Ziaire Williams??

[lions 0]

I,m Hoping Ziare will be ready to shine for the Grizzlies by the play-offs the  team will need his 3s to help the Grizzlies  advance deep into the playoffs

[Allen 0]

11 hours ago, russian grizzly said:

It’s not about him being a raw young prospect. It’s about his inability to absorb any contact which makes him useless in any situation where body contact is involved which means that his role will likely be limited to staying in the corners and occasional lob cuts from there when he can escape body contact by using his quickness and athleticism. He still can become a rotation NBA guy, but a starting forward? No. Let’s admit it and move forward. 

You're talking like a 21 year old can't gain weight and get stronger.  

[russian grizzly 0]

16 minutes ago, Allen said:

You're talking like a 21 year old can't gain weight and get stronger.  

I hope you are right buddy. I sincerely wish ZW will make feel extremely embarrassed of my shameful distrust. But he won’t. That’s a problem.

[Teddy.B 0]

11 hours ago, lions said:

I,m Hoping Ziare will be ready to shine for the Grizzlies by the play-offs the  team will need his 3s to help the Grizzlies  advance deep into the playoffs

 

😰 If we need him to advance in the playoffs we in trouble. 

[smit-tay griz 0]

17 hours ago, lions said:

I,m Hoping Ziare will be ready to shine for the Grizzlies by the play-offs the  team will need his 3s to help the Grizzlies  advance deep into the playoffs

Need his 3s?  What 3s?  Why would we want an under 30% 3-pt shooter for the playoffs?

[memphis slim 0]

it has been a disappointing season for the young fella. maybe it is due to age and lack of maturity. hopefully, he can put the work in and come back in summer league and basically be a year behind schedule with what we were hoping for for this year. that is the hope. the kid has the absolute frame to be a good player/prospect. we shall see.

 

slim. 

[f-dizzle 0]

23 hours ago, memphis slim said:

it has been a disappointing season for the young fella. maybe it is due to age and lack of maturity. hopefully, he can put the work in and come back in summer league and basically be a year behind schedule with what we were hoping for for this year. that is the hope. the kid has the absolute frame to be a good player/prospect. we shall see.

 

slim. 

I honestly think he needs to skip summer league and lock himself into the kitchen and weight room. 

[kevofrommempho 0]

9 minutes ago, f-dizzle said:

I honestly think he needs to skip summer league and lock himself into the kitchen and weight room. 

Nah.  He doesn't need to get much bigger.  His body is what it is.  Kevin Durant has done fine with that body type.  ZW just needs to get better at playing basketball.

[chipc3 0]

On 2/27/2023 at 8:39 AM, memphis slim said:

it has been a disappointing season for the young fella. maybe it is due to age and lack of maturity. hopefully, he can put the work in and come back in summer league and basically be a year behind schedule with what we were hoping for for this year. that is the hope. the kid has the absolute frame to be a good player/prospect. we shall see.

 

slim. 

The knee injury really threw him off his game this season so I am giving him a final pass. He needs to focus on improving with the Hustle, work hard in the summer and come back ready to compete for playing time next season however. Luke on the last year of his deal and I would like to see Ziaire stepping up to replace him in the rotation by then. 

[KyleB 0]

I think some of the early criticism of him was a bit over the top but it is becoming harder and harder to defend him. I think the team's overall development being a little ahead of schedule has hurt his individual development. Its harder and harder to play him the more there is at stake. He would have been better off being drafted by a rebuilding team, which is what most people expected the Grizzlies to still be when they drafted him. He was always going to be a project and competitive teams with lofty aspirations just don't have time for projects. Its the same issue Wiseman has with the Warriors.

[cousy 0]

On 2/26/2023 at 1:39 PM, lions said:

I,m Hoping Ziare will be ready to shine for the Grizzlies by the play-offs the  team will need his 3s to help the Grizzlies  advance deep into the playoffs

He might help. He  has a good release. The Grizzlies rrely heavily on wide open stationary shooters from distance and that will not be very helpful against the better teams. Des, Kennard and Roddy will be crucial for spacing the defense.

[ALT GRIND 0]

On 2/27/2023 at 8:39 AM, memphis slim said:

it has been a disappointing season for the young fella. maybe it is due to age and lack of maturity. hopefully, he can put the work in and come back in summer league and basically be a year behind schedule with what we were hoping for for this year. that is the hope. the kid has the absolute frame to be a good player/prospect. we shall see.

 

slim. 

Yeah, he's one of several guys who need to show something in the Las Vegas Summer League -- also Lofton/LaRavia/Vince/Chandler.

And, hopefully we play him on the WING instead of POINT GUARD.  That was basically a complete waste of time, considering we actually DRAFTED a point guard last summer (Kennedy Chandler).

I would assume ZW is behind Bane/Dillon and Kennard/Roddy/Konchar on the wing rotation depth chart.  If he gets minutes hopefully it's with his BEST LINEUP combo.  Probably something like Ja/Jaren and two of our other main rotation guys...  Ja/Bane/ZW/BC/Jaren would probably be a #NotTerrible lineup.

Instead of ZW, maybe Roddy will be penciled in as our (hypothetical) Dillon Brooks replacement which would make ZW our replacement level 6th man of the future.

[Dwash 0]

3 hours ago, ALT GRIND said:

Yeah, he's one of several guys who need to show something in the Las Vegas Summer League -- also Lofton/LaRavia/Vince/Chandler.

And, hopefully we play him on the WING instead of POINT GUARD.  That was basically a complete waste of time, considering we actually DRAFTED a point guard last summer (Kennedy Chandler).

