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1 hour ago, Allen said:

Sam Bowie. You pick whichever player you think is better. And again JJJ nor the front office wants him playing Center 

I watched the Sam Bowie mistake live as it happened. He was damaged goods.

JJJ and the FO do want him to play PF at this time. I agree. But you best believe when JV's contract is up or is traded then JJJ will take over at C. It is definitely the longer term plan as he will be the prototype C once he's able to bang more.

Like I said, if Wiseman is that much better than the best wing in this draft then you're correct, no argument from me. But if an Edwards or an RJ prove to be badasses then that's where our opinions will differ.

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On ‎8‎/‎2‎/‎2019 at 8:19 PM, Allen said:

Jaren doesn’t want to play Center and at the top of the draft you take the better player. Fit and team needs shouldn’t  matter. If Wiseman is the better player you pick him and if Edwards is the better player you pick Edwards. This has nothing to do with homerism and Wiseman playing for the home college team. 

Your acting like Wiseman isn’t a top prospect and were in here talking about drafting Joey Dorsey with a top 5 pick 

Can someone point m to a link where Jaren has said he doesn't want to play center? I keep seeing people say this but I have not seen that anywhere from Jaren.

 

And I've seen Wiseman projected as low as 7 in at least 1 mock draft.

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30 minutes ago, KyleB said:

So nobody has a link then?

Jaren is not going to come out and say in public, "I don't want to play Center."

No player except the absolute top 3-5 players would say that, and its debatable if any of those guys would make such a statement in public.

Have a look at Coach Jenkins' comments when asked at his press conference about how he views Jaren, and intends to use him. They were posted in the Athletic. It's been posted on these boards. Have a look at the comments of people around him, like Kevin Garnett. As of right now, they view him as the starting PF, and want him to develop his career there. Not nailed down in the paint under the basket. We just signed someone for the next 4 seasons to do that.

Why are you trying to force Jaren into the C position, and handicap his skills and development? So we can find a spot for Anderson, or other guys like Crowder who won't be on the roster in a year's time? 

The C position is currently covered adequately right now. We need to leave Jaren at PF, and trade the excess combo SF/PF we have on the roster for a specialist SG, and a specialist SF/3&D wingman

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Modern nba centers often aren't "nailed down in the paint under the basket."  Seems a bit like 90s era thinking honestly.  Just saying.

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7 minutes ago, MemphisX said:

Imagine thinking there are limits on what centers can do in a league that has Jokic.

Jaren will be better than Jokic

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I don’t see any reason why Jaren can’t be the best big in the league 

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20 minutes ago, MemphisX said:

Jokic was 4th in MVP voting at 23.  Pretty high standard.

That gives Jaren a 4 year head start

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position less basketball.

5 straight up ballers on the court that can switch on everything, handle the rock , dish, run baseline to baseline on the break and can stroke the three ball.

Throw it up .

lets go .

 

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11 minutes ago, 10SC-2-TOKYO said:

position less basketball.

5 straight up ballers on the court that can switch on everything, handle the rock , dish, run baseline to baseline on the break and can stroke the three ball.

Throw it up .

lets go .

 

I like it!  Let's go!

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On 8/6/2019 at 8:43 PM, 10SC-2-TOKYO said:

position less basketball.

5 straight up ballers on the court that can switch on everything, handle the rock , dish, run baseline to baseline on the break and can stroke the three ball.

Throw it up .

lets go .

 

Where are you going to find such a fivesome? 

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On 8/2/2019 at 9:49 AM, CoolHandGriz said:

Or just save that max money for your future stars and draft Anthony Edwards or RJ Hampton instead of the hometown hero...

Worst idea I've seen. Once Ja and Jaren get paid, it will be much harder to add a max-ish level free agent. You add that high level player now while you have cap space, then go over the cap to sign your own guys.

 

On 8/2/2019 at 9:49 AM, Dwash said:

Jaylen Brown is pretty much out. He will have a green light this year. If he looks good, Boston will match. If he doesnt look that good then we shouldnt pay him.

I think Brown is very much in play, even if he has a good year. Boston already has Kemba and Hayward on max contracts. They are going to have to max out Tatum as well. Do they want four guys on max deals? Maybe they don't care. Maybe they do. Bill Simmons on his podcasts is constantly saying Boston's worst fear is that someone offers Brown the max. They don't want to pay him that but may have no choice except match.

Brown would be my number one target because of his shooting, defense, and the fact he doesn't need the ball to be successful. My number 2 guy would be Hield, although I think there is no way Sacramento doesn't match. In the end, it's Sacramento so maybe they do something dumb. After that I'd target Beasley but not at max dollars. Not a fan of Ingram, but I see the Pelicans paying him anyways due to the trade. I love Levert but can't offer the kind of money he will demand to a person with his injury history. Chase the stars. If you don't get any, use the cap space to collect more assets. Joe Harris the following year would be amazing.

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1 hour ago, chipc3 said:

Where are you going to find such a fivesome? 

right.

I think that instead of pigeonholing players to positions - you let 'em run.

JJJ is not a / does not want to play the 5 ( I still can't locate a quote on this one though)

Is Slo-Mo a 4

Need a winning 2 guard... so on and so on ...

 

Most of these guys are ballers - plain and simple.

If you were to ask 10 random fans the roles of positions 1 - 5 -> you would probably get 11 different answers. 

Can you imagine if die hard bball purists had convinced Magic that he was too big to run point?

