article pointed out how bad the shooting is in our starting lineup.   Basically, we have 3 bad shooters in it (Adams, Ja, Dillon) im not sure any other Top team has that much of an obstacle.   Thank Goodness Jaren is back up to average shooter and can you imagine how terrible we would be without Bane uberElite shooting.   Honestly if just Ja or Dillon actually become decent shooters we would be top team in NBA.   I really hope Ja goes back to the lab on his shot otherwise he is heading down Westbrook trajectory that i don't like (only effective at the rim, poor shooter everywhere else and poor FT shooter).  

This  shows ne that all we need to replace Dillon is a guy that is either 6'6'+ and avg on offense/defense OR 6'6'+ and elite defense/weak offense and low usage.   Bane Jaren and Adams are more integral to our success than Dillon is (last season bears that out). 

IMHO  Bane doesnt get enough credit from Grizz fans for his great defense.   Yes he has short arms but he uses his lateral quickness and above avg strength to make up for it.   He is a true 2way player and that's what makes him such a great pairing with Ja.  

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5 minutes ago, GrizzTigerFan said:

100% bias. 

 I just found it interesting that this article pointed out how bad the shooting is in our starting lineup.   Basically, we have 3 bad shooters in it (Adams, Ja, Dillon) im not sure any other Top team has that much of an obstacle.   Thank Goodness Jaren is back up to average shooter and can you imagine how terrible we would be without Bane uberElite shooting.   Honestly if just Ja or Dillon actually become decent shooters we would be top team in NBA.   I really hope Ja goes back to the lab on his shot otherwise he is heading down Westbrook trajectory that i don't like (only effective at the rim, poor shooter everywhere else and poor FT shooter).  

This  shows ne that all we need to replace Dillon is a guy that is either 6'6'+ and avg on offense/defense OR 6'6'+ and elite defense/weak offense and low usage.   Bane Jaren and Adams are more integral to our success than Dillon is (last season bears that out). 

IMHO  Bane doesnt get enough credit from Grizz fans for his great defense.   Yes he has short arms but he uses his lateral quickness and above avg strength to make up for it.   He is a true 2way player and that's what makes him such a great pairing with Ja.  

Adams is a good FG shooter at 59.7%.  Obviously, he's a bad FT shooter, but doesn't participate in 3 point attempts.  

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1 minute ago, ThaGhostOfThaBeet said:

Adams is a good FG shooter at 59.7%.  Obviously, he's a bad FT shooter, but doesn't participate in 3 point attempts.  

cmon you know im referring to his lack of a jumpshot.

Adams Dillon nor Ja are spacing the floor or real threats from beyond the arc.  Only Jaren and Bane are respected from deep in starting lineup.      Which is why FO was willing to give up so many assets for OG or Mikal.   Dillon's spot is really the only position in starting lineup that can be reasonably upgraded.   He is weakest link.  

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38 minutes ago, GrizzTigerFan said:

cmon you know im referring to his lack of a jumpshot.

Adams Dillon nor Ja are spacing the floor or real threats from beyond the arc.  Only Jaren and Bane are respected from deep in starting lineup.      Which is why FO was willing to give up so many assets for OG or Mikal.   Dillon's spot is really the only position in starting lineup that can be reasonably upgraded.   He is weakest link.  

To upgrade Dillon we need an OG or Mikal.  Those guys are REALLY pricey!

Getting Kennard helps out our perimeter rotation...

Best option might be to DRAFT an OG/Mikal type (and probably have to trade UP).  

Although there aren’t to many “perimeter defender” types in the draft.  Just the Thompson Twins?

Not defensive aces (at least by metrics) but Colby Jones and Kris Murray could be options.  

Not sure if Dillon Mitchell should be a lottery pick or a 3rd round pick in the Parisian Barista League, but he had UPSIDE specifically on defense/rebounding.  Maybe some team can mold him into an OG type....

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Having come back from the 3 weeks’ ban, I found amazing that this thread got some good support despite being the very reason of my ban. It turns out that you can be rude to Brooks and Ja, but not to those internet experts who expressed such rudeness on the very Grizzlies forum. All like in real life where good is declared bad and visa versa. And bunch of morons with some ****** authority on guard and the small button for executing it.