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To spend the TPE on Adams when peoples are whining about paying Jonas 12-15 would be a complete waste of the TPE and not a logical strategy.

We need to use it on a shooting G or Wingman. Unless we are gonna bid for Kawhi, KD or Butler, the choices of SG/SF in FA aren't great. Danny Green, KCP, TRoss, Middleton, Hood, Barnes, Oubre and Danuel House are the best of the rest.

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3 minutes ago, BigHunkALove said:

To spend the TPE on Adams when peoples are whining about paying Jonas 12-15 would be a complete waste of the TPE and not a logical strategy.

We need to use it on a shooting G or Wingman. Unless we are gonna bid for Kawhi, KD or Butler, the choices of SG/SF in FA aren't great. Danny Green, KCP, TRoss, Middleton, Hood, Barnes, Oubre and Danuel House are the best of the rest.

All of those guys are FAs,  how would you use TPE on then?

 

PS.:From that list Middleton is the best player

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8 minutes ago, Ja_Rules said:

All of those guys are FAs,  how would you use TPE on then?

 

PS.:From that list Middleton is the best player

Just saying the list of SG/SF  FAs ain't great this summer (assuming KD, Kawhi, Klay Butler aren't coming here)

But I don't wanna blow the TPE on Adams or Wiggins etc when we gonna have our books in order for next FA

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6 minutes ago, BigHunkALove said:

Just saying the list of SG/SF  FAs ain't great this summer (assuming KD, Kawhi, Klay Butler aren't coming here)

But I don't wanna blow the TPE on Adams or Wiggins etc when we gonna have our books in order for next FA

If that is the case we better use TPE and if necessary split it in 2, getting a Joe Harris, M Harrel or Myles Tuner type of player, if any of those teams wanting to dump salary make them available.

PS.: I would be ok with Wiggins and Adams, special if we get extra return 

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41 minutes ago, Ja_Rules said:

If that is the case we better use TPE and if necessary split it in 2, getting a Joe Harris, M Harrel or Myles Tuner type of player, if any of those teams wanting to dump salary make them available.

PS.: I would be ok with Wiggins and Adams, special if we get extra return 

Wiggins makes slightly more than the TPE so he's off the list.

Harris is a possibility depending on what they do about Kyrie, KD and Russell. I think the Clippers want to keep Harrell.

At the moment, we are looking at guards like Will Barton, Tyler Johnson, and Tim Hardaway, MKG if he opts in, although at the trade deadline that may change

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Here are some facts about trade exceptions;

The Grizzlies are currently in possession of 4 trade exceptions, the largest is an 8 million dollar one from the Garrett Temple trade.

You can only use one trade exception per season.

The current largest trade exception is owned by the Mavs for 21.3 mil from the Harrison Barnes trade.

Using a trade exception is simply taking on salary without sending any out.

When a team is rebuilding, do they look to take on more salary and get near or over the luxury tax, or do they try to get below the salary cap for more flexibility? Does any owner want to pay salary near or over the luxury tax knowing they will be having a losing season, which results in less income from lower attendance? That would be a lose - lose from the business perspective. When the Grizzlies get the Conley trade exception in a couple of weeks, don't expect them to use it. They might but the odds are against it.

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21 hours ago, BigHunkALove said:

To spend the TPE on Adams when peoples are whining about paying Jonas 12-15 would be a complete waste of the TPE and not a logical strategy.

We need to use it on a shooting G or Wingman. Unless we are gonna bid for Kawhi, KD or Butler, the choices of SG/SF in FA aren't great. Danny Green, KCP, TRoss, Middleton, Hood, Barnes, Oubre and Danuel House are the best of the rest.

 

I don't think Middleton is attainable. Neither is House, but I wouldn't mind making him an offer just to force the Rockets to pay him and go in to luxury tax more.

If Bradley is on the roster, you don't need some of those other guys like Green.

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On 6/22/2019 at 4:11 PM, Ja_Rules said:

Jaren/Crowder/Clarke 

That seems like under-utilizing talent, and is bound to make someone unhappy. 

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31 minutes ago, Grizzled Vet said:

 

I don't think Middleton is attainable. Neither is House, but I wouldn't mind making him an offer just to force the Rockets to pay him and go in to luxury tax more.

If Bradley is on the roster, you don't need some of those other guys like Green.

First part agreed.

2nd part - I was working off the assumption that Avery would be waived since that is the general concensus around here

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We need to spend that thing before its gone!

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58 minutes ago, grizzgolf said:

We need to spend that thing before its gone!

Why?  It isn't money.  It's merely an exception to the rules.  If there is something that makes sense and will not mess up our salary situation, maybe.

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On ‎6‎/‎22‎/‎2019 at 7:11 PM, Ja_Rules said:

If its true that OKC wants to get out of luxury tax, we should call them and take Steven Adams. That would solve the situation about JV (Adams is overpaid, but is on a 2 year deal) and Adams is better suited to the type of offense we will have with Ja.Show the door to Parsons, give your TPE for Okc, QO and match Delon.

