chipc3 0 Report post Posted November 9, 2021 8 minutes ago, Rdk4121 said: I'm starting to think they like him as the option 1 with the bench unit. He's started the last two at least 4th quarters with the bench unit. I think it's a good role for him. I think bane is probably a better shot creator at this point (or at least they run more actions for him), so I think that unit makes sense for him. Plus I think melton is better served guarding 1s or 2s (taking the tougher matchup, allowing Ja to take the easier matchup). Bane is more of a 3 defensively (and not a good defender either). I've always seen Bane as the next Vinnie Johnson. He is strong for a guard, an excellent outside shot but possibly best served coming off the bench. That doesn't mean Melton is the answer at the two guard because he has flaws as well not the least being his size. He's a scoring guard in a point guard's body. An excellent defender despite his lack of size, Melton can get hot and carry a team offensively for a short period but he isn't a night in, night out offensive threat. Really the Grizzlies don't have an ideal starting SG. Whoever starts will have hot and cold nights and fans won't be satisfied. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrizzTigerFan 0 Report post Posted November 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Rdk4121 said: I'm starting to think they like him as the option 1 with the bench unit. He's started the last two at least 4th quarters with the bench unit. I think it's a good role for him. I think bane is probably a better shot creator at this point (or at least they run more actions for him), so I think that unit makes sense for him. Plus I think melton is better served guarding 1s or 2s (taking the tougher matchup, allowing Ja to take the easier matchup). Bane is more of a 3 defensively (and not a good defender either). I think that has more to do with Taylor trying to stagger his better scorers to help out the second unit. Grizz broadcasting crews and GrindCity guys constantly say two things: Bane will remain starter Jaren is being groomed to be the starting 5. I do think Bane's defense has been good so far this season but no debate on Melton being better defending PGs. Believe it or not Bane has better defensive rating over Melt so far. In starting lineup Jaren (108df) Bane (109dfrtg) Melt (111) Ja (116) and Adams (115). Keep in mind that once DB is back he will take on the most difficult matchup (1-3) so Bane is more than capable of guarding the other. https://www.nba.com/stats/team/1610612763/players-advanced/?sort=NET_RATING&dir=1 Plus Bane is the greater threat from 3 which maximizes spacing better. Because teams guard him behind the arc like they do Ja in the paint. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrizzTigerFan 0 Report post Posted November 9, 2021 13 minutes ago, Rdk4121 said: I think they only switch when Ja is involved in the action. When it is Melton or Bane involved in the pick and roll, they seem to fight over it (typically) which doesn't leave the big out on an island. I just don't think the Ja and Adams pairing is working at all. Jaren doesn't mind switching those, as he's rather good at it. yea me either. Other than the hard screens he sets - and occasional passes he isnt' a good fit with Ja due to the poor PickNroll defense and bad hands on offense. Its well past time they fully unlock Jaren and Ja together. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rdk4121 0 Report post Posted November 9, 2021 20 minutes ago, GrizzTigerFan said: I think that has more to do with Taylor trying to stagger his better scorers to help out the second unit. Grizz broadcasting crews and GrindCity guys constantly say two things: Bane will remain starter Jaren is being groomed to be the starting 5. I do think Bane's defense has been good so far this season but no debate on Melton being better defending PGs. Believe it or not Bane has better defensive rating over Melt so far. In starting lineup Jaren (108df) Bane (109dfrtg) Melt (111) Ja (116) and Adams (115). Keep in mind that once DB is back he will take on the most difficult matchup (1-3) so Bane is more than capable of guarding the