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47 minutes ago, tangogriz said:

I own a handgun. I don't think its just wingnuts who are now worried about the future.

America has a serious problem. Extremist militia members swim in a vast ocean of standardized wingnut hate speech.

Politicos have always insulted each other, but Newt Gingrich made it part of the Republican standard operating procedure. Gingrich was the Speaker of the US House of Representatives from 1995 to 1999.  Beginning in the 1980s, he sent out papers and tapes instructing fellow wingnuts how to label Democrats.

According to one of Newt’s GOPAC documents sent to Republican members of Congress, wingnuts should use these words:

"decay, failure (fail) collapse(ing) deeper, crisis, urgent(cy), destructive, destroy, sick, pathetic, lie, liberal, they/them, unionized bureaucracy, "compassion" is not enough, betray, consequences, limit(s), shallow, traitors, sensationalists, endanger, coercion, hypocricy, radical, threaten, devour, waste, corruption, incompetent, permissive attitude, destructive, impose, self-serving, greed, ideological, insecure, anti-(issue): flag, family, child, jobs; pessimistic, excuses, intolerant, stagnation, welfare, corrupt, selfish, insensitive, status quo, mandate(s) taxes, spend (ing) shame, disgrace, punish (poor...) bizarre, cynicism, cheat, steal, abuse of power, machine, bosses, obsolete, criminal rights, red tape, patronage."

These are 30 year old, poll-generated words for a standard script. They are everywhere now. And yet wingnuts say that Democrats are hatemongers.

Weak-minded, wingnut, junior militiamen grow up hearing Democrats called "destructive", "sick", "pathetic" "traitors." And the've heard it over and over again because of the mountain of media and money behind bend-over-for-big-business conservatives.

There's an entire generation of Americans who take it for granted that Democrats are anti-family, anti-child and anti-jobs. Its just another con job so that the current crop of upper-1-percenters can divert attention while they gorge and grab whatever's not nailed down.

Its ironic that militiamen believe they are soldiers protecting the country, but in reality they are brain-washed, diversionary pawns that cover for gluttons like Trump who fatten on their labor.

Just look at what Trump did on taxes. He promised a middle-class tax cut and promised that he and the rich would not profit. What happened? The middle-class got a small cut while the upper-1-percenters got a massive cut and corporations got big breaks.

Wingnut media leads their followers to fear that Democrats bring the new world order. Wake up wingnuts. You are adding to the power of the thing you dread. Religious fundamentalist may soon have control of the Supreme Court. Wingnuts may think thats a good thing but those fundamentalists are indebted to a corporate power structure. Already, the court has ruled that corporations under the law are, in political payout ways, the same as people. Along with other rulings this allows unlimited, hidden, corporate political donations. Do you wingnuts see how this can turn against you?

Universal religions and global corporations _are_ the seas in which the wingnuts swim. There's still some clean air above.

TAKE MY GRANNY, NOT MY FREEDOM.

First of all, miltia's, until the past few decades, were not always seen as a bad thing. Historically they were an important part of each states protection and enforcement of law. Even today some militia's exist strictly as disaster prepardness. The definition has become muddy, but understandably so. Still, they are not race or politically defined. There are milita groups of different races. NFAC has garnered some recent publicity, for example. According to the southern poverty law center, there are 264 black separatist groups, which many, most, or all of could probably meet the modern definition of "militia". Is NFAC an extremist group? Heck yes.

Democrats viewed as anti family? Golly gee, I wonder why. Look at BLM. The founders call for the end of the nuclear family. That, my friend, is anti family. Look at the abortion issue. An overwheming majority of Americans are not totally against it, but do believe it has went too far. We are living in the 21st century, where even children can get birth control without parental consent, yet over half of all black pregnacies in NYC end in abortion. That is barbaric, and most would agree if it wasn't such a political lightning rod for politicians. There is a big difference between the ability for a woman to have an abortion and abortion abuse. 

The U.S. had some of the highest corporate taxes in the world. Everyone is in agreement that we needed to bring more jobs back to the U.S. To do so, it had to be made less penalizing for the corporations. It should be a no-brainer that in order to compete, U.S. companies can't grow AND be the most taxed companies in the world. 

POLITICAL CORRUPTION my friend. As long as Americans are complaining about democrats or republicans, the political corruption continues. Embrace an issue, not a political party. They are just using you. Just ask yourself, by supporting a party, how much are you ignoring? Be honest. 

