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2 minutes ago, Dwash said:

Value wise you gotta get more than Haliburton. He could fit better I feel you but you are trading a top 10 player in his prime for a borderline Allstar.  So I would need an Allstar and a solid starter to do it.

Haliburton + Bane + OG + Jaren + Adams.     How does that compare to Ja + Bane + Dillon + Jaren + Adams??  

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5 minutes ago, GrizzTigerFan said:

Haliburton + Bane + OG + Jaren + Adams.     How does that compare to Ja + Bane + Dillon + Jaren + Adams??  

With Dillon on bench for small ball lineup its championship level defense top to bottom but no go to guy on offense.  But again, who knows if Ja's size and no jumpshot prevents him from being a real go to guy.

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11 minutes ago, Dwash said:

Value wise you gotta get more than Haliburton. He could fit better I feel you but you are trading a top 10 player in his prime for a borderline Allstar.  So I would need an Allstar and a solid starter to do it.

I hate to say it, but Ja is only an all-star for his highlight film type of play. 

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1 minute ago, GoGrizz! said:

I hate to say it, but Ja is only an all-star for his highlight film type of play. 

Filling the seats matters tho.  Thats what you would be selling even thoughnwe know we are no worse off with some other "lesser" pgs.

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What the hell Ja.  Get it together.

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Just now, Dwash said:

Filling the seats matters tho.  Thats what you would be selling even thoughnwe know we are no worse off with some other "lesser" pgs.

And that's why I think he'll be perfect in San Antonio or Houston. He will fill the seats in those arenas and bring spark back inside those organizations. Just hope they can bring back a #2 pick for him for Morant/Ziaire. I think Ja will actually fit perfectly in Detroit because Ja will play with his good friend, Jaden Ivey. Scoot Henderson may not fill the seats in San Antonio or Houston.

I do like the Morant for Halliburton trade. The Grizzlies have options this summer to do what they want to do. I just hope the fans know they may not be excited about trading Ja because the Grizz may have to be okay with "losing" a trade just to ship Ja out of town.

Will Houston, San Antonio, and Detroit be willing to give up their #1 pick (just ask) or their #2 pick (especially Detroit because them getting Ja with Ivey, Cunningham, Bogdonovic, Wiseman, and Duren) puts Detroit in win now mode.  I'm shocked Detroit is actually tanking this year.

I mean, they can call Sacramento and see if they want to get rid of Fox, call Atlanta and see if they want to get rid of Trae Young, call Indiana and see if they want to get rid of Halliburton. Call Portland and see if they want to get rid of Lillard (I do want picks coming back to Memphis in that deal because of Damian's age and contract). If that means that Ziaire and Roddy or LaRavia are gone too, then that's fine. But the #1 objective to do this summer is to weigh options. As we have seen as of late in the NBA, anybody can be traded in the NBA.

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48 minutes ago, ACGrizz said:

I would do Ja for Haliburton straight up in a heartbeat. I don't even need any picks included from Indy.

Haliburton is a stud, a much better shooter and defender and seems like a great teammate with no issues off the court. Also one year behind Ja in terms of contract trajectory. He's also 6'5", so he pairs quite nicely with Bane. You lose the explosiveness/athleticism and some of the on-court "wow" factor of Ja, but like someone else said before (GTF, think it's you), the model of small, non-shooting PG doesn't equate to championships.

Ok. Lol. Yall need to take a breath. Get outside, reevaluate. This will pass. Ja will mature as young men do, and we will be fine. Breath.

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Still pretty early to call for a trade - even as absolutely mind-numbingly stupid as Ja has been of late.

That said, he’s a known quantity (25-30 PPG + 7-10 APG) at a key position and is only 23 and locked up for a few years. You don’t trade him for another guy unless it’s for only a handful of players OR a top 1-2 pick + a few talented young guys at minimum.

I still think this all blows over with a multi-game suspension, while hopefully it sends a message to Ja to stop hanging out with trash and stop trying to be hard because everyone sees through it. Just really hoping this is the wake up call for him to chill and reevaluate who he associates with.

