Rdk4121

Grizzlies 2019-20 Rotation Predictions

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I thought since we have a pretty good idea of who the main players on the team will be, we can do some predictions on the rotations. 

PG - Ja (31) Tyus (17)
SG - Dillon (22) Josh (12) Grayson (12) Tyus (2)
SF - Jae (24) Josh (9) Kyle (12) Dillon (3)
PF - Jaren (18) Brandon (18) Bruno (10) Kyle (2)
C - JV (29) Jaren (14) Bruno (5)

Total MPG
Jaren - 32
Ja - 31
JV - 29
Dillon - 25
Jae - 24

Josh - 21
Tyus - 19
Brandon - 18
Bruno - 15
Kyle - 14
Grayson - 12

I will say I don't expect to go 11 deep, I assume we'll have games where Kyle or grayson don't play at all or very sparingly. I penciled Dillon in as the starting SG, but if he can't do that that could free up more time for Josh or grayson, or it could mean Josh spends most of his time at SG and gives Kyle more minutes at SF. I also just said Bruno would play small ball C instead of Miles or Howard playing. 

This is just a guess and subject to change obviously. Let me know what you think. 

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33 minutes ago, Lugan Village said:

JV minutes look a little high, maybe closer to 26...

He played 27.7 last year for us, so somewhere around there. 

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From all the talk and indications from the FO,  Jaren, and his camp, I'd be very surprised if nearly half his PT is spent @ 5, they've all indicated they want Jaren playing @ 4. He can't develop his ball handling skills and perimeter play if he is stuck at C

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2 hours ago, The Stro Show said:

Kyle played 30 minutes a night for us last season. I see him still getting around there, maybe 25ish.

I like Kyle but don’t know if he’s going to be as good a fit in this new offense that emphasizes more 3 pt shooting. His minutes could get cut as a result. 

Maybe he can thrive as a secondary ball handler that drives and kicks while playing good D.

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2 hours ago, The Stro Show said:

Kyle played 30 minutes a night for us last season. I see him still getting around there, maybe 25ish.

He was essentially the only SF though for good while with Parsons and Dillon injured. We have a lot more options this year at SF including Dillon, Jae, and Josh. 

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16 minutes ago, BigHunkALove said:

From all the talk and indications from the FO,  Jaren, and his camp, I'd be very surprised if nearly half his PT is spent @ 5, they've all indicated they want Jaren playing @ 4. He can't develop his ball handling skills and perimeter play if he is stuck at C

It might not be his choice. We don't have a whole lot of options there. When he plays with Clarke, he'll still be playing the 4 on offense while Clarke plays more of the 5.

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1 hour ago, Rdk4121 said:

It might not be his choice. We don't have a whole lot of options there. When he plays with Clarke, he'll still be playing the 4 on offense while Clarke plays more of the 5.

Yeah, and then there is Bruno who can play at C for minor minutes, plus Plumlee, Howard (if he still on the roster), and Rabb (ditto).

We will be keeping at least one of Plumlee, Howard, Rabb to at least Dec, maybe until Feb, I don't see a combo of these guys getting zero mins during that time

I don't see Jaren getting more than 6 mpg at C, he will be playing the majority of mins at PF

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I got jae and Kyle splitting minutes at the 3.

The main problem with that is that Jae Crowder plays better at the 4 .

 

We have way to many players who should be playing the 4 and Jaren who will most likely get alot of those minutes.

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1 hour ago, costarica2 said:

I got jae and Kyle splitting minutes at the 3.

The main problem with that is that Jae Crowder plays better at the 4 .

 

We have way to many players who should be playing the 4 and Jaren who will most likely get alot of those minutes.

I think Jae is fine at 3, he played mainly the 3 the last couple years in Utah. I don't think he could really be a 2 guard though at all. 

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https://theathletic.com/1087741/2019/07/25/projecting-the-grizzlies-2019-20-depth-chart-and-rotation-after-a-wild-summer/

Decent read, but I'll only post the rotation chart he made. You can check out his reasoning in the article. He doesn't think Josh will factor in too much, and thinks Kyle plays most of his time at PF, and jaren plays most of his time at center. 

 

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7 hours ago, Rdk4121 said:

https://theathletic.com/1087741/2019/07/25/projecting-the-grizzlies-2019-20-depth-chart-and-rotation-after-a-wild-summer/

Decent read, but I'll only post the rotation chart he made. You can check out his reasoning in the article. He doesn't think Josh will factor in too much, and thinks Kyle plays most of his time at PF, and jaren plays most of his time at center. 

 

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At the beginning of the season I see Dillon, SlowMo, Allen and JV playing less and allowing Josh to get some playing time, also he might start in Dillon place. If Iggy and Dwight stays they might get some playing early, but I dont expect them to stay, and I would love if Noah stays too, I prefer him than Dwight.