If Biden was an independant, he would be universally laughed off and ignored. Imagine any other presidential candidate in American history telling reporters that he would answer an important question AFTER the election because they would only report about it if he answered now. Completely insane. Don't drink the kool aid. Stick to issues and honesty. What do you believe are the greatest threats to our country? YOU, not the DNC. For me, it's the CCP. That is why I voted for Trump. Do me a favor and start looking into the CCP's plans and the actions they take against their own people and the world. I don't care what party a politician belongs to. If they have a plan to combat what I view as the largest threat to the world, I'm with them.

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On 10/10/2020 at 7:40 PM, Father Pat said:

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I assume that you don't vote... except for school board or something else where folks don't declare parties. Its like saying you refuse to use money and will only honor the barter system. There are many problems with the party system but that's how humans get things done. Without parties there would be chaos. My guess is that you do vote and its for Republicans. If it makes you feel better to believe that folks who vote Democrat don't think about the issues, go right ahead. We understand.

I don't know what BLM family policy you talk about because it is way out there on the fringe and doesn't deserve serious discussion.

Why can't Trump give a heavy-duty, hardcore condemnation of the white thug clubs?

Many of your arguments are kinda like the President's deflections. For instance, on the Charlottesville violence, reporters ask him to denounce the Nazis and the murderer so Trump starts talking about all the fine racists, er I mean people, that were there just to protest the statue removals. Briefly he mentioned that Nazis and murder are bad. Its gotten worse. He doesn't want to offend the thugs, because he wants their help.

Right now, right here, there is imminent danger from gangs of white supremisists. That is mainly caused by Trump's encouragement.

I know folks with your opinions. The facts are right in front of them but they have some  explanation that depends on a self contradictory belief system: the intel agencies are good but they all got it wrong on the Russia Hoax, the FBI is good but they've got it backassward on the kidnapping plot.

The answer to the abortion issue is in your statement. Even now in the 21st century, wingnuts are fighting against birth control education and family planning. If wingnuts honestly wanted to greatly reduce abortions they would favor full funding for early education and free or low cost birth control options. They don't, because the policy is set by the religious institution. Its not a values issue. Its a population issue. Religions are still running the ancient population race. There are billions of humans that follow the 3 universal religions because over time those religions were the best at aquiring new members. Children are the easiest means so usually they oppose policies that reduce the birth rate. The big 3 got there by, on some issues, favoring rules that put the growth of the institution above the well-being of its individual members. The proof is that wingnuts do not place a high voting prority on policies to improve the environment of children in poverty. They don't strongly oppose mistreatment of kids at our southern border. They didn't protest Trump's treachery in leaving Kurdish families with children running for their lives.

We are not going to war with China so we have to fight that terrible system by getting together with other countries to pressure them when and where we can. It should be obvious by now that Trump has no grand plan against China. Its a moment-by-moment policy dictated by politics not principle. Whipping up on China diverts attention from Russia. Trump kisses Putin's backside while Russia does what you list for China. Russia harms its citizens, bullies and invades its neighbors, assassinates opponents, attacks our elections and undermines our world leadership. It seems to me that you should be arguing to get all American businesses out of China. You are not. There is no going back. We are too heavily invested in each other. China is the long term threat but Russia is threatening now.

For the wealthy, the stated income tax rate is not the actual rate paid because of the bus load of loop holes. Now its worse with Bozo driving the bus. Even so,  we will eventially see Bozo's finances. If Republicans cared more about the country than they do about winning, before he became the nominee, they would have forced Bozo to disclose like everyone else.

Its smart politics for Biden not to take a stand on the packing-the-court issue. It puts pressure on the 2-faced Republicans. You should be upset that Trump's last appointment was a serial sexual predator as a young man and this next one has been hiding her "Handmaid" mentality.

I fear most the greedy. There are some folks who want everything that they can get their hands on. I used to fear a great crash caused by greed like the one at the end of the Bush administration. Well, we printed money like crazy and made it through what could have been another Great Depression. Now, my greatest fear for this country is a totalitarian takeover like the one being plotted in the Whitehouse right now.

TAKE MY GRANNY, NOT MY FREEDOM.

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18 hours ago, tangogriz said:

I assume that you don't vote...

I have voted for democrats, republicans, independents, and have written in names a couple of times. That assumption highlights your problem; you think in extremes. It also fails to address the truth of being all in for a party requires one to be willfully ignorant of the failings of that party. Read your answers and tell me that you don't see your deflections based on assumptions. In a nut shell you are assuming things about others for the simple fact of someone NOT voting democrat.

I'll tell you something about the "intel" agencies. The general public doesn't know squat about them. For example, the CIA exists mostly for the advantage of the CIA. They murdered my former commanding officer. Most have no idea about them.

