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5 hours ago, MemphisX said:

I am not changing my 38 win projection yet but I would love to give Boston a pick in the 20s in a shallow draft.  Especially with the way their media and fans have been acting like we were going to give them a future superstar. 

 

This got to be based on one of Conley/Gasol going down for a large % of games, right?

I agree with them getting about 35-38 games in that case, but if they're healthy, I'm expecting around 43-45 + playoffs. Thought the same prior to the season especially with Conley's efficiency picking up.

I want to give this years pick to Boston anyway. Takes that debt off the book, which we really need. The further out we go holding onto that debt, the less likely we mess ourselves over. Also, the 2020 draft class has a ton of guard propsects:  Edwards, Anthony, Antoine, Josh Green (if he doesn't re-classify), Lecque, Scottie Lewis. If this year is a good healthy season, hard to believe we have two b2b, so I'm moreso counting on 2020 being another potential lottery year.

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1 hour ago, BHZMAFIA said:

This got to be based on one of Conley/Gasol going down for a large % of games, right?

I agree with them getting about 35-38 games in that case, but if they're healthy, I'm expecting around 43-45 + playoffs. Thought the same prior to the season especially with Conley's efficiency picking up.

I want to give this years pick to Boston anyway. Takes that debt off the book, which we really need. The further out we go holding onto that debt, the less likely we mess ourselves over. Also, the 2020 draft class has a ton of guard propsects:  Edwards, Anthony, Antoine, Josh Green (if he doesn't re-classify), Lecque, Scottie Lewis. If this year is a good healthy season, hard to believe we have two b2b, so I'm moreso counting on 2020 being another potential lottery year.

It really depends on what you call "healthy" or a large % of games. Conley missing 10 games, especially during a tough stretch, could be a death blow. Particularly since he usually takes a minute to get his game up to max speed again once he returns, like at the beginning of this year. However, 70 games still qualifies as a healthy year to most people.

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On 11/16/2018 at 10:43 AM, Dwash said:

It really depends on what you call "healthy" or a large % of games. Conley missing 10 games, especially during a tough stretch, could be a death blow. Particularly since he usually takes a minute to get his game up to max speed again once he returns, like at the beginning of this year. However, 70 games still qualifies as a healthy year to most people.

Everyone needs to remember that this year’s team is only one game ahead of last season’s pace right now. This would be the first game last season without Conley also. As long as Gasol and Conley stay healthy the team can win. My prediction was based on one or both not being healthy.

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1 hour ago, Dwash said:

It really depends on what you call "healthy" or a large % of games. Conley missing 10 games, especially during a tough stretch, could be a death blow. Particularly since he usually takes a minute to get his game up to max speed again once he returns, like at the beginning of this year. However, 70 games still qualifies as a healthy year to most people.

Yea, I would say more like 70 games. I honestly anticipate some sort of run to happen where we reel off something like 8 out of 10 too. Leaving us room for slight collapse. However, we are also in a much better situation in terms of our backup PG. Usually Conley going down means doom and gloom. We are still worse off, but Mack definitely can keep things together somewhat.

I feel like losing Marc 10 games may mean more to us than Conley right now depending on the stretch we're in. Think of 15-16 when Conley missed 7 straight games midseason and we went 5-2 with Rio starting. Which is  why I think the FO decided to work on getting a good backup PG this year instead of going with the uncertainty of rookie/2nd yr guys who are more up and down.

5 minutes ago, chipc3 said:

Everyone needs to remember that this year’s team is only one game ahead of last season’s pace right now. This would be the first game last season without Conley also. As lo g as Gasol and Conley stay healthy the team can win. My prediction was based on one or both not being healthy.

This is true as I was looking at when Conley went down last season. Even more encouraging that Conley didn't put together a stretch of games early on last season like he's doing right now over the last 3. 

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19 hours ago, BHZMAFIA said:

Yea, I would say more like 70 games. I honestly anticipate some sort of run to happen where we reel off something like 8 out of 10 too. Leaving us room for slight collapse. However, we are also in a much better situation in terms of our backup PG. Usually Conley going down means doom and gloom. We are still worse off, but Mack definitely can keep things together somewhat.

I feel like losing Marc 10 games may mean more to us than Conley right now depending on the stretch we're in. Think of 15-16 when Conley missed 7 straight games midseason and we went 5-2 with Rio starting. Which is  why I think the FO decided to work on getting a good backup PG this year instead of going with the uncertainty of rookie/2nd yr guys who are more up and down.

