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1st piece to puzzle resolved...D Wright

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1 minute ago, ACGrizz said:

This was expected - wonder if any team will give him anything north of $9m/year. 

I'd be absolutely, 100% ok giving him 3/30m. He's going to be good. It's not easy getting backup PGs, and it's (IMO) the most important backup position you can have (by a lot). Let's learn from too many years of Mike never having a guy to back him up and give Delon what it takes to keep him here.

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39 minutes ago, srmjr23 said:

I'd be absolutely, 100% ok giving him 3/30m. He's going to be good. It's not easy getting backup PGs, and it's (IMO) the most important backup position you can have (by a lot). Let's learn from too many years of Mike never having a guy to back him up and give Delon what it takes to keep him here.

Exactly Mike suffer early on with awful backups but had a career year playing off the ball alot more.

Could do wonders for a rookie PG like Morant. 

Jevon would be an awful backup.

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The puzzle isn't resolved as it isn't guaranteed he will return here until he signs.

It just means that the Grizzlies will match other offers or that other teams have to overpay to get him as a FA.

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4 minutes ago, Grizzled Vet said:

The puzzle isn't resolved as it isn't guaranteed he will return here until he signs.

It just means that the Grizzlies will match other offers or that other teams have to overpay to get him as a FA.

Truth, but its a start.

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50 minutes ago, ACGrizz said:

This was expected - wonder if any team will give him anything north of $9m/year. 

Yeah a team like PHX 

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38 minutes ago, Grizzled Vet said:

 

Kings also have plenty of cap space.

Think they’ll use it on their front court instead of throwing money at Wright though. 

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1 hour ago, IdrinkGuinness said:

Yeah a team like PHX 

PHX is the only team I see stealing him from us.

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Just now, Ja_Rules said:

PHX is the only team I see stealing him from us.

Yeah and the last team we want to get in a bidding war with 

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53 minutes ago, ACGrizz said:

Think they’ll use it on their front court instead of throwing money at Wright though. 

 

Kings were my #1 threat to go after JV. 

Especially now that WCS said he wanted out of Sacramento.

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2 hours ago, costarica2 said:

Exactly Mike suffer early on with awful backups but had a career year playing off the ball alot more.

Could do wonders for a rookie PG like Morant. 

Jevon would be an awful backup.

Jevon is a 3rd stringer. Maybe forever. And I actually like him.

Excited to see our Ja/Delon backcourt!

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37 minutes ago, Grizzled Vet said:

 

Kings were my #1 threat to go after JV. 

Especially now that WCS said he wanted out of Sacramento.

Id take à flier on WCS if we could do a s&t.

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Why have people already giving up on Carter after 1 year?

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I have no clue what Wright will get offered in FA but I think we may be safe with this QO. The only downside is this summer is second only to 2016 as far as the total amount of.money available to spend on FAs so he may get a big deal but wouldn't be surprised if he didn't get the MLE. He's 27 y/o and a career backup. Nothing stands out on his resume. I can't see him being on many teams radar. I think we're safe but the amount of money teams could spend could lead to irrational exuberance.

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20 minutes ago, Ole Dirty Klondike said:

I have no clue what Wright will get offered in FA but I think we may be safe with this QO. The only downside is this summer is second only to 2016 as far as the total amount of.money available to spend on FAs so he may get a big deal but wouldn't be surprised if he didn't get the MLE. He's 27 y/o and a career backup. Nothing stands out on his resume. I can't see him being on many teams radar. I think we're safe but the amount of money teams could spend could lead to irrational exuberance.

Its gonna be pretty wild in a few days thats for sure. Nothing would really going to shock me lol .i know its KD but an bad injury and out for a year and getting MAX is crazy lol.does this happen in other sports ? 

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3 hours ago, Ole Dirty Klondike said:

I have no clue what Wright will get offered in FA but I think we may be safe with this QO. The only downside is this summer is second only to 2016 as far as the total amount of.money available to spend on FAs so he may get a big deal but wouldn't be surprised if he didn't get the MLE. He's 27 y/o and a career backup. Nothing stands out on his resume. I can't see him being on many teams radar. I think we're safe but the amount of money teams could spend could lead to irrational exuberance.

the only reason he was a backup was because of a guy named Van cleef.  did you see him in the championship series?