Here's the deal; there was, is, and always will be a "boogie man". That is to divert public attention. Ask yourself how many times have the "intel" agencies warned about this or that, yet failed to know about or stop any of the major happenings? Funny how that is. Who was the major threat Dec. 6th, 1941? Who was the major threat Sept. 10th, 2001? There are more examples less profound. You only know what they want you to know.

If you want to blindly follow politicians and repeat what they want you to repeat, that is up to you. Many do. As long as you see only democrats and "wingnuts", they have you right where they want you.

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1 hour ago, bhoyal said:

Bush was warned ahead of time about 9/11 and ignored it.  And then, his boss, crooked d!ck cheney made a fortune on invading Iraq, etc.

No screaming eagle crap. Just as FDR was warned about Japan. Those facts have nothing to do with the point. Who (or what) was the "boogie man" the day before. It sure as heck wasn't Japan or Al-Qaeda.

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On 10/10/2020 at 6:11 PM, tangogriz said:

I own a handgun. I don't think its just wingnuts who are now worried about the future.

America has a serious problem. Extremist militia members swim in a vast ocean of standardized wingnut hate speech.

Politicos have always insulted each other, but Newt Gingrich made it part of the Republican standard operating procedure. Gingrich was the Speaker of the US House of Representatives from 1995 to 1999.  Beginning in the 1980s, he sent out papers and tapes instructing fellow wingnuts how to label Democrats.

According to one of Newt’s GOPAC documents sent to Republican members of Congress, wingnuts should use these words:

"decay, failure (fail) collapse(ing) deeper, crisis, urgent(cy), destructive, destroy, sick, pathetic, lie, liberal, they/them, unionized bureaucracy, "compassion" is not enough, betray, consequences, limit(s), shallow, traitors, sensationalists, endanger, coercion, hypocricy, radical, threaten, devour, waste, corruption, incompetent, permissive attitude, destructive, impose, self-serving, greed, ideological, insecure, anti-(issue): flag, family, child, jobs; pessimistic, excuses, intolerant, stagnation, welfare, corrupt, selfish, insensitive, status quo, mandate(s) taxes, spend (ing) shame, disgrace, punish (poor...) bizarre, cynicism, cheat, steal, abuse of power, machine, bosses, obsolete, criminal rights, red tape, patronage."

These are 30 year old, poll-generated words for a standard script. They are everywhere now. And yet wingnuts say that Democrats are hatemongers.

Weak-minded, wingnut, junior militiamen grow up hearing Democrats called "destructive", "sick", "pathetic" "traitors." And the've heard it over and over again because of the mountain of media and money behind bend-over-for-big-business conservatives.

There's an entire generation of Americans who take it for granted that Democrats are anti-family, anti-child and anti-jobs. Its just another con job so that the current crop of upper-1-percenters can divert attention while they gorge and grab whatever's not nailed down.

Its ironic that militiamen believe they are soldiers protecting the country, but in reality they are brain-washed, diversionary pawns that cover for gluttons like Trump who fatten on their labor.

Just look at what Trump did on taxes. He promised a middle-class tax cut and promised that he and the rich would not profit. What happened? The middle-class got a small cut while the upper-1-percenters got a massive cut and corporations got big breaks.

Wingnut media leads their followers to fear that Democrats bring the new world order. Wake up wingnuts. You are adding to the power of the thing you dread. Religious fundamentalist may soon have control of the Supreme Court. Wingnuts may think thats a good thing but those fundamentalists are indebted to a corporate power structure. Already, the court has ruled that corporations under the law are, in political payout ways, the same as people. Along with other rulings this allows unlimited, hidden, corporate political donations. Do you wingnuts see how this can turn against you?

Universal religions and global corporations _are_ the seas in which the wingnuts swim. There's still some clean air above.

TAKE MY GRANNY, NOT MY FREEDOM.

It started well before Newt.  Or Lee Atwater.

How about Pat Buchanan??

A MUST READ:

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a54275/charge-of-the-right-brigade/

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17 hours ago, bhoyal said:

It started well before Newt.  Or Lee Atwater.

How about Pat Buchanan??

A MUST READ:

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a54275/charge-of-the-right-brigade/

I remember those guys.

Its interesting how that article covers some of the intersections of Trump and Buchanan, ie The Central Park 5. I didn't realize that Buchanan called for lynching one of those innocent boys.

Atwater, who died from a brain tumor, apologized for some of his dirty deeds in helping to get Republicans elected.

I think Buchanan ran for President like 50 times. I used to watch The McLaughlin Group. He was a regular.

I don't think you have to know the show to find it funny but here's one of the best ever SNL spoofs of a TV show.

