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24 minutes ago, fanboyslim said:

To be fair, it’s easier to fill roster holes in free agency when you already have 2-3 major pieces on rookie scale contracts with the team. Ja/BC/JJJ plus Jonas, a high lottery pick and lots of cap space is not a bad place to be.

Thats what Im saying. Free agency can work for anyone when trying to fill holes. If fails for small markets when trying to hit home runs.

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2 hours ago, fanboyslim said:

To be fair, it’s easier to fill roster holes in free agency when you already have 2-3 major pieces on rookie scale contracts with the team. Ja/BC/JJJ plus Jonas, a high lottery pick and lots of cap space is not a bad place to be.

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What's more, just like what happened after Zion joined the Pelicans, it suddenly makes the Grizzlies a team a vet wants to join rather than having to be overpaid to come here. 

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4 hours ago, fanboyslim said:

To be fair, it’s easier to fill roster holes in free agency when you already have 2-3 major pieces on rookie scale contracts with the team. Ja/BC/JJJ plus Jonas, a high lottery pick and lots of cap space is not a bad place to be.

Yeah, with a core like that we only have to sign shooting specialists and utility players mostly.  Those guys aren't as hard to find/sign as legit core guys.  

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I think Dallas is our best trading partner.  They have their superstar, a second option in KP (who I think is a ticking time bomb but whatever), and since their solid start looks to be ahead of schedule.  Without many picks going forward I think they are pretty much in "try to make the playoffs" mode.

We can send them two veteran wings in Iggy and Solomon Hill (both expiring contracts), along with Grayson Allen, for the contract known as Tim Hardaway, Jr., the expiring contract known as Courtney Lee, along with Jalen Brunson plus cash considerations and TWO future 2nd round pick.

This allows us to shake things up on the wing, AND get a solid young player out of the deal in Jalen Brunson.  That we ALREADY have Tyus Jones?  Oh well.... the cash considerations and TWO future 2nd rounders should help.  

link:  http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y2r6lg94

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17 hours ago, ALT GRIND said:

I think Dallas is our best trading partner.  They have their superstar, a second option in KP (who I think is a ticking time bomb but whatever), and since their solid start looks to be ahead of schedule.  Without many picks going forward I think they are pretty much in "try to make the playoffs" mode.

We can send them two veteran wings in Iggy and Solomon Hill (both expiring contracts), along with Grayson Allen, for the contract known as Tim Hardaway, Jr., the expiring contract known as Courtney Lee, along with Jalen Brunson plus cash considerations and TWO future 2nd round pick.

This allows us to shake things up on the wing, AND get a solid young player out of the deal in Jalen Brunson.  That we ALREADY have Tyus Jones?  Oh well.... the cash considerations and TWO future 2nd rounders should help.  

link:  http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y2r6lg94

Please no. 

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If we're firing up the trade machine then Portland is a good partner. 

 

Iggy+Crowder for Bazemore plus whichever one of their cheap young guys we can agree on works. They really need a 4 with Collins out and a wing defender so it could work for both sides as long as they give up a 1st.

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55 minutes ago, UkGrizz said:

If we're firing up the trade machine then Portland is a good partner. 

 

Iggy+Crowder for Bazemore plus whichever one of their cheap young guys we can agree on works. They really need a 4 with Collins out and a wing defender so it could work for both sides as long as they give up a 1st.

I heard they going after Gallo would that package, but if they strike out, thats a good deal.

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13 hours ago, Dwash said:

I heard they going after Gallo would that package, but if they strike out, thats a good deal.

If they strike out on Gallo I think Portland is real option an expiring Bazemore and 1st round pick I would definitely do for Crowder and Iggy. 

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On 11/6/2019 at 1:50 PM, ALT GRIND said:

I think Dallas is our best trading partner.  They have their superstar, a second option in KP (who I think is a ticking time bomb but whatever), and since their solid start looks to be ahead of schedule.  Without many picks going forward I think they are pretty much in "try to make the playoffs" mode.

We can send them two veteran wings in Iggy and Solomon Hill (both expiring contracts), along with Grayson Allen, for the contract known as Tim Hardaway, Jr., the expiring contract known as Courtney Lee, along with Jalen Brunson plus cash considerations and TWO future 2nd round pick.

This allows us to shake things up on the wing, AND get a solid young player out of the deal in Jalen Brunson.  That we ALREADY have Tyus Jones?  Oh well.... the cash considerations and TWO future 2nd rounders should help.  

link:  http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y2r6lg94

this is truly horrific trade

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On 11/6/2019 at 3:50 PM, ALT GRIND said:

I think Dallas is our best trading partner.  They have their superstar, a second option in KP (who I think is a ticking time bomb but whatever), and since their solid start looks to be ahead of schedule.  Without many picks going forward I think they are pretty much in "try to make the playoffs" mode.