I would assume ZW is behind Bane/Dillon and Kennard/Roddy/Konchar on the wing rotation depth chart.  If he gets minutes hopefully it's with his BEST LINEUP combo.  Probably something like Ja/Jaren and two of our other main rotation guys...  Ja/Bane/ZW/BC/Jaren would probably be a #NotTerrible lineup.

Instead of ZW, maybe Roddy will be penciled in as our (hypothetical) Dillon Brooks replacement which would make ZW our replacement level 6th man of the future.

Watching ZW struggle to dribble up the court in SL was very painful, it was a wasted chance to help him develop at what he could be good at.

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So is there any hope🧐 that Ziaire will tighten his game up and come back stronger 💪 next season and shoot the basketball 🏀 better? 🤔

[Ndq0327 0]

19 hours ago, Dwash said:

Watching ZW struggle to dribble up the court in SL was very painful, it was a wasted chance to help him develop at what he could be good at.

Yea and people really had the nerve to say he looked decent

[grizzgolf 0]

On 3/3/2023 at 2:00 AM, Dwash said:

Watching ZW struggle to dribble up the court in SL was very painful, it was a wasted chance to help him develop at what he could be good at.

What is he even good at anymore? Not being a jerk. Just dont know how to best use him 

[tangogriz 0]

On 3/3/2023 at 1:00 AM, Dwash said:

Watching ZW struggle to dribble up the court in SL was very painful, it was a wasted chance to help him develop at what he could be good at.

Come on, man. He had problems bringing it up when he was pressured fullcourt by a much smaller player. He learned from that. If opponents defend him with that guy, it will be a highly exploitable mismatch in the halfcourt.

I believe your "wasted chance" is about 3 and D development. He still can practice the standstill 3 all day long in practice. Imo, he can be a mismatch in the halfcourt right now.

 

[ALT GRIND 0]

10 minutes ago, tangogriz said:

Come on, man. He had problems bringing it up when he was pressured fullcourt by a much smaller player. He learned from that. If opponents defend him with that guy, it will be a highly exploitable mismatch in the halfcourt.

I believe your "wasted chance" is about 3 and D development. He still can practice the standstill 3 all day long in practice. Imo, he can be a mismatch in the halfcourt right now.

 

With Ja out and Dillon out and BC out and Adams (probably?) out... maybe it's time to download ALT GRIND version 1.2 and give ZW some quality minutes again.

[tangogriz 0]

1 minute ago, ALT GRIND said:

With Ja out and Dillon out and BC out and Adams (probably?) out... maybe it's time to download ALT GRIND version 1.2 and give ZW some quality minutes again.

Ja and Dillon are temporary but BC is long term important, and I believe they were saving him some wear and tear to get him to the playoffs, so some things gotta be refiggered.

[GrizzTigerFan 0]

Kessler Edwards getting crunchtime minutes in Sac game vs Minny.  playing defense on Ant Man.   This is why i wanted him and wish we couldve taken a flier on him when Nets gave him away. 

[ALT GRIND 0]

3 minutes ago, tangogriz said:

Ja and Dillon are temporary but BC is long term important, and I believe they were saving him some wear and tear to get him to the playoffs, so some things gotta be refiggered.

Xavier Tillman has been playing fairly well so that's a positive.  

BC might just be a much-less-athletic "energy guy" who can't shoot all that great once he gets back.  Not sure how much that's worth although he's a great fit on this team.  

Another point: hopefully we don't try to "rush" Adams back just cuz we have so many guys out...  including BC (long-term) who was basically our 3rd big.  

I might sit Adams out a bit longer, just to get him to 110%.  Then refocus once Ja gets back too.

 

[tangogriz 0]

10 minutes ago, ALT GRIND said:

Xavier Tillman has been playing fairly well so that's a positive.  

BC might just be a much-less-athletic "energy guy" who can't shoot all that great once he gets back.  Not sure how much that's worth although he's a great fit on this team.  

Another point: hopefully we don't try to "rush" Adams back just cuz we have so many guys out...  including BC (long-term) who was basically our 3rd big.  

I might sit Adams out a bit longer, just to get him to 110%.  Then refocus once Ja gets back too.

 

Yes, Tillman and Clarke are tweeners of a different sort. If Tillman can hit the pullup floater like Clarke and add a 15ft threat to the 2nd team scoring, we might be ok. The closers, according to opponent, might have to include more Jaren - Adams frontcourt, which might be a good thing if we're gonna work more on the halfcourt stuff.

[ALT GRIND 0]

48 minutes ago, tangogriz said:

Yes, Tillman and Clarke are tweeners of a different sort. If Tillman can hit the pullup floater like Clarke and add a 15ft threat to the 2nd team scoring, we might be ok. The closers, according to opponent, might have to include more Jaren - Adams frontcourt, which might be a good thing if we're gonna work more on the halfcourt stuff.

Wonder if Jaren and 4 guards (Ja/Bane/Kennard/Dillon) would work.  Bane and Dillon aren’t really tall but they are strong and have good size.  
 

That could be a nice change-of-pace unit.  

[grizzgolf 0]

Time for Williams to step up. 

[Grizzled Vet 0]

On 3/5/2023 at 4:47 AM, grizzgolf said:

Time for Williams to step up. 

Agree, but I don't know.  The dude lacks confidence and looks worse each time out.  I'm not going to pull out the Thabeet level of being lost out there, but last night the thought crossed my mind that I would rather have had Jarrett Culver out there instead of Williams.