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Buchanan had some kind words for Hitler:  

"an individual of great courage, a soldier's soldier in the Great War, a political organizer of the first rank, a leader steeped in the history of Europe, who possessed oratorical powers that could awe even those who despised him"

(1977)

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Twenty years ago, Donald Trump derided Republican Pat Buchanan as an anti-Semite, a racist and a homophobe. Now, as president, he quotes him.

READ ALL ABOUT IT:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2019/01/14/trump-quotes-pat-buchanan/2568197002/

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I know that folks are concerned about corruption, so give a listen to some of the Democratic Senators at the Coney Barrett hearing. The big money is on the handmaid, so they are talking about the money and not so much about her clumsy evasions.

Here is an example from Rhode Island Senator Whitehouse:

Big polluters and other special interests are taking over US courts because wingnuts have made a deal with the devil. (Ok, Whitehouse didn't talk about the "devil.")

In order for the wingnuts to get their social issues:

get rid of Obama Care,
get rid of a woman's right to an abortion,
get rid of a gay's right to marry

they have joined forces with the dark money folks.

During the Chief Justice Roberts era, there were 80 cases about special interest power. They align with these catagories:

1. Unlimited dark money in politics
2. Diminish the use of the civil jury
3. Weaken regulatory agencies
4. Ignore voter suppression and extreme gerrymandering by states

The record on these cases is 80 to 0. The wingnuts won them all with a 5 to 4 vote where the 5 were always Republican judges.

Coney Barrett has lied about her public statements to cause Trump to choose her. She has hidden her involvement in extreme wingnut groups or causes.

If the wingnuts use the courts to move on these issues, don't be surprized if the Supreme Court is expanded to 11 members who have a defined number of years to serve.

The Senate wingnuts refused Obama's moderate judge a hearing for 10 months.
They refused to investigate credible charges against Kavanaugh,
and now this unprecedented, hypocritical Coney Barrett rush.

If the Supreme Court is changed, it will be the wingnuts who have caused it.

TAKE MY GRANNY, NOT MY FREEDOM.

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Have you ever thought about what ways you want to grow or change? What you can do to better yourself?

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On 10/22/2020 at 3:05 PM, Father Pat said:

Have you ever thought about what ways you want to grow or change? What you can do to better yourself? 

Those are very interesting questions. What did I do to deserve such mistreatment?

I can't post personal info when many of my posts insult the thugs that live in my part of the country. I don't get paid enough.

I believe that you are a sincere person, so my first reaction is to ask myself, "Oh, s***t, what have I done?"

On the other hand, I assume this ties in with progressive versus conservative issues, ie. the "mommy state" Obamacare versus the current "wild west" healthcare system.

Be well.

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The healthcare debate is an example of the right-left debate on many issues.

Covid testing is just one example, and I assume its going on now, but early on the same test could cost $80 or $1000 depending on circumstances. That's why some call the current healthcare system the "wild west."

I have a conservative friend whose whole political outlook may have changed because of a close encounter with the profiteering in the healthcare system.

Trump ran in 2016 on a platform of replacing Obamacare. For his first 2 years he had complete control of both houses of Congress. What happened? Why couldn't he replace it with his undefined, mysterious better system.

Maybe you hate the Clintons, lots of folks do, but beginning with Hillary's time as First Lady and then through to Obama, many of the best and the brightest tried to devise a system that would cover everyone equally. That's the test. How do you economically cover pre-existing conditions? Most of these folks didn't spend an adult lifetime smoking or over-eating. They lost the DNA lottery.

Here Trump lies. The entire Republican party lies. If they had a realistic solution, it would be all over the news. Its like Covid, their plan results in many deaths. They have weighed the deaths against the profits and find it acceptable. Let's look at the numbers. Let's see who wins. And let's see who loses. It ain't the upper 1 percenters that's for sure.

The earth is a spaceship governed by realistic, scientific laws. Its not a magic kingdom where those who follow the realm will get absolution for their sins, and thats true no matter how many Catholics sit on the Supreme Court.

I don't think progressives are talking about a revolution. Let's think a little further down the road. What does it mean to tweak the system to cover the DNA disadvantaged?

Is it false utopian thinking to incentivize a system that values individuals?

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I am so happy. In cruising YOUTUBE I find that Oberman is back.

The "subsequent" Worst Person In The World can be named.

"Trump can not even get buying votes done correctly."

Keith, you are the man. I will be grinning for the next hour.

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On 10/24/2020 at 1:35 AM, tangogriz said:

Those are very interesting questions. What did I do to deserve such mistreatment?

I can't post personal info when many of my posts insult the thugs that live in my part of the country. I don't get paid enough.

I believe that you are a sincere person, so my first reaction is to ask myself, "Oh, s***t, what have I done?"

On the other hand, I assume this ties in with progressive versus conservative issues, ie. the "mommy state" Obamacare versus the current "wild west" healthcare system.