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20 minutes ago, gentlemanquartely said:

the only reason he was a backup was because of a guy named Van cleef.  did you see him in the championship series?

He was behind both Lowry and VanVleet. The prior year he was about even in minutes with VanVleet (though both markedly behind Lowry). Two years before that he was behind Cory Joseph and Lowry.

To say he's a career back-up is...accurate. Prior to coming to the hodgepodge end-of-season roster of the Grizzlies he had started only 7 games in his entire career.

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3 hours ago, Allen said:

Why have people already giving up on Carter after 1 year?

For me its because we have JA and hopefully Delon . Dorsey looked good to me and now Konchar on a two-way who i think will impress . we also have Bradley who could very well be back his salary isnt  bad for a starter level guy and he can play PG and played great while here .

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14 hours ago, srmjr23 said:

I'd be absolutely, 100% ok giving him 3/30m. He's going to be good. It's not easy getting backup PGs, and it's (IMO) the most important backup position you can have (by a lot). Let's learn from too many years of Mike never having a guy to back him up and give Delon what it takes to keep him here.

That's too much and even though he was good last year his pairing next to Ja isn't the best. Ja needs shooters I would see what Delon is offered and compare that to what Satoransky is getting. 

Those two are very similar Satoransky is better offensively and Delon defensively. I think Satoransky is probably the better fit to play with Ja mainly cause he's a very good spot up shooter.

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6 hours ago, gentlemanquartely said:

the only reason he was a backup was because of a guy named Van cleef.  did you see him in the championship series?

Well, i was about to reply and then saw ACCGrizz's reply. I think he gave the perfect reply.

6 hours ago, ACGrizz said:

He was behind both Lowry and VanVleet. The prior year he was about even in minutes with VanVleet (though both markedly behind Lowry). Two years before that he was behind Cory Joseph and Lowry.

To say he's a career back-up is...accurate. Prior to coming to the hodgepodge end-of-season roster of the Grizzlies he had started only 7 games in his entire career.

Exactly. I wasn't trying to disparage the guy just stating a fact. Also, as his shot attempts increased, his shooting % decreased. He had a handful of nice games with the Grizz but people have to realize this guy is 27 years old, been in the league for 4 years and has only started 18 games (7 prior to the Grizz) and it's not like he has a specialty that he's really good at. Yes, he got some triple  doubles at the end of the season but most GMs will see that for what it was: it was at the end of the season for a lottery team and 2 of those came against a hapless Dallas team that wasn't trying to compete and a GS team that wasn't trying because it didn't affect their playoff position. Jevon Carter has 32 in that game, can he go out and get the MLE? Grayson Allen scored 40 points in his last game, should he get a big contract based off of one game?

People need to put things in perspective. with that being said, once again, this offseason has the second most available money to spend on players in league history only behind the summer of 2016 (the Chancun hangover will never end) so who knows how much he will get offered by another team but in a normal season, his QO is about what he's worth maybe a little more. 

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13 hours ago, Allen said:

Why have people already giving up on Carter after 1 year?

I never wanted him to begin with. They should have taken Brunson, but they were trying to re-boot Grit and Grind so they took the defensive guy. Now a year later Grit and Grind is officially dead and we are stuck with him.

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Delon should be our starting PG for the first three weeks. Take a little heat off the rook. 

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36 minutes ago, KyleB said:

I never wanted him to begin with. They should have taken Brunson, but they were trying to re-boot Grit and Grind so they took the defensive guy. Now a year later Grit and Grind is officially dead and we are stuck with him.

I think that BOTH of those guys have fairly low ceilings. 

Maybe the thinking was, Brunson is too much like a Conley type player, so if we need a change of pace guy, then Jevon Carter should be the pick.

Although outside of ELITE point guards (which Ja could turn into), I think you want a point guard who is a defensive specialist, can run a bit of offense, and not be a total liability on offense.

If DEFENSE matters more for average/mediocre point guards then Jevon Carter has more upside and a higher FLOOR than Jalen Brunson.

Brunson is probably a poor man's Conley.  Carter is probably a poor man's Kyle Lowry.

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