other. https://www.nba.com/stats/team/1610612763/players-advanced/?sort=NET_RATING&dir=1 Plus Bane is the greater threat from 3 which maximizes spacing better. Because teams guard him behind the arc like they do Ja in the paint. Bane's defensive box Plus minus is -2.9 compared to melton at -0.6. That matches with the eye test. Edwards was cooking Bane last night. They even switched Melton on him at one point because it wasn't going well for Bane. Bane shoots 37% on 7.3 attempts. Melton shoots 39.1% on 5.6 attempts. They're very comparable there. Bane certainly does have a gravity to him there, don't get me wrong. My theorietical starting lineup is Ja, Melton, Dillon, Brandon, Jaren. All of those players fit very well together. I would prefer Dillon just twit the opposing teams starting SF. We don't really have anyone else with the size to matchup with opposing SFs. Bane is strong but has really short arms. His defensive shortcomings are largely mitigated off the bench, and his offensive impact could be even greater. I still think he'll close out games though with Ja, Melton, Dillon, and Jaren. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rdk4121 0 Report post Posted November 9, 2021 26 minutes ago, GrizzTigerFan said: yea me either. Other than the hard screens he sets - and occasional passes he isnt' a good fit with Ja due to the poor PickNroll defense and bad hands on offense. Its well past time they fully unlock Jaren and Ja together. We finally saw Ja and Jaren for extended minutes last night, and we come back from 16 down with 7 minutes left. It really is that simple. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrizzTigerFan 0 Report post Posted November 9, 2021 10 minutes ago, Rdk4121 said: We finally saw Ja and Jaren for extended minutes last night, and we come back from 16 down with 7 minutes left. It really is that simple. yes FINALLY! 12 minutes ago, Rdk4121 said: Bane's defensive box Plus minus is -2.9 compared to melton at -0.6. That matches with the eye test. Edwards was cooking Bane last night. They even switched Melton on him at one point because it wasn't going well for Bane. Bane shoots 37% on 7.3 attempts. Melton shoots 39.1% on 5.6 attempts. They're very comparable there. Bane certainly does have a gravity to him there, don't get me wrong. My theorietical starting lineup is Ja, Melton, Dillon, Brandon, Jaren. All of those players fit very well together. I would prefer Dillon just twit the opposing teams starting SF. We don't really have anyone else with the size to matchup with opposing SFs. Bane is strong but has really short arms. His defensive shortcomings are largely mitigated off the bench, and his offensive impact could be even greater. I still think he'll close out games though with Ja, Melton, Dillon, and Jaren. I hear ya but Taylor values offense more than defense hence why Grayson started games last season. Bane is gonna remain the starter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chipc3 0 Report post Posted November 9, 2021 Minnesota is the worst team in the league in 4th quarter scoring. It really is that simple. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PutARingOnIt#GrizzFan 0 Report post Posted November 9, 2021 3 hours ago, GrizzTigerFan said: I think that has more to do with Taylor trying to stagger his better scorers to help out the second unit. Grizz broadcasting crews and GrindCity guys constantly say two things: Bane will remain starter Jaren is being groomed to be the starting 5. I do think Bane's defense has been good so far this season but no debate on Melton being better defending PGs. Believe it or not Bane has better defensive rating over Melt so far. In starting lineup Jaren (108df) Bane (109dfrtg) Melt (111) Ja (116) and Adams (115). Keep in mind that once DB is back he will take on the most difficult matchup (1-3) so Bane is more than capable of guarding the other. https://www.nba.com/stats/team/1610612763/players-advanced/?sort=NET_RATING&dir=1 Plus Bane is the greater threat from 3 which maximizes spacing better. Because teams guard him behind the arc like they do Ja in the paint. bane has the worst defensive rating on the team who gets regular mins...a team that bottom in the league in