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Grizzlies FO learning from Kawhi and new NBA realities

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Welcome to the new NBA...and the beginning of HUGE issues for the CBA in 2023.  There is no doubt Player loyalties are to themselves and not the organization or their fans.  My wake up call was how Demar got played by Masai for a one year shot for Kawhi - it turned out with a championship, so how can you argue its success.  Doesn't matter that Demar was the Raptor, he loved the city, the organization and the fans.  Demar is no Kawhi, but an All Star.  Kawhi this summer showed how the NBA is now controlled by the star players, organizing trades, who they want to play with and the money is so HUGE that he didn't appear to blink by leaving money on the table by not re-signing with Toronto for 2 years.  The owners can thank Adam Silver in 2019 for not having the "balls" to better manage the "collusion" that is going on with "star" players.  Owners will ensure these opportunities and player controls are dramatically reduced in next round of negotiations.

Learning's for our front office and every FO?  Play their game?...accept/recognize that none of our young picks and future star players are here for their entire career.  BUT, it doesn't mean we can't be competitive and compete in the playoffs, just no sure yet how in a small market.  Rebuild yes, but with the purpose of building some assets that give you negotiating power with players...we likely need two star players surrounded by quality support players and bench depth...can we attract those two all star studs to our organization...

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We already have the two All Star studs

the nba has always been like this though 

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15 minutes ago, Allen said:

We already have the two All Star studs

the nba has always been like this though 

Dwight and iggy? 

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Kawhi has a Finals MVP from a Spurs title.

Kawhi has a Finals MVP from a Raptors title.

Pour one out for the champs????

The Brave New NBA is showing that "windows" are like 3 or years long -- MAX.  Broken Windows are the new reality.  

If this thing gets ugly after the CBA ends in 2023 then that would SUCK for young teams who project to be starting their peak then....

Oh wait....

Although maybe we can still pull off the 2023, 2026, and 2027 "Threepeat".

 

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10 hours ago, Lugan Village said:

Welcome to the new NBA...and the beginning of HUGE issues for the CBA in 2023.  There is no doubt Player loyalties are to themselves and not the organization or their fans.  My wake up call was how Demar got played by Masai for a one year shot for Kawhi - it turned out with a championship, so how can you argue its success.  Doesn't matter that Demar was the Raptor, he loved the city, the organization and the fans.  Demar is no Kawhi, but an All Star.  Kawhi this summer showed how the NBA is now controlled by the star players, organizing trades, who they want to play with and the money is so HUGE that he didn't appear to blink by leaving money on the table by not re-signing with Toronto for 2 years.  The owners can thank Adam Silver in 2019 for not having the "balls" to better manage the "collusion" that is going on with "star" players.  Owners will ensure these opportunities and player controls are dramatically reduced in next round of negotiations.

Learning's for our front office and every FO?  Play their game?...accept/recognize that none of our young picks and future star players are here for their entire career.  BUT, it doesn't mean we can't be competitive and compete in the playoffs, just no sure yet how in a small market.  Rebuild yes, but with the purpose of building some assets that give you negotiating power with players...we likely need two star players surrounded by quality support players and bench depth...can we attract those two all star studs to our organization...

 

The NBA gets stupider every year it seems. Championships are all based on which diva wants to be BFFs with which premadona in a given year. I just feel soooo attached to these guys; they're really just like us.

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The reality is still that for the Grizzlies to retain or attract top players, they will need to overpay.

This FO has done a great job acquiring draft picks, but at some point, they will need to retain a coveted player and probably need to acquire a free agent (in the future, not now)

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16 minutes ago, Grizzled Vet said:

The reality is still that for the Grizzlies to retain or attract top players, they will need to overpay.

This FO has done a great job acquiring draft picks, but at some point, they will need to retain a coveted player and probably need to acquire a free agent (in the future, not now)

Ja and Jaren seem like guys that top free agent player types wanna play with.

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3 minutes ago, ALT GRIND said:

Ja and Jaren seem like guys that top free agent player types wanna play with.

 

Right now they do, but at some point, top free agents will still want to go to competitive organizations.

If the team is winning less than 38 games in a few years, it won't matter how nice they were.  It just means that Memphis was considered, but another team was chosen.

I believe, if healthy, they can work their way up there in 3-5 years, but not this year or next.  It is still a man's league.  And knock on wood regarding their health.

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9 hours ago, Grizzled Vet said:

 

Right now they do, but at some point, top free agents will still want to go to competitive organizations.

If the team is winning less than 38 games in a few years, it won't matter how nice they were.  It just means that Memphis was considered, but another team was chosen.

I believe, if healthy, they can work their way up there in 3-5 years, but not this year or next.  It is still a man's league.  And knock on wood regarding their health.

 

9 hours ago, ALT GRIND said:

Ja and Jaren seem like guys that top free agent player types wanna play with.

In regards to Ja and Jaren being able to recruit - I think that is true of all Top players in modern NBA.   The AAU culture allowed young Star players to actually develop friendships at an early age.    Grayson Allen mentioned in an interview that he already knew Jaren from back in AAU.   Ja knew Zion from AAU.    This young guys are already plotting on teaming up.    

The key is,like you said GrizzledVet, the orgs they play for need to be smart and competitive so they will want to team up there.    I have no doubt Ja and Jaren will be able to attract the younger generation FA's.    Question is will Memphis be the org that the team-up happens at.     Hopefully FO is laying the groundwork for that now.     Having top flight, facilities, training and medical staff goes along with that bigtime too.  

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On 7/11/2019 at 10:11 AM, GrizzTigerFan said:

 

In regards to Ja and Jaren being able to recruit - I think that is true of all Top players in modern NBA.   The AAU culture allowed young Star players to actually develop friendships at an early age.    Grayson Allen mentioned in an interview that he already knew Jaren from back in AAU.   Ja knew Zion from AAU.    This young guys are already plotting on teaming up.    

The key is,like you said GrizzledVet, the orgs they play for need to be smart and competitive so they will want to team up there.    I have no doubt Ja and Jaren will be able to attract the younger generation FA's.    Question is will Memphis be the org that the team-up happens at.     Hopefully FO is laying the groundwork for that now.     Having top flight, facilities, training and medical staff goes along with that bigtime too.  

The Raptors became a model franchise, they did most everything right....drafted really well, built their 905 team for depth, got a world class GM, they have ownership strength who need content for their channels, fired the coach of the year and replaced him with a rookie who coached had a championship year, and fans who sell out every game, charge  premium and had 2.5 million line the streets for the parade....how does Memphis match that to compete, would these owners commit to $400M for two players in FA?  Is that a viable business model in Memphis?  Same in Golden State...I dpnt know the depth of pockets with our owners, can anyone share their net worth?

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this team the grizzlies if  they can stay together with all those picks coming our way should  have a special teams in about 3/4 years

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I,m rooting for them because at 55 years old time is going by FAST 

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