Be well.

I must admit, I did not expect you to answer that question in the way that you did. I feel a little bad about it now, but hopefully you will look into it and work on it. (I'm being sincere, not attacking)

"Have you ever thought about what ways you want to grow or change?" is a question that most people have no problem with. Most people recognize the fact that they are flawed. We all are. We all have room for improvement as human beings. It is an easy thing for most people to quickly rattle off some things that they want to improve about themselves. A narcissist will answer that question by being bewildered, angry, or give a blatant false answer.

In your defense, there has been a narcissism explosion the last decade. I have a brother that is a narcissist. I had always just assumed that a narcissist was just someone with a big ego, but that is only a small part of it. A few years ago I was wondering why he acted the way he does, why would someone do the things that he does, so I looked into it. I had always just ignored the things he did because we often give family a pass with things. Anyway, he's a full blown narcissist. No doubt about it. 

For decades now, our country has been cultivating narcissists. The schools have been teaching children that they (the individual) are the centers of the universe. Just showing up "earns" a participation trophy. If parents discipline you, you are to call the cops or family services. On and on. Self sacrifice is no longer a virtue. When I was looking into it with regards to my brother, I also asked people that might know. Cops, Doctors, Nurses, Preachers, even a Nun. People that deal with others on a regular basis and have been around for a little while. I simply asked them if there are more narcissist today than ever before, or if they thought there was a narcissism explosion over the past few years, and every one I asked answered the same; an absolute "yes".

Anyway. Nothing personal. Do with it what you will. Hopefully you, me, and everyone, will always strive to be a better person.

God bless.

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On 10/25/2020 at 3:08 PM, Father Pat said:

I must admit, I did not expect you to answer that question in the way that you did. I feel a little bad about it now, but hopefully you will look into it and work on it. (I'm being sincere, not attacking)

"Have you ever thought about what ways you want to grow or change?" is a question that most people have no problem with. Most people recognize the fact that they are flawed. We all are. We all have room for improvement as human beings. It is an easy thing for most people to quickly rattle off some things that they want to improve about themselves. A narcissist will answer that question by being bewildered, angry, or give a blatant false answer.

In your defense, there has been a narcissism explosion the last decade. I have a brother that is a narcissist. I had always just assumed that a narcissist was just someone with a big ego, but that is only a small part of it. A few years ago I was wondering why he acted the way he does, why would someone do the things that he does, so I looked into it. I had always just ignored the things he did because we often give family a pass with things. Anyway, he's a full blown narcissist. No doubt about it. 

For decades now, our country has been cultivating narcissists. The schools have been teaching children that they (the individual) are the centers of the universe. Just showing up "earns" a participation trophy. If parents discipline you, you are to call the cops or family services. On and on. Self sacrifice is no longer a virtue. When I was looking into it with regards to my brother, I also asked people that might know. Cops, Doctors, Nurses, Preachers, even a Nun. People that deal with others on a regular basis and have been around for a little while. I simply asked them if there are more narcissist today than ever before, or if they thought there was a narcissism explosion over the past few years, and every one I asked answered the same; an absolute "yes".

Anyway. Nothing personal. Do with it what you will. Hopefully you, me, and everyone, will always strive to be a better person.

God bless.

I hate that about your former commander and I'm sorry that you had a brother like Trump. I'm sure it was difficult.

Trump and the wingnuts are making moves in the courts and among extremists to hijack a fair election. For them, defeating the "mASSES" overrules the Constitution.

I tried to steer your question to healthcare because its a healthcare issue.
You never answered my earlier question, one that, with the latest developments in the courts is pretty important.

Is it OK for Trump to use the virus to keep control of the country?

Before this is over Trump will be responsible for many thousands of deaths of the gullible who believe him and the chain of others they infect. We could have smothered the virus early if we had a leader not a narcissist.

Trump confronts the virus like he does Putin, with cowardice. Leverage explains Putin. Does incompetence explain the virus? The other option is corruption. It would be important to know when Trump decided to encourage folks not to wear masks. Just imagine if early on we had worn masks and the admistration had flooded the country with funds for PPE and armies of contact tracers.

Why are some judges, including the Republicans on the Supreme Court, ignoring the virus and helping Trump. They're going to limit the vote counting while Trump's lackey running the Post Office slow walks the mail-in ballots.

Trump has encouraged his folks to vote in person. He knows that Democrats will ignore his lies, act responsibly and vote by mail.

This helps the wingnuts because a large number of folks from both parties make technical errors on the ballots. And because there will be a lot more Democrats using the mail, there will be a lot more Democratic votes discarded.