defense..ijs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrizzTigerFan 0 Report post Posted November 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, PutARingOnIt#GrizzFan said: bane has the worst defensive rating on the team who gets regular mins...a team that bottom in the league in defense..ijs don't believe that at all. Do you have some data to back that up? I posted stat data from NBA.com that says otherwise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PutARingOnIt#GrizzFan 0 Report post Posted November 9, 2021 2 hours ago, Rdk4121 said: Bane's defensive box Plus minus is -2.9 compared to melton at -0.6. That matches with the eye test. Edwards was cooking Bane last night. They even switched Melton on him at one point because it wasn't going well for Bane. Bane shoots 37% on 7.3 attempts. Melton shoots 39.1% on 5.6 attempts. They're very comparable there. Bane certainly does have a gravity to him there, don't get me wrong. My theorietical starting lineup is Ja, Melton, Dillon, Brandon, Jaren. All of those players fit very well together. I would prefer Dillon just twit the opposing teams starting SF. We don't really have anyone else with the size to matchup with opposing SFs. Bane is strong but has really short arms. His defensive shortcomings are largely mitigated off the bench, and his offensive impact could be even greater. I still think he'll close out games though with Ja, Melton, Dillon, and Jaren. imo the best closing lineup up is going to be ja/melton/db/slowmo/3js slowmo has to close games because teams are doubling the heck out of ja and i wouldn't want melton,dillon nor jaren handing the ball...slowmo gives the team a release value in those situations plus he is the best inbound passer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PutARingOnIt#GrizzFan 0 Report post Posted November 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, GrizzTigerFan said: don't believe that at all. Do you have some data to back that up? I posted stat data from NBA.com that says otherwise. Rk Age G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% 2P 2PA 2P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS ORtg DRtg ▲ 1 Killian Tillie 23 3 0 21 0.0 16.2 .000 0.0 9.3 .000 0.0 7.0 .000 0.0 0.0 7.0 4.6 11.6 0.0 7.0 4.6 2.3 2.3 0.0 28 99 2 Xavier Tillman Sr. 23 8 0 119 5.7 11.9 .483 0.4 3.7 .111 5.3 8.2 .650 1.2 2.0 .600 3.3 7.4 10.6 3.7 5.3 0.4 2.0 2.0 13.1 108 107 3 Jaren Jackson Jr. 22 10 10 269 8.0 22.1 .361 4.2 12.0 .348 3.8 10.1 .375 4.5 4.7 .962 2.0 8.9 10.9 2.2 1.4 3.4 3.4 6.5 24.6 99 110 4 Kyle Anderson 28 10 0 226 6.7 16.6 .403 2.4 5.2 .458 4.3 11.4 .377 1.5 1.9 .778 2.8 9.7 12.5 6.0 1.7 1.3 1.7 3.7 17.3 112 112 5 De'Anthony Melton 23 10 10 285 8.0 19.2 .420 3.8 9.6 .393 4.3 9.6 .446 1.4 1.7 .800 1.5 6.0 7.5 4.3 2.7 1.5 2.4 3.6 21.2 107 112 6 John Konchar 25 9 0 116 4.2 8.0 .526 0.4 2.9 .143 3.8 5.0 .750 0.8 1.7 .500 3.4 6.3 9.7 2.9 2.1 1.3 1.3 5.5 9.7 120 113 7 Tyus Jones 25 10 0 170 8.0 14.9 .538 3.4 6.9 .500 4.6 8.0 .571 0.3 0.3 1.000 0.6 6.6 7.2 9.7 2.3 0.0 0.6 1.4 19.8 147 114 8 Steven Adams 28 10 10 250 6.4 12.5 .516 0.0 0.0 6.4 12.5 .516 3.3 3.5 .944 6.8 9.2 16.0 5.1 1.4 1.0 2.7 3.1 16.2 123 114 9 Ja Morant 22 10 10 351 13.5 27.8 .485 2.5 6.8 .367 11.0 21.0 .523 6.7 8.7 .762 1.7 6.1 7.8 10.0 2.2 0.4 5.7 2.1 36.1 111 114 10 Brandon Clarke 25 7 0 100 9.7 18.0 .541 0.0 2.4 .000 9.7 15.6 .625 3.4 5.8 .583 5.4 7.3 12.7 2.4 1.0 1.5 1.0 5.8 22.9 122 115 11 Ziaire Williams 20 9 0 165 5.3 15.9 .333 3.8 11.8 .325 1.5 4.1 .357 0.6 0.6 1.000 1.2 2.7 3.8 1.5 2.1 1.2 2.4 4.4 15.1 90 115 12 Desmond Bane 23 10 10 302 10.0 21.5 .466 4.4 11.8 .370 5.6 9.7 .583 1.9 2.1 .923 0.8 5.0 5.8 3.9 1.5 0.3 2.6 3.2 26.3 113 117 13 Santi Aldama 21 3 0 21 9.3 27.8 .333 2.3 13.9 .167 7.0 13.9 .500 4.6 7.0 .667 4.6 7.0 11.6 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 7.0 25.5 97 119 14 Jarrett Culver 22 2 0 16 6.1 15.2 .400 0.0 6.1 .000 6.1 9.1 .667 9.1 12.2 .750 3.0 6.1 9.1 6.1 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 21.3 129 120 15 Sam Merrill 25 3 0 38 5.1 18.0 .286 5.1 18.0 .286 0.0 0.0 1.3 3.8 .333 0.0 2.6 2.6 3.8 0.0 0.0 2.6 2.6 16.7 86 122 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrizzTigerFan 0 Report post Posted November 9, 2021 5 minutes