This is also all the more reason this team needs to cut out the youth movement at this point and get some real vets on the team. Guys like Danny Green (albeit healthy) who have been in the league for a decade and have been in winning teams who can keep the young guns in line when stuff like this happens off the court and when things go wrong on the court.

Its also why pairing a young unproven head coach with a team full of young guys is probably starting to show its negatives. You need one side or the other to at least be experienced.

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Yea talking trading Ja, not gonna happen. He needs to smarten up and it's gotta be him that does it, these incidents aren't on his parents or his friends it's all on him. He's got to know he's got to move differently now, stop putting yourself into situations like this where other people can take advantage of you on social media and in real life.

If I'm Silver I nip this in the butt and suspend him a game. Kyrie and Meyers Leonard got suspended for retweeting and saying a word respectively. This is an actual action that shouldn't be glorified. 

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7 minutes ago, cdp said:

Yea talking trading Ja, not gonna happen. He needs to smarten up and it's gotta be him that does it, these incidents aren't on his parents or his friends it's all on him. He's got to know he's got to move differently now, stop putting yourself into situations like this where other people can take advantage of you on social media and in real life.

If I'm Silver I nip this in the butt and suspend him a game. Kyrie and Meyers Leonard got suspended for retweeting and saying a word respectively. This is an actual action that shouldn't be glorified. 

I just don’t get this narrative of people taking advantage of Ja, in social media or elsewhere. When athletes behaves like idiots, someone is going to report it. 
 

And the axiom is nip it in the bud, e.g. a flower bud, not butt. 

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17 minutes ago, The J Crew said:

I just don’t get this narrative of people taking advantage of Ja, in social media or elsewhere. When athletes behaves like idiots, someone is going to report it. 
 

And the axiom is nip it in the bud, e.g. a flower bud, not butt. 

I was thinking about that kid suing Ja, how some people were calling out the kid. He's just doing something just about everyone else would do in that situation; trying to get a little money out of a millionaire. Ja has to recognize there's going to be people left right and center trying to do that.

I had a feeling it was "bud", but Ja needs a nip on the *** to wake him the **** up anyways lol

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1 minute ago, cdp said:

I was thinking about that kid suing Ja, how some people were calling out the kid. He's just doing something just about everyone else would do in that situation; trying to get a little money out of a millionaire. Ja has to recognize there's going to be people left right and center trying to do that.

I had a feeling it was "bud", but Ja needs a nip on the *** to wake him the **** up anyways lol

Ja needed a kick in the butt about a year ago. But he has surrounded himself with a pose of groupies, it appears. 
 

 

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4 minutes ago, cdp said:

I was thinking about that kid suing Ja, how some people were calling out the kid. He's just doing something just about everyone else would do in that situation; trying to get a little money out of a millionaire. Ja has to recognize there's going to be people left right and center trying to do that.

I had a feeling it was "bud", but Ja needs a nip on the *** to wake him the **** up anyways lol

Kid bout to richer than any of his posse thats for sure

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1 hour ago, srmjr23 said:

Ok. Lol. Yall need to take a breath. Get outside, reevaluate. This will pass. Ja will mature as young men do, and we will be fine. Breath.

I've thought we'd be better off from a basketball perspective with another PG over Ja before all this off-the-court nonsense; the off-the-court nonsense just makes it slightly more possible that we'd actually trade Ja whereas before there was no chance we'd ever move off of him.

Just looking through there are 4 PGs I see that could be in the conversation if they really were to move off of Ja:

• Haliburton
• Fox
• SGA
• Garland

Fox and Garland, i don't think make the team better and we end up playing a similar stylistic game - Garland is a better shooter, but worse at creating/drawing fouls I think.

Haliburton and SGA I think would be a better fit for this team though. Teams don't win championships with high-usage, poor shooting smaller point guards with defensive deficencies.

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1 minute ago, ACGrizz said:

I've thought we'd be better off from a basketball perspective with another PG over Ja before all this off-the-court nonsense; the off-the-court nonsense just makes it slightly more possible that we'd actually trade Ja whereas before there was no chance we'd ever move off of him.

Just looking through there are 5 PGs I see that could be in the conversation if they really were to move off of Ja:

• Haliburton
• Fox
• SGA
• Garland

Fox and Garland, i don't think make the team better and we end up playing a similar stylistic game - Garland is a better shooter, but worse at creating/drawing fouls I think.