Trump has been lying about voting by mail for how long, about as long as he's been lying about the virus. Doesn't this qualify as evil? Won't people die?

Trump lied about the tax cuts.
He lied about having a healthcare plan.
He lied about showing his taxes (which would demonstrate his independence from outside pressure.)
He is obviously making lots of money from foreigners (which is expressly forbidden in the Constitution.)
Every time he speaks there is a long list of things that he lied about.
If he wasn't President he would have several prosecutions against him.
Our world leadership wanes every day he darkens the Whitehouse.
His courtship of white thugs clubs is vomit worthy. It's equalled though by his slavery to Putin.
Many of the folks who used to work for him say now that he is unfit to serve. (Before Trump this was unimagineable.)
Its too nauseating to continue.

Father Pat, you know about narcissists. How can you abide this Conman and Thief as our leader?

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Trump is hiding some damaging financial information.

We need a deep analysis of his financial dealings because his past has many flashing bright red warning lights. We need to closely examine:

- how our advisaries, and anyone else, can gain leverage over US policy makers

- his methods for gaming the system to pay very little in taxes

- possible money laundering schemes run through businesses with huge losses

Trump told his ex-enforcer Micheal Cohen that Americans are suckers to let folks like him get away with paying low amounts of tax. With the New York Times leak of his taxes, we've seen evidence of how the wealthy can manipulate our tax system.

How many are using Trump type loop-holes to pay small amounts on enormous earnings? Probably lots of folks get away with it. (Why not? They paid for the loop-holes through legislators and lobbyist.)

Trump has always been a duke of the dubious deduction, like father like son. But large, questionable deductions are child's play and the Trumpster plays with the big boys. They play with enormous business losses. I'm sure Trump would say his are "tremendous."

Tremendous losses are the offset to hundreds of millions of taxable Apprentice dollars. For a few years the Donald paid reasonable taxes on the Apprentice income. That was enough for him. Thats for suckers. He dumped his bankrupt casinos in such a way that allowed him to claim a $700 million loss. Then he got the government to repay him the $70 million he paid years before on the Apprentice income.

He also started buying more luxury golf courses. He owns 17 now and loses tens of millions per year on some of them. Losses totaled over $310 million by 2018. Way to go big guy.

Tremendous losses are the time honored, traditional means of laundering dirty money. Trump has been losing money on many of his real estate development and marketing businesses. Much of his Apprentice income was used to cover those losses. And yet he went on a buying binge when he bought the golf courses. Investigators want to know where he got the money to make some of the bigger deals.

As applies to money laundering, are his large deductions and other expenses at the new businesses legitimate or are they used in hidden payments to dirty investors? Thats the way the big boys do it.

Trump is in the tax dog house because of greed or stupidity or both. He took that $700m loss because he supposedly completely walked away from the casino business. But, Trump being Trump, he could not resist also taking 5 percent of the stock from the business that emerged from the ashes of his casino failures. The $70m he got back from government, with interest, is growing closer to $100m.

If you or I pulled this kind of stunt, we'd have to pay it back, but there are different rules for the wealthy. We need financial reform in this country. Things will probably get much worse in a second Trump term.

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That reminds me. 😀

An unreasonably large amount of loan forgiveness is another indicator that something is rotten in Trump world.

That's because Trump's main lender is Deutsche Bank which has heavy ties to the Russians. It's been fined for helping Russian oligarchs in a $20 Billion money laundering scheme.

Since 2010 Trump's debtors have allowed him to walk away from at least $287 million in debt.

They gave him extra time to repay. His biggest lender, Deutsche Bank, even loaned him another $99m so he could get his act together. Fat chance. Trump walked away without repaying $287m of his debt and got to keep his collateral assets.

A couple years later, inspite of Trump's conman history with them, Deutsche Bank loaned Trump an additional $300 million. Once again, the word "rotten" comes to mind.

That $300m is part of the nearly half a billion in loans that come due for Trump in the next 4 years. He doesn't have the cash so if they want their money, he will have to start selling things, and it will probably not be a seller's market for real estate.

Even though the IRS treats loan forgiveness like income, you guessed it, Trump had business losses to zero out the tax bill.

Trump's self-promoted public image is built on lies.

He claims that, to begin his business career, his father loaned him $1 million, which he repaid in full. It's a lie. Tax records show that, throughout his life, Trump's father gave him over $420 million. Gave it to him. There was no repayment.

He is the opposite of a good businessman. Several times, his father had to rescue him from financial ruin. Like the time he illegally bought $3.35 million in gambling chips at Trump's Castle Casino so that Donald could make an important loan payment.