ago, PutARingOnIt#GrizzFan said: Rk Age G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% 2P 2PA 2P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS ORtg DRtg ▲ 1 Killian Tillie 23 3 0 21 0.0 16.2 .000 0.0 9.3 .000 0.0 7.0 .000 0.0 0.0 7.0 4.6 11.6 0.0 7.0 4.6 2.3 2.3 0.0 28 99 2 Xavier Tillman Sr. 23 8 0 119 5.7 11.9 .483 0.4 3.7 .111 5.3 8.2 .650 1.2 2.0 .600 3.3 7.4 10.6 3.7 5.3 0.4 2.0 2.0 13.1 108 107 3 Jaren Jackson Jr. 22 10 10 269 8.0 22.1 .361 4.2 12.0 .348 3.8 10.1 .375 4.5 4.7 .962 2.0 8.9 10.9 2.2 1.4 3.4 3.4 6.5 24.6 99 110 4 Kyle Anderson 28 10 0 226 6.7 16.6 .403 2.4 5.2 .458 4.3 11.4 .377 1.5 1.9 .778 2.8 9.7 12.5 6.0 1.7 1.3 1.7 3.7 17.3 112 112 5 De'Anthony Melton 23 10 10 285 8.0 19.2 .420 3.8 9.6 .393 4.3 9.6 .446 1.4 1.7 .800 1.5 6.0 7.5 4.3 2.7 1.5 2.4 3.6 21.2 107 112 6 John Konchar 25 9 0 116 4.2 8.0 .526 0.4 2.9 .143 3.8 5.0 .750 0.8 1.7 .500 3.4 6.3 9.7 2.9 2.1 1.3 1.3 5.5 9.7 120 113 7 Tyus Jones 25 10 0 170 8.0 14.9 .538 3.4 6.9 .500 4.6 8.0 .571 0.3 0.3 1.000 0.6 6.6 7.2 9.7 2.3 0.0 0.6 1.4 19.8 147 114 8 Steven Adams 28 10 10 250 6.4 12.5 .516 0.0 0.0 6.4 12.5 .516 3.3 3.5 .944 6.8 9.2 16.0 5.1 1.4 1.0 2.7 3.1 16.2 123 114 9 Ja Morant 22 10 10 351 13.5 27.8 .485 2.5 6.8 .367 11.0 21.0 .523 6.7 8.7 .762 1.7 6.1 7.8 10.0 2.2 0.4 5.7 2.1 36.1 111 114 10 Brandon Clarke 25 7 0 100 9.7 18.0 .541 0.0 2.4 .000 9.7 15.6 .625 3.4 5.8 .583 5.4 7.3 12.7 2.4 1.0 1.5 1.0 5.8 22.9 122 115 11 Ziaire Williams 20 9 0 165 5.3 15.9 .333 3.8 11.8 .325 1.5 4.1 .357 0.6 0.6 1.000 1.2 2.7 3.8 1.5 2.1 1.2 2.4 4.4 15.1 90 115 12 Desmond Bane 23 10 10 302 10.0 21.5 .466 4.4 11.8 .370 5.6 9.7 .583 1.9 2.1 .923 0.8 5.0 5.8 3.9 1.5 0.3 2.6 3.2 26.3 113 117 13 Santi Aldama 21 3 0 21 9.3 27.8 .333 2.3 13.9 .167 7.0 13.9 .500 4.6 7.0 .667 4.6 7.0 11.6 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 7.0 25.5 97 119 14 Jarrett Culver 22 2 0 16 6.1 15.2 .400 0.0 6.1 .000 6.1 9.1 .667 9.1 12.2 .750 3.0 6.1 9.1 6.1 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 21.3 129 120 15 Sam Merrill 25 3 0 38 5.1 18.0 .286 5.1 18.0 .286 0.0 0.0 1.3 3.8 .333 0.0 2.6 2.6 3.8 0.0 0.0 2.6 2.6 16.7 86 122 Guess its just a matter of which data you believe in. Eye Test shows me that Ja and Adams are the worst defenders in starting lineup by a country mile. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PutARingOnIt#GrizzFan 0 Report post Posted November 9, 2021 15 minutes ago, GrizzTigerFan said: Guess its just a matter of which data you believe in. Eye Test shows me that Ja and Adams are the worst defenders in starting lineup by a country mile. ja and bane are terrible defenders they where last year and still are...thats why i rather bane come off the bench...and any big besides jaren is goning to look terrible on defense pair with ja and bane Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrizzTigerFan 0 Report post Posted November 9, 2021 12 minutes ago, PutARingOnIt#GrizzFan said: ja and bane are terrible defenders they where last year and still are...thats why i rather bane come off the bench...and any big besides jaren is goning to look terrible on defense pair with ja and bane Bane has been good defensively and was improving last year which is why he was the only guard playable in Playoffs besides Dillon. Bane isn't a defensive liability at all and is a solid defender. Which is probably why the data varies greatly on different statistical tools. https://www.thestepien.com/2020/04/06/desmond-bane-scouting-report/ this scouting report is pretty spot on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PutARingOnIt#GrizzFan 0 Report post Posted November 9, 2021 2 hours ago, GrizzTigerFan said: Bane has been good defensively and was improving last year which is why he was the only guard playable in Playoffs besides Dillon. Bane isn't a defensive liability at all and is a solid defender. Which is probably why the data varies greatly on different statistical tools. https://www.thestepien.com/2020/04/06/desmond-bane-scouting-report/ this scouting report is pretty spot on. good is an overstatement...slowmo,melton and 3js have been good on defense..its a reason why the grizzs are one of the worst defense in the league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bhoyal 