We can send them two veteran wings in Iggy and Solomon Hill (both expiring contracts), along with Grayson Allen, for the contract known as Tim Hardaway, Jr., the expiring contract known as Courtney Lee, along with Jalen Brunson plus cash considerations and TWO future 2nd round pick.

This allows us to shake things up on the wing, AND get a solid young player out of the deal in Jalen Brunson.  That we ALREADY have Tyus Jones?  Oh well.... the cash considerations and TWO future 2nd rounders should help.  

link:  http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y2r6lg94

That sounds like a horrible idea 

stick to the draft analysis my friend in no way should we be trading for 20 mil dollar contract of Tim Hardaway Jr 

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Some NBA executives reportedly feel Andre Iguodala is a lock to join Lakers if he’s bought out

https://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2019/11/7/20954464/lakers-rumors-andre-iguodala-buyout-free-agency-nba-executives-athletic-david-aldridge

I know, it is a horrible thing to do...but if we can't trade him....can we just keep him past March 1st...so he could not sign with the Fakers? 

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29 minutes ago, I❤️JV said:

Some NBA executives reportedly feel Andre Iguodala is a lock to join Lakers if he’s bought out

https://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2019/11/7/20954464/lakers-rumors-andre-iguodala-buyout-free-agency-nba-executives-athletic-david-aldridge

I know, it is a horrible thing to do...but if we can't trade him....can we just keep him past March 1st...so he could not sign with the Fakers? 

I'm sure he is a lock to join the Lakers if he gets bought out.

The problem here is if no one wants to pay to acquire his talents because everyone knows he only wants to play for the Lakers and there is no incentive on the Grizzlies part to buy him out prior to the trade deadline or even afterwards, how much will Andre come off his contract to be allowed to join the Lakers?

Right now he is saying he won't come off anything and that is his right. He signed a guaranteed deal and whoever has his rights has to pay him. That doesn't mean they have to pay him and give him the option to play for another team however. He doesn't have that right and he is offering the Grizzlies no reason to do what he wants. There is a middle ground that will likely be reached between the trade deadline and March 1st. I hope it doesn't come down to that but if it does it will be interesting to see which side blinks first. 

Regardless, both sides will claim victory and defeat. They will say they gave up more than they wanted but are happy it is concluded.  

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8 minutes ago, chipc3 said:

I'm sure he is a lock to join the Lakers if he gets bought out.

The problem here is if no one wants to pay to acquire his talents because everyone knows he only wants to play for the Lakers and there is no incentive on the Grizzlies part to buy him out prior to the trade deadline or even afterwards, how much will Andre come off his contract to be allowed to join the Lakers?

Right now he is saying he won't come off anything and that is his right. He signed a guaranteed deal and whoever has his rights has to pay him. That doesn't mean they have to pay him and give him the option to play for another team however. He doesn't have that right and he is offering the Grizzlies no reason to do what he wants. There is a middle ground that will likely be reached between the trade deadline and March 1st. I hope it doesn't come down to that but if it does it will be interesting to see which side blinks first. 

Regardless, both sides will claim victory and defeat. They will say they gave up more than they wanted but are happy it is concluded.  

Yes i agree with everything you just posted. Even if i did not agreed, i am in no position to bet real money with you as i have children to feed. IMO we can trade him unless he stone cold refuses to play for a team of our choice. He might be sending signals to other teams DO NOT TRADE FOR ME....If this is the case ...(and i know this is bad look for our FO)...i would just expire him without a buyout. If we do this, we will be:

A FO Not friendly to the players

B Do not F*** with us FO.

My question is are we Do not F*** with us FO?...i guess we will find out.

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1 minute ago, I❤️JV said:

Yes i agree with everything you just posted. Even if i did not agreed, i am in no position to bet real money with you as i have children to feed. IMO we can trade him unless he stone cold refuses to play for a team of our choice. He might be sending signals to other teams DO NOT TRADE FOR ME....If this is the case ...(and i know this is bad look for our FO)...i would just expire him without a buyout. If we do this, we will be:

A FO Not friendly to the players

B Do not F*** with us FO.

My question is are we Do not F*** with us FO?...i guess we will find out.

I doubt it will go that far. Andre wants to play basketball. He doesn't want his career to end with a season sitting on the sidelines. He is playing poker with our front office. Eventually he will either be traded (not likely but possible) or he will accept a reduced salary to sign with the Lakers. I really don't see a scenario where he sits the entire season just to collect his full salary. 