Trump is good at marketing his name and brand, but look at some of the failures:

1. Trump Steaks
2. GoTrump
3. Trump Airlines
4. Trump Vodka
5. Trump Mortgage
6. Trump: The Game
7. Trump Magazine
8. Trump University
9. Trump Ice
10. The New Jersey Generals
11. Tour de Trump
12. Trump Network
13. Trumped!

and the Trump companies that sought bankruptcy protection:

1. Trump Taj Mahal
2. Trump’s Castle
3. Trump Plaza Casinos
4. Trump Plaza Hotel
5. Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts
6. Trump Entertainment Resorts

He is not a good businessman. He learned early from daddy how to cheat the taxman. He's good at that. He's good at cheating contractors as shown by the hundreds of lawsuits against him. Imagine how many didn't have the resourses to sue.

Average Americans are like the contractors. We're not like the banks or the wealthy investors. Trump's campaign promise of a solely middle class tax cut was broken. His promise that the Republican unknown healthcare plan will cover pre-existing conditions is a lie. Trump values the wealthy over the workers.

Are we better off because of

- completely giving in to polluters
- the trade war with China
- helping Russian illegal expansion, ie end sanctions, return to G8
- trying to leave much of the Middle East to Russian influence
- insulting our European allies, threatening to withdraw from NATO
- abandoning the Iranian deal to curb their nuclear ambitions with no renegotiation.
- foolish flattery with the bomb nut in North Korea
- tax cuts, mainly for the wealthy that exploded the federal debt (he promised that he would eliminate the debt in 8 years)
- selfish use of the corporate tax cut, most of the money was not used for investment but for stock buybacks that enrich executives and investors but don't help the economy
- the middle class part of the tax cut expires in a few years
- the trade deficit that continues to grow
- putting subservient syncophants in positions of great power
- lining the benches with judges who rule for corporations
- encouraging the divisions in our country
- the military response to civil rights protests, he could have done the minimum and said "we will have a commission study this."
- the entire virus response, but it is especially destructive to make mask wearing a part of the culture war.

His mask bravado is a decision to spread the virus. Other wingnut world leaders have followed his example. Is the US better off, is the world?

Donald John Trump directly causes people to spread the virus. He will be responsible for the deaths of how many, 1 thousand, 10 thousand, 100 thousand.  

TAKE MY GRANNY, NOT MY FREEDOM.

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Many millions of votes are yet to be counted.

Trump just declared victory.

Is anyone surprized?

He said he has directed his lawyers to stop the counting of votes.

The great majority of those votes are in the possession of election officials in the states, except where it is legal to count votes that are postmarked on or before the election date and arrive late, which includes some Republican states.

The President of the United States has proved once again that he is a liar, conman and thief.

When all votes are counted, Trump might legally win this election but he just cast a huge shadow on any victory. This is right out of the banana republic dictator playbook.

This was predicted. He got his folks to go to the polls and wants to stop counting of mail-ins.

Even if you just consider the votes cast on election day, this election is nowhere near over. A large percentage of votes in high population Democratic precincts have not been counted.

Hopefully, in spite of the "leader," we are still a nation of laws.

TAKE MY GRANNY, NOT MY FREEDOM.

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When Nevada announces their final numbers tomorrow morning,  every major news outlet on the planet (yes, even fox news), will be congratulating Joe Biden and Kamala Harris on their win.

trump will whine about it and threaten litigation but he has lost this election.  And he might end up losing deep south Georgia which would be some wonderful icing on the cake of his misery.  There are still a 5hit-ton of votes left to count there and Biden is not behind by much.

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WOW

This big news just in:

Steve Bannon's attorney has decided that he's had enough of Steve. The attorney wants the court to let him out of the nut house, the wingnut house.

Strategist Steve is one of the main guys, the Guru, who helped put the Donald where he is now (and where they will both be soon.)

Steve is being criminally procecuted for fraud, another word for lying. Imagine that. It appears that Steve stole from the public, maybe a million.

Steve's latest advice to the Orange One concerns United States administration officials who place honesty above loyalty, in this case, Dr. Anthony Fauci and FBI Director Christopher Wray.

"I'd put the heads on pikes. Right. I'd put them at the two corners of the White House as a warning to federal bureaucrats. You either get with the program or you are gone."

and other news that may be of some interest:

BIDEN WINS!

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Is the bad bug gone?
Is the bad man gone?

With an audience,
they're gonna do us.

It'll do no good,
you know if I could,

I'd do a psa,
I'd do it today.

Please wake up, wingnuts!
Enough is enough!

Wingnuts, what does it mean if your media is lying to you?

Pulitzer prize winning reporters are paid to at least try to tell the truth. They should be given a fair amount of credibility against talk show entertainers. I say "entertainers" because thats what they call themselves when taken to court for their lies.