Not too long ago Steph's threes were impossible and would get you yanked from a game ... now you have guys practicing that skill at some of the earlier stages of their development.

Same thing with 5s that can step out and stroke a three ball and freeing up the lane - it is happening 

Catch and shoot guys mostly caught and shot because they prolly couldn't dribble the ball without coughing it up.

Lots of super tall guys can nimbly yo-yo the ball from baseline to baseline - NOW

 

So to answer your question - where can we find these guys ?

- is the scouting department hiring ?

I'm sure we have posters here on this board that are already out here scouting for free.

 

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If JJJ doesn't want to be a center and Slo-mo is a 4, where/when does BC get minutes? It would be a shame not to develop BC. Is BC the new undersized backup center, basically Rabb's old spot?

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1 hour ago, lsugrizzfan said:

Worst idea I've seen. Once Ja and Jaren get paid, it will be much harder to add a max-ish level free agent. You add that high level player now while you have cap space, then go over the cap to sign your own guys.

 

I think Brown is very much in play, even if he has a good year. Boston already has Kemba and Hayward on max contracts. They are going to have to max out Tatum as well. Do they want four guys on max deals? Maybe they don't care. Maybe they do. Bill Simmons on his podcasts is constantly saying Boston's worst fear is that someone offers Brown the max. They don't want to pay him that but may have no choice except match.

Brown would be my number one target because of his shooting, defense, and the fact he doesn't need the ball to be successful. My number 2 guy would be Hield, although I think there is no way Sacramento doesn't match. In the end, it's Sacramento so maybe they do something dumb. After that I'd target Beasley but not at max dollars. Not a fan of Ingram, but I see the Pelicans paying him anyways due to the trade. I love Levert but can't offer the kind of money he will demand to a person with his injury history. Chase the stars. If you don't get any, use the cap space to collect more assets. Joe Harris the following year would be amazing.

Hayward falls off when its time to pay Tatum. I think 3 max guys is reasonable.

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11 minutes ago, KyleB said:

If JJJ doesn't want to be a center and Slo-mo is a 4, where/when does BC get minutes? It would be a shame not to develop BC. Is BC the new undersized backup center, basically Rabb's old spot?

Ahead of SLO-mo. He’s not part of the future. 

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4 hours ago, KyleB said:

If JJJ doesn't want to be a center and Slo-mo is a 4, where/when does BC get minutes? It would be a shame not to develop BC. Is BC the new undersized backup center, basically Rabb's old spot?

Question -> have you seen it quoted anywhere other than posts on this board that 13 doesn't want to be a 5?

I have seen it repeated time and time again here - but no where provides a direct quote.

I saw reports of him working with KG ... a scrawny , quick, long -ANGRY - all-star.

Nothing saying anyhtring about his preference of position...

(not going at you at all - I just noticed that you and I used the word IF )

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15 hours ago, Dwash said:

Hayward falls off when its time to pay Tatum. I think 3 max guys is reasonable.

I still say you make them match. One, it ties up their cap space. Two, the more teams that pay the luxury tax, the more money Memphis gets in the payout. I never understood why teams won't make an offer just because they know it will be matched. Then when no one makes offer, the original team gets a discount. Make them match. Make them pay.

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11 hours ago, 10SC-2-TOKYO said:

Question -> have you seen it quoted anywhere other than posts on this board that 13 doesn't want to be a 5?

I have seen it repeated time and time again here - but no where provides a direct quote.

I saw reports of him working with KG ... a scrawny , quick, long -ANGRY - all-star.

Nothing saying anyhtring about his preference of position...

(not going at you at all - I just noticed that you and I used the word IF )

I'll see what i can find  there is no direct quote from Jaren's camp on it.  But the media guys have been saying it all summer that he wants to play the 4.   I have heard Vernon, Wallace, Sain, and Edmiston state it on the radio.  

Plus they gave Jonas decent money to be the starting center for 3 years and Jaren was outwardly recruiting him.    If Jaren wanted to be a 5 then technically he should be transitioning to that this season.    You didn't hear Bagley trying to convince Cauley-Stein to stay.    Guys that want to play a particular position don't usually campaign to sign guys who play the same position. 

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I'd prefer Jaren to continue to play PF. At PF, he has good size. At C, he's undersized. Despite the changes in the league, when everything else is equal, size still matters. So my preference for him going forward is primarily a PF who can fill in at C in a pinch.

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20 hours ago, lsugrizzfan said:

Worst idea I've seen. Once Ja and Jaren get paid, it will be much harder to add a max-ish level free agent. You add that high level player now while you have cap space, then go over the cap to sign your own guys.

So draft another big man and overpay for an above average wing instead of just drafting a wing with incredible upside? Yeah that makes sense...

Save that max money that you're overpaying and use it on good restricted free agents like a Malik Beasley or Chris Lavert. This is much  more fiscally responsible when building a young team. Can add more quality pieces this way as well.

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1 hour ago, CoolHandGriz said:

So draft another big man and overpay for an above average wing instead of just drafting a wing with incredible upside? Yeah that makes sense...

Save that max money that you're overpaying and use it on good restricted free agents like a Malik Beasley or Chris Lavert. This is much  more fiscally responsible when building a young team. Can add more quality pieces this way as well.

Neither LaVert not Beasley will come cheap.  In order to sign a restricted free agent you almost always have to overpay. Much more fiscally responsible to Target unrestricted.

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