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On 7/26/2019 at 12:12 PM, nwagrizzfan said:

the just released rating for NBA2K20 agrees with your projections

 

https://www.2kratings.com/nba2k20-team/memphis-grizzlies

I wish they could just tell us Clarkes. Gotta be a 70-72 range

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After watching 4 preseason games i think it sorts out this way Opening night:

PG:Ja, Tyus

SG:Grayson, Dillon

SF:Jae, Marko

PF:Jaren, Kyle

C :Jonas, Brandon

 

Yes Dillon had a 30pt game but that may be more of a curse than a blessing if his goal is to be starter.   His 30pt, 0ast and 0 reb performance is a much better match for a scoring starved second unit.        Dillon has lowkey kinda been a blackhole.   Whenever he caught the ball he has gone back up with it.   I don't really want him taking shots from Jaren, Jonas, and Ja.     Grayson may be a better for now because he can pass the ball and spot up shoot.   

Stacking everyone that can score in the first unit may not be the smart move.   Putting Dillon on second unit means his blackhole tendencies won't be as big of a problem. 

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I see the opening night roster as this:

PG: Ja, Tyus, Melton

SG: Brooks, Allen, Jackson

SF: Jae, Kyle, Marco, Iguodala

PF: Jackson, Brandon

C : Jonas, Bruno, Rabb

The real battles to watch will be the wings. Marko, Kyle and Jae at SF is very fluid right now. If Jackson returns he could see minutes here as well. Allen and Brooks is a toss up to me. Brooks is the better scorer. Allen is the better all around player. Neither is the answer today at SG however. 

when Melton is activated, Marco will likely be playing with the Hustle to keep him active and gaining experience. 

Hill and Plumlee seem to be the odd men out. If Hill is released, and with Jackson and Melton coming back soon that could happen, then I hope the team keeps Rabb over Plumlee. Rabb is younger and performing better. The Grizzlies need to take the salary hits with Hill and Plumlee because neither player has the potential to be part of the future with the team.

Rabb is unlikely a part of the future but he’s much younger and is outperforming both in pre-season games. 

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2 hours ago, chipc3 said:

Brooks is the better scorer. Allen is the better all around player. Neither is the answer today at SG however

I had to bold and underline that part because that is the ultimate truth.   

I really hope either Jackson or Melton can take ownership of number one wing role for this season.    I like Marko's offensive game BUT i need him to show as lethal from long range.  Currently Dillon and Grayson appear to be more consistent from deep.    If Marko's shooting doesn't come around then that was a wasted roster spot for a team that has a roster crunch. 

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5 minutes ago, GrizzTigerFan said:

I had to bold and underline that part because that is the ultimate truth.   

I really hope either Jackson or Melton can take ownership of number one wing role for this season.    I like Marko's offensive game BUT i need him to show as lethal from long range.  Currently Dillon and Grayson appear to be more consistent from deep.    If Marko's shooting doesn't come around then that was a wasted roster spot for a team that has a roster crunch. 

Oh no. We are agreeing again. That is never a good sign. 

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On 7/28/2019 at 12:31 PM, Rdk4121 said:

https://theathletic.com/1087741/2019/07/25/projecting-the-grizzlies-2019-20-depth-chart-and-rotation-after-a-wild-summer/

Decent read, but I'll only post the rotation chart he made. You can check out his reasoning in the article. He doesn't think Josh will factor in too much, and thinks Kyle plays most of his time at PF, and jaren plays most of his time at center. 

 

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One thing that I am - not out and out worried about yet - but does bear watching is 13's fouls.

Has someone done a breakdown of player effectiveness IF/WHEN a player  is not on the floor during crunch time (due to foul trouble) ?

IF he is projected to be on the floor for 31 mins (as above) , how do things change with foul trouble?

I could see smart teams actively baiting him into fouling out. 

I still don't think its too late yet but somebody really needs to be working with our guy teaching him a couple of things.

1. You do NOT have to try to block everything. Gotta be aware of game situations. 

2. Footwork footwork footwork. Positioning is key when trying to play effective defense. (see Shane Battier)

  When you can move your feet and get to the places the opposing player wants to go :

1 . As they prepare to go at you - you have the footwork to shuffle into position to challenge a shot or herd the player into help defenders

2.  As he gains experience , he will learn to get there BEFORE they get there -  won't have to reach so much ( inviting refs to ring you up) 

Mainly if you get to be known as a walking foul - any 50 / 50 situations will go against you off top. 

Cannot afford to make the refs job easy ... rookie season - calls are not going to go your way. Fact of life. Understood. 

As a second year player , I thought the refs would be a little more lenient with the calls ... definitely NOT SO as evidenced by this year's pre-season. 

Yes I know that refs generally call things tight in the pre-season to set the tone for the real season BUT still ... gotta clean that up yourself. 

13 is one of the guys that I definitely consider a CORE piece. We need those pieces to be on the court.

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