This is true as I was looking at when Conley went down last season. Even more encouraging that Conley didn't put together a stretch of games early on last season like he's doing right now over the last 3. 

I don't think that Rio was the difference so much as the rest of the team being competent.  Sure, Mario played some good ball for stretches of that season, but he had a better cast of teammates.

In 2016-2017 when Mike went down for a 9 game stretch they posted a 7-2 record with a six game winning streak culminating with a 21 point rout over the Golden State Warriors with Andrew Harrison starting.  Two weeks later, when Mike missed a couple of games, we also had a 34 point stomping of the Oklahoma City Thunder with Andrew starting.

The big difference with Mike going down last season as opposed to the seasons before is that in the seasons prior we still had Zbo, TA and Vince, three guys who knew how to win.  Last season when Mike got hurt there was no one.  This season we have a few new faces who know how to play, and a very talented rookie.  Mike is, and has been, very important to the team's success, but it makes a huge difference what the caliber of the rest of the squad looks like in the event that he gets hurt.  Mack looks to be a good addition and so does Garrett.  Kyle doesn't offer much scoring, but he affects the game in other ways with rebounding, defense and playmaking and Jaren is huge for us right now.  I think the FO has assembled a much better cast of players overall compared to last season.  I'm fairly optimistic.

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20 hours ago, BHZMAFIA said:

Yea, I would say more like 70 games. I honestly anticipate some sort of run to happen where we reel off something like 8 out of 10 too. Leaving us room for slight collapse. However, we are also in a much better situation in terms of our backup PG. Usually Conley going down means doom and gloom. We are still worse off, but Mack definitely can keep things together somewhat.

I feel like losing Marc 10 games may mean more to us than Conley right now depending on the stretch we're in. Think of 15-16 when Conley missed 7 straight games midseason and we went 5-2 with Rio starting. Which is  why I think the FO decided to work on getting a good backup PG this year instead of going with the uncertainty of rookie/2nd yr guys who are more up and down.

This is true as I was looking at when Conley went down last season. Even more encouraging that Conley didn't put together a stretch of games early on last season like he's doing right now over the last 3. 

I think losing Marc would hurt the Grizz more than losing Conley because Mack is a capable PG. Narc is better at running the team, he don't care who scores.

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18 minutes ago, LuvThem Grizzlies said:

I think losing Marc would hurt the Grizz more than losing Conley because Mack is a capable PG. Narc is better at running the team, he don't care who scores.

Losing either would be bad. The grizzlies d relies on Gasol and grizzlies o relies on both conley and Gasol. Mack is good but don't act like he can replace Mike. That's ludicrous. 

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3 hours ago, LuvThem Grizzlies said:

I think losing Marc would hurt the Grizz more than losing Conley because Mack is a capable PG. Narc is better at running the team, he don't care who scores.

As if Mike does?

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Mack is capable as a backup. 36 minutes a night and depending on him would make you sad.  Not only that but the. We are depending on Jevon to do what Mack has been doing and that would be even more disappointing.

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19 minutes ago, smit-tay griz said:

As if Mike does?

I have no idea how these cats justify what they say. All we heard was how Marc was done. Over. Finished. And they would laugh at anybody who thought otherwise. Now losing Marc would hurt the grizz? I thought Marc was the problem.

Then they want to say that all we needed to do was bring in shelvin mack, and the grizzlies would have won. I thought last year that tyreke evans was the savior? 

These dudes need to get their story straight, they ain't making a lot of sense.

 

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3 hours ago, Kevin B Moses said:

I have no idea how these cats justify what they say. All we heard was how Marc was done. Over. Finished. And they would laugh at anybody who thought otherwise. Now losing Marc would hurt the grizz? I thought Marc was the problem.

Then they want to say that all we needed to do was bring in shelvin mack, and the grizzlies would have won. I thought last year that tyreke evans was the savior? 

These dudes need to get their story straight, they ain't making a lot of sense.

 

Honestly, most people forgot about contract year Marc.

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3 hours ago, MemphisX said:

Mack is capable as a backup. 36 minutes a night and depending on him would make you sad.  Not only that but the. We are depending on Jevon to do what Mack has been doing and that would be even more disappointing.

The Grizz have other guys who can run the point, all they wound have to do is get it upcourt and give it to MG.

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On 11/16/2018 at 3:33 AM, MemphisX said:

I am not changing my 38 win projection yet but I would love to give Boston a pick in the 20s in a shallow draft.  Especially with the way their media and fans have been acting like we were going to give them a future superstar.

 

I am gonna laugh if our pick is worse than Boston's own pick. The King's pick might not be great for Boston either. 