0 Report post Posted November 9, 2021 Adams seems to have gotten a bad case of "stone hands" - fumbling away entry passes in the lane. He needs to get over that really fast. (Adam apologists in process of moving the goalposts to give us a reason why all is hunky dory with how he is playing) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10SC-2-TOKYO 0 Report post Posted November 9, 2021 29 minutes ago, bhoyal said: Adams seems to have gotten a bad case of "stone hands" - fumbling away entry passes in the lane. He needs to get over that really fast. (Adam apologists in process of moving the goalposts to give us a reason why all is hunky dory with how he is playing) Agreed want to add - i keep seeing him playing the nail , holding the ball trying to figure out who gets it and when and where to get it to them Marc was good at that 7 foot point guard thing … Adams is not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smit-tay griz 0 Report post Posted November 9, 2021 You guys all make judgments far too quickly. We're 10 games into the season. All of our defense as a team has been bad. Dillon's hurt. We have a lot of new players. Guys are still learning how to play together. Last night we made a comeback against the league's worst 4th quarter team when we played our players who had the most experience playing with each other. Don't make any judgment based on these 10 games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rdk4121 0 Report post Posted November 9, 2021 3 hours ago, GrizzTigerFan said: Bane has been good defensively and was improving last year which is why he was the only guard playable in Playoffs besides Dillon. Bane isn't a defensive liability at all and is a solid defender. Which is probably why the data varies greatly on different statistical tools. https://www.thestepien.com/2020/04/06/desmond-bane-scouting-report/ this scouting report is pretty spot on. Bane had a good run in the playoffs on defense. Posted a +1.9 DBPM, which was second behind Kyle for rotation players. That being said his regular season DBPM was -0.3, which isn't that bad, but towards the bottom of our team, behind Grayson, ahead of JV. This year he's been horrendous on defense. -2.9, dead last among rotation players. To be fair, no one on our team has played particularly good defense this year. 1 minute ago, smit-tay griz said: You guys all make judgments far too quickly. We're 10 games into the season. All of our defense as a team has been bad. Dillon's hurt. We have a lot of new players. Guys are still learning how to play together. Last night we made a comeback against the league's worst 4th quarter team when we played our players who had the most experience playing with each other. Don't make any judgment based on these 10 games. That's true as well. Chip mentioned that 4th quarter nonsense as well. I don't care if they are the worst 4th quarter team in the league, they were up 16 points with 7 minutes left with their big 3 are playing very well. We deserve all the credit there for making the plays that needed to be made to win that game, and the resiliency to win in overtime after that buzzer beater. The defense will get better, I'm sure of that. Our team should know how to play together as well though, there aren't a ton of new faces in the lineup. Dillon's return will help in theory, as he's the energy burst we need. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smit-tay griz 0 Report post Posted November 10, 2021 7 minutes ago, Rdk4121 said: That's true as well. Chip mentioned that 4th quarter nonsense as well. I don't care if they are the worst 4th quarter team in the league, they were up 16 points with 7 minutes left with their big 3 are playing very well. We deserve all the credit there for making the plays that needed to be made to win that game, and the resiliency to win in overtime after that buzzer beater. The defense will get better, I'm sure of that. Our team should know how to play together as well though, there aren't a ton of new faces in the lineup. Dillon's return will help in theory, as he's the energy burst we need. I mostly agree with this. We did make plays down the stretch to their credit, but they did it with the most tenured Grizzlies. But our lousy defense this season has a lot to do with the fact that neither Bane nor Melton has been able to fill Dillon's defensive role, Adams is completely new, and ZW has more minutes off the bench than anyone other than Kyle, which involves some new players as well as guys learning different roles, which makes for some team defensive confusion. It really showed in the Portland game. I think our defense will improve once Dillon gets back and everyone has more familiarity, and rotations have become more set. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bhoyal 0 Report post Posted November 10, 2021 Here, how about this impersonation of an Adams apologist. Here goes... But-but-but... scoring points is overrated. It's for prima donnas. I'm glad he doesn't score points. And a +/- of minus 17 is actually pretty good. Don't knock it. How many points did YOU score against Towns last night? And his ranking of 29th in centers for player efficiency rating isn't really that bad. It's better than Cody Zeller. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Subliminal 0 Report post Posted November 10, 2021 41 minutes ago, bhoyal said: Here, how about this impersonation of an Adams apologist. Here goes... But-but-but... scoring points is overrated. It's for prima donnas. I'm glad he doesn't score points. And a +/- of minus 17 is actually pretty good. Don't knock it. How many points did YOU score against Towns last night? And his ranking of 29th in centers for player efficiency rating isn't really that bad. It's better than Cody Zeller. Seriously though, who are all of the imaginary Adams apologists? Y’all are making up boogeymen that don’t even exist. Also @bhoyal, you never answered to your crimes of exaggerating Dillon’s hand injury. I hope you aren’t going down the road of starting manufacture fake drama. Shame on you! Edit: I see now you did respond but I’m still calling shenanigans! He’s upgraded to questionable for the game tomorrow. Shame!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bhoyal 0 Report post Posted November 10, 2021 As a big DB fan, there is no "fake" concern on my part about how his hand looks. It's legit concern. I'll say that again, slower this time. As a big DB fan, there is no "fake" concern on my part about how his hand looks. It's legit concern. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Now, it was stated both at normal and slow speed. There should be no misunderstanding of what it means. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrizzTigerFan 0 Report post Posted November 10, 2021 3 hours ago, Rdk4121 said: Bane had a good run in the playoffs on defense. Posted a +1.9 DBPM, which was second behind Kyle for rotation players. That being said his regular season DBPM was -0.3, which isn't that bad, but towards the bottom of our team, behind Grayson, ahead of JV. This year he's been horrendous on defense. -2.9, dead last among rotation players. To be fair, no one on our team has played particularly good defense this year. difference in playoffs and now is that Bane didn't have to guard the best opposing scorer like he is now. Plus Utah didn't have big scoring wings so Bane could stand his ground. Melton's size limits him from guarding the bigger wings too. Bane gets those assignments now . His defensive rating will improve dramatically once he is able to just guard Guards when Dillon returns. Context has to be taken into account - he isn't a bad defender. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Subliminal 0 Report post Posted November 10, 2021 2 hours ago, bhoyal said: As a big DB fan, there is no "fake" concern on my part about how his hand looks. It's legit concern. I'll say that again, slower this time. As a big DB fan, there is no "fake" concern on my part about how his hand looks. It's legit concern. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Now, it was stated both at normal and slow speed. There should be no misunderstanding of what it means. Video from 3 weeks ago disagrees. To quote Jaren: “24 is coming back realllll soon. A storm is coming. He’s going to be at this podium and he’s going to tell you.” “Shoutout Canada.” Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