Haliburton and SGA I think would be a better fit for this team though. Teams don't win championships with high-usage, poor shooting smaller point guards with defensive deficencies.

I don’t see almost any of those guys as available for Ja. SGA and Garland in particular are almost assuredly off the table in particular.

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1 hour ago, srmjr23 said:

Ok. Lol. Yall need to take a breath. Get outside, reevaluate. This will pass. Ja will mature as young men do, and we will be fine. Breath.

Or maybe he will continue to act like an idiot. 
 

And he’s a father and will be 24 in September, so not that young. Clearly old enough to stop with the clownish fake thug routine. 

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2 minutes ago, Grizzliesfan777 said:

I don’t see almost any of those guys as available for Ja. SGA and Garland in particular are almost assuredly off the table in particular.

You're right, I don't think/know whether any of those 4 teams would trade them - just trying to say about where I'd view Ja's value. It's really, really hard to come up with a feasible Ja trade.

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1 minute ago, ACGrizz said:

You're right, I don't think/know whether any of those 4 teams would trade them - just trying to say about where I'd view Ja's value. It's really, really hard to come up with a feasible Ja trade.

I gotcha. But yeah, no reason to trade him since equal return for his value is not going to be seen in a trade.

He’s a proven commodity at age 23 who still is years away from his prime and under a multi-year contract, but it’s unlikely any team is going to be willing (or able to) to trade multiple starter-level players and/or multiple high picks to acquire him. Thus, you’ll never get close to a fair return on him. Plus, most of the teams that might have the ammo to pull such a trade are basically in this division, which makes a trade even less likely imo. 

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If we could get Haliburton and Benedict Mathurin for Ja in the off-season I’d do it in a heartbeat.

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On 1/3/2023 at 12:11 PM, Ole Dirty Klondike said:

Not to me.

Doesn't affect my life one way or the other and yes he's a punk who sold his story to TMZ. Just because you like to be messy and obsess over NBA players lives and try to call them names, doesn't mean everybody wants to hear this mess. This is so inconsequential to the success of the Grizz or what's going on. As I said, if he committed a real crime, report it. This all started because you said that the local media didn't report it and I was just explaining why they didn't report. It's a nothing burger and furthermore TMZ pays for stories. This is so silly.

 

Where is ODK now, lol? 

He assured us many times Ja's bad off-court behavior was 'inconsequential to the success of the Grizz". And it's a nothing burger. 

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2 hours ago, ThaGhostOfThaBeet said:

 

Ugghhh, we are even making that marble-mouthed idiot Shannon Sharpe look like a prophet. 

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6 hours ago, The J Crew said:

Or maybe he will continue to act like an idiot. 
 

And he’s a father and will be 24 in September, so not that young. Clearly old enough to stop with the clownish fake thug routine. 

I'm really just referring to the idea of trading Ja, more than anything. Snap reactions like tRadE jA! are understandable, I guess(?) but it's not remotely a smart decision to trade easil the best player rhe franchise has ever seen because he's making horrendously stupid mistakes, as a young man. Maybe he'll never mature; I don't know. I bet he does though.

Though he's recently and to this point done some stupid ****, my own perception of him is that he's not a bad guy or the type to continue to get in his own way as he matures

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13 minutes ago, srmjr23 said:

I'm really just referring to the idea of trading Ja, more than anything. Snap reactions like tRadE jA! are understandable, I guess(?) but it's not remotely a smart decision to trade easil the best player rhe franchise has ever seen because he's making horrendously stupid mistakes, as a young man. Maybe he'll never mature; I don't know. I bet he does though.

Though he's recently and to this point done some stupid ****, my own perception of him is that he's not a bad guy or the type to continue to get in his own way as he matures

I sure hope you’re right. 
 

A franchise like Memphis never wants to trade a young star. And certainly not at the bottom of his trade value. 

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8 hours ago, srmjr23 said:

Ok. Lol. Yall need to take a breath. Get outside, reevaluate. This will pass. Ja will mature as young men do, and we will be fine. Breath.

I’m sitting 🪑 here… right next to you.

 

* breathe

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