I am assuming we have a 2nd rounder in 2019 or would buy one if interested so I am keeping my eye on freakish utility guys. Failing that: athletic/scoring wing types who fall in the draft. Tacko Fall and Sagaba Konate being two guys who interest me.

For the Chris Wallace Special Trifecta: LaGerald Vick -- local kid outta Memphis, went to Kansas, tweener wing with some bounce (I think) and can hit the 3 (streaky). He's got some JR Smith potential.

Maybe we go with a Michigan State heat check. Like that Stevie Nicks guy.  Nicks something. Whatever.

Potential CW Beast Mode 2nd round pick: a "falling" Kris Wilkes.  

 

 

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1 hour ago, LuvThem Grizzlies said:

The Grizz have other guys who can run the point, all they wound have to do is get it upcourt and give it to MG.

that IS what we are doing...

Mike is playing - for the most part - off the ball

kinda like a 2 . I have noticed that he is able to catch his breath in the corner and let the other guys get going . That allows him to go full speed and get some when he has an opening.

I still get nervous when he goes to the floor BUT I also respect the fact that he has the sweetest floater in the L. 

Somebody/ anybody clears half court and gives it up to Marc at the top of the key ...

(He rarely goes into the paint on offense. He directs the offense just fine from outside. )

When 13 is on the floor - he looks like he LOOKS FOR a good tussle as he fights for position down low.

IF they sag off Marc and tighten up on the others - MG gives 'em a 3 ball . 

IF they try to body up on the rookie - he already has enough slick post moves to make 'em look bad. 

IF they leave the rookie outside to double up somewhere else - 3 ball . no hesitation.

This team has quite a few options ... gonna be a fun ride this year!

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For the people interested in Garland being the replacement for Conley in a few years when Mike hangs it up...

He now already has a 33 point game in college.  Took 3 games.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=3n22jhiYc4s

For the Simi fans, here he is posterizing a couple of white boys...

https://twitter.com/vuhustlersports/status/1064713145367842817

 

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16 hours ago, bhoyal said:

For the people interested in Garland being the replacement for Conley in a few years when Mike hangs it up...

He now already has a 33 point game in college.  Took 3 games.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=3n22jhiYc4s

For the Simi fans, here he is posterizing a couple of white boys...

https://twitter.com/vuhustlersports/status/1064713145367842817

 

Almost as good as Wade Baldwin.

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On 11/21/2018 at 8:04 AM, Thomas said:

Almost as good as Wade Baldwin.

 

Who is (cough-cough) "almost as good" as G-league Kobi Simmons. 

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Not that many guys this year stand out to me.  

I am all about Zion and Super Bol but that's about it.

I would like a defensive big wing off the bench.  Maybe De'Andre Hunter.   The best we can do in the 2nd round is a high level specialist or utility guy.

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Garland with knee injury in first minute of game after his 33 point outburst.

More information possibly tomorrow.  (sounds like an MRI is pending)

 

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I've seen Sagaba Konate's name a few times on the board and thought I would give some insight to him since I watch every WVU basketball game from year to year.

Sags is what we call him in WV. Sags is an undersized PF/C that is a natural shot blocker. Sags comes from Mali and has only played basketball around 6 years. He is a tank of a body who can jump out of the gym 6-8 260 is what the dude is listed at but he's actually more around 6-7. Sags makes up for his height by his natural ability to block shots and play defense. I would compare him with a Ben Wallace type of player who can score.

Sags before this season was not a 3 point shooter and did not have much range outside of 12 ft. This summer he has worked tirelessly to become more than one dimensional. This season he is shooting 45% from 3 point range, 80% from free throws, and has a career 52% from field goals. He is a raw offensive player who continues to get better and has elite defensive ability. Sags will be the school leader in blocked shots before his career is over at WVU, only needing 11 blocks to obtain this, in only 2 years and a handful of games this year. Career 2.3 blocks per game 170 total. Sags is giving WVU 15 ppg 8 rpg 2.2 bpg 1.2 stl in only 26 mpg for Bob Huggins this year.

 

My biased but unbiased opinion of Sags is he is a late 1st round pick early 2nd rounder. He has a ton of potential especially if he keeps developing an offensive game. What a team would be getting is a competitor. Sags competes. Anyone who plays for Bob Huggins will go into the fire and probably come out on top. Of course I would love to see us draft him because he fits what we do, and that is gritty defense. Sags would be a great back up PF/C and could even elevate to a starter. He will never be an All-Star but he is going to be good at the next level. He could be a huge asset. Time will tell.

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