Of course I have been wrong in the past...

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If he is doing anything at all that hinders the Grizzlies from dealing him to other teams, and he is refusing to give back salary, then just go ahead and waive him....on March 2nd.

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It's funny to read people's attitudes today. It wasn't that long ago people were railing against me for not understanding how things are done when I suggested basically the exact same situation as people are advocating now. 

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7 hours ago, Grizzled Vet said:

If he is doing anything at all that hinders the Grizzlies from dealing him to other teams, and he is refusing to give back salary, then just go ahead and waive him....on March 2nd.

Co-sign.....

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On 11/8/2019 at 10:37 AM, Grizzled Vet said:

If he is doing anything at all that hinders the Grizzlies from dealing him to other teams, and he is refusing to give back salary, then just go ahead and waive him....on March 2nd.

I like it!!!  Spoiled jerk.

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Crazy thing is if Iggy was engaged and playing instead of Crowder we would probably be .500%.      Iggy is a better player than Crowder and offers way more playmaking and better perimeter defense.  

Related Note: its pretty cool that the players actively playing has made Iggy more of an afterthought.  

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On 11/7/2019 at 12:50 PM, UkGrizz said:

If we're firing up the trade machine then Portland is a good partner. 

 

Iggy+Crowder for Bazemore plus whichever one of their cheap young guys we can agree on works. They really need a 4 with Collins out and a wing defender so it could work for both sides as long as they give up a 1st.

If we get Little and a 1st Im all for it, Blazers might be a great team to trade with.

 

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2 minutes ago, russian grizzly said:

Any team, which is able to give us a first-round pick for any combination of players beyond our Core-3, should be automatically named as a good trading partner. As simple as that. 

The Mavs have some contracts to flip, could use Iggy at forward and are looking to make a playoff push BUT they are short on draft picks going forward.

If we shop Crowder I think the Celtics would be a good trading partner.  He gives them help at both forward spots (helps since Hayward is hurt), AND they have a lot of picks/good players on rookie contracts.

... at this point I am not expecting more than 2 second round picks and mediocre contracts (plus maybe ONE interesting young player) for Iggy.  Just not that many teams who need him AND want to pay $17 million for him.

I think Jae Crowder has more trade value, at least given his reasonable contract.

 

 

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2 hours ago, ALT GRIND said:

The Mavs have some contracts to flip, could use Iggy at forward and are looking to make a playoff push BUT they are short on draft picks going forward.

If we shop Crowder I think the Celtics would be a good trading partner.  He gives them help at both forward spots (helps since Hayward is hurt), AND they have a lot of picks/good players on rookie contracts.

... at this point I am not expecting more than 2 second round picks and mediocre contracts (plus maybe ONE interesting young player) for Iggy.  Just not that many teams who need him AND want to pay $17 million for him.

I think Jae Crowder has more trade value, at least given his reasonable contract.

 

 

Crowder for second-round picks? No. 

Dealing with Boston? No. 

Dealing with any team with no a 1st round in possession? No. 

As simple as that. We are in an extremely good negotiation position. No rush, no desperation. We just need to wait for the right opportunity. I trust Zach like no one else. Let him do his job.  See first what happen after December 15.

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https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2862394-1-player-every-nba-team-should-already-be-targeting-for-a-trade#slide1

 

The most intriguing name in the trade market might be Andre Iguodala. While there was some speculation about a buyout when the Memphis Grizzlies acquired him in July, they've since angled toward getting some compensation for the 2015 Finals MVP.

 

They mention the 'usual suspects':   Lakers, Clippers, Nuggets, Mavericks, Rockets but throw in Jazz too. 

 IMHO Denver has the assets to get it done if they so choose. 

 

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2 hours ago, GrizzTigerFan said:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2862394-1-player-every-nba-team-should-already-be-targeting-for-a-trade#slide1

 

The most intriguing name in the trade market might be Andre Iguodala. While there was some speculation about a buyout when the Memphis Grizzlies acquired him in July, they've since angled toward getting some compensation for the 2015 Finals MVP.

 

They mention the 'usual suspects':   Lakers, Clippers, Nuggets, Mavericks, Rockets but throw in Jazz too. 

 IMHO Denver has the assets to get it done if they so choose. 

 

Honestly, if Denver just gives us Plumlee and Beasley, we have deal. Beasley has almost completely fallen out of the rotation anyway, and Plumlee has way less of a role than he did last year, plus there should be a decent enough backup center out there anyway (Noah). 

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