Ja/Delon/Carter 

Dillon/Bradley/Allen/Yuta(2w)

SlowMo/Caboclo/Korver/CJ

Jaren/Crowder/Clarke

Adams/Rabb/ ? (2w)

Next year we have Bradley, Korver, Caboclo, Dillon, Carter, Rabb, Crowder, Yuta and CJ expiring. 

We might get into Playoffs on year one of the JaJa duo.

PS.: If we absorve Adams contract using all the TPE, can we keep everybody or we will have to cut Korver and/or Bradley?

 

Dillon brooks aint starting over Avery Bradley lol. He might not even start over grayson allen lol

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14 hours ago, Father Pat said:

Here are some facts about trade exceptions;

The Grizzlies are currently in possession of 4 trade exceptions, the largest is an 8 million dollar one from the Garrett Temple trade.

You can only use one trade exception per season.

The current largest trade exception is owned by the Mavs for 21.3 mil from the Harrison Barnes trade.

Using a trade exception is simply taking on salary without sending any out.

When a team is rebuilding, do they look to take on more salary and get near or over the luxury tax, or do they try to get below the salary cap for more flexibility? Does any owner want to pay salary near or over the luxury tax knowing they will be having a losing season, which results in less income from lower attendance? That would be a lose - lose from the business perspective. When the Grizzlies get the Conley trade exception in a couple of weeks, don't expect them to use it. They might but the odds are against it.

what? the grizzlies own a 25 million exception. I think you're getting your info from spotrac which does not include the 25 million exception. an updated exception sheet would show that we only have roughly 1 million of the 8 million exception from garrett temple because crowder's contract was absorbed into that. Same with the 2.5 milli exception we got from jarrel martin. Grayson's contract was absorded into that one, so again, we have the 25 million dollar exception that expires, June 19 2020

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4 minutes ago, First Team All Memphis said:

what? the grizzlies own a 25 million exception. I think you're getting your info from spotrac which does not include the 25 million exception. an updated exception sheet would show that we only have roughly 1 million of the 8 million exception from garrett temple because crowder's contract was absorbed into that. Same with the 2.5 milli exception we got from jarrel martin. Grayson's contract was absorded into that one, so again, we have the 25 million dollar exception that expires, June 19 2020

How do the Grizzlies have a trade exception for a trade that has not happened yet???

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2 minutes ago, Father Pat said:

How do the Grizzlies have a trade exception for a trade that has not happened yet???

its all over the internet my guy. many fans and media members have been talking about it literally since the trade has happened. its not official, but everybody is using common sense.

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1 minute ago, First Team All Memphis said:

its all over the internet my guy. many fans and media members have been talking about it literally since the trade has happened. its not official, but everybody is using common sense.

Guess what, when the trade becomes official is when the Grizzlies have a 25 million dollar trade exception that they can use. 

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22 minutes ago, First Team All Memphis said:

smh, ok...

Everything you think you know about the trade exceptions in the proposed Mike Conley trade to Utah is from USA Today writer Yossi Gozlan. The trade exceptions are complete hypothetical possibilities voiced by him. The Grizzlies don't have to accept a TPE in the Conley trade and could instead lose the cap hold to get under the salary cap if they wish to sign a free agent. You don't know. No one knows for sure until the trade becomes official.

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16 hours ago, Father Pat said:

Here are some facts about trade exceptions;

The Grizzlies are currently in possession of 4 trade exceptions, the largest is an 8 million dollar one from the Garrett Temple trade.

You can only use one trade exception per season.

The current largest trade exception is owned by the Mavs for 21.3 mil from the Harrison Barnes trade.

Using a trade exception is simply taking on salary without sending any out.

When a team is rebuilding, do they look to take on more salary and get near or over the luxury tax, or do they try to get below the salary cap for more flexibility? Does any owner want to pay salary near or over the luxury tax knowing they will be having a losing season, which results in less income from lower attendance? That would be a lose - lose from the business perspective. When the Grizzlies get the Conley trade exception in a couple of weeks, don't expect them to use it. They might but the odds are against it.

For the most part this is true but there can be exceptions.

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teams can combine exceptions in the same trade if they are used on different players. Teams cannot combine exceptions in order to acquire one player. 

 

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Remember this is all hypothetical. We only get this trade exception if the trade comes down in a very particular fashion. If the FO has no intention of using a $25M TPE (and they probably won't because it'll send us into the tax) there's no point in creating it to begin with.

EDIT: I see Father Pat already mentioned it.

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On June 22, 2019 at 6:13 PM, fanboyslim said:

No, you definitely can. What you cannot do is combine it with anything else (another exception or player).

Oh that's a bonus then. That could really come in handy if we lose out on keeping both JV and Delon yet still not under the cap much.

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On 6/21/2019 at 11:10 PM, LuvThem Grizzlies said:

Yeah but the Grizz urinated them off but good.

How bout that!

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