Wingnuts should ask themselves, why are they so susceptible to the victim card? Why are they so easily preyed upon by far right corporate media pied pipers? Every wingnut media show I listen to has an appeal to persecution.

The pipers are expert salespeople in convincing folks of their persecution and that "others" want to destroy them and their way of life. Hey wingnuts, considering your support of Trump, you should at least look at the definition of grandiose narcissism.

It seems like getting-in-the-weeds but its really the core of the right-left debate:

I recently heard an emblematic example of the corporate stooge argument made by media radio's Mark Levin. He spent a segment railing against a capital gains tax. His example was, why would anyone who had a million in cash invest it when they have to pay a tax when they sell out for a profit. His example percentage, 40%, was above what even the richest would have to pay on a windfall, but lets ignore that.

When you crunch the numbers, and consider that the wealthy have skilled investors spreading investments, that million dollars, even though taxed, will almost certainly reap more benefits than buying US treasury bonds.

Levin's other argument is about fairness. The million dollar investor is putting their money at risk. On the tax balance sheet losses reduce taxable income so he must be talking about fairness.

I'm sure lots of folks earned that million dollars of investable cash through their labor, but the vast majority of them inherited it. How does this balance the fairness scale, folks who work for their income are taxed but inheritors are not? Remember that Republicans have reduced the inheritance tax so that there is $0 tax when someone inherits 11 and half million dollars.

So what is fair, your neighbors pay tax on their combined $60,000 work income and inheritors pay $0 on an 11 million dollar gift from dead daddy? What's even worse is that wingnuts want inheritors to pay zero tax on profit from investment of that windfall. (I can understand exceptions for farm or long term businesses, but if they just want to cash out, no.) We don't tax money, we tax transactions.

Another important point is that folks who invest are investing in the future of America. If Republican leaders encourage investors to use their investment dollars to harm Democratic administrations are they harming America for personal gain?

These profiteers believe that they can do these evil things because the ends justify the means. The rich don't get hurt. The poor and middle class get hurt. Although their auguments about the means and the ends keep getting disproven, ie. on tax cuts, there are no lack of gunslingers for the wealthy.

If you're of the class and you want a sure thing, you buy the pliable politicians and the malleable media and Bob's your uncle.

Many folks, including me, thought it was a no-brainer, the congress would pass a reasonable second virus relief bill before the election. Many folks didn't understand the Republican controlled Senate. When the Senate passed the first relief bill the unemployment rate for white men was high. Now, although it is high for everyone else, it is near normal for white men so Republicans veto the relief bill.

What does it mean that BP can take a multi-billion dollar fine and restitution hit and keep on ticking? (Btw, BP, amoung oil companies, is now making the heaviest move into renewables.) Meanwhile, Trump is allowing big oil into the frozen north where accident recovery is near impossible.

Even the newsers at Fox are asking, where's the beef? This factless, evidenceless election media blitz would be pathetic if it weren't so evil.

Wingnuts are suposed to be grounded in reality. According to the polls, should I have to tell them this? There is no magical proof that the American people want another four years of Trump. Global warming is real. Gays should lead an authentic life. Corporations are answerable to reasonable human restraints. (And so on.)

Trump will be lucky to stay out of prison and still half the country want him as their leader. That number will reduce as time marches and jail sentences accumulate.

Here's a trivia question. "This evidence will be shortly forthcoming when the relevant documents are final and available." Who said that? Who cares? I'm sure they were well paid.

The evidence is never forthcoming because it's built on a foundation of lies.

Some of the first words out of Juliani's mouth at the 11/19 presser, "We will present the evidence we've collected" and then for the next 90 minutes they presented zero evidence. There were lots of accusations, lots of sales pitch.

For wingnuts, sales pitch and proof are the same thing, that's why a salesman is in the Whitehouse.

I digress.

TAKE MY GRANNY, NOT MY FREEDOM.

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I’ve tried to understand why 71 million people voted for this con man and continue to follow the anti-fact machine. I’ve stomached their media to understand what am I missing. The only reasonable explanation I’ve come up with is they don’t venture outside of their bubble. You can’t honestly absorb information from both sides and still come away on the side of unfounded conspiracies and misleading information. I can’t speak to the time of 3 channels and the daily newspaper being the only sources of news for people. Whatever they were told though, was fact. They trusted the source. I think if you’re only getting information from one source/side and only converse with people who do the same, then that’s your world.
 

Also, is this just the latest form of keeping us at odds with each other while the rich get richer and more powerful? We seem so divided when we are all pretty much the same overall. We want the same, basic things from life. To be so entrenched in this ideological war when there is so much work to do in the world is just mind-blowing to me.

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