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Conley for Exum/12

 

Gasol for Mudiay

 

Tony Allen for 19 (Wizards)

 

Ah, the Philadelphia strategy. 

 

(The Brain, responding to a suggestion from Pinky)

B: Brilliant, Pinky! Oh, no, wait. What if we want to use a plan that works?

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TA and the 25th pick for the Heat 10th?

TA, Leuer and 25th pick for Josh McRoberts and the 10th pick?

 

Not unreasonable. 

One of McRoberts or Leuer will suddenly improve one year, but it's a tossup which one. 

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I'm really not. Look at the players that have been drafted in the lower part of the draft lately: Chandler Parsons, Gobert, Draymond Green, Khris Middleton, Jimmy Butler, Nikola Mirotic, Lance Stephenson, Marc Gasol.

 

These are all guys that were drafted form the late 20s to the second round in the last 4 to 5 years. And there are even more players that could be heard from soon from the spurs: Livio-st.-charles, Nemanja Nedovic.

 

These guys are not long shots they are all players that are getting max or close to max deals and getting drafted by smart teams.

 

Conversly, look at the top 5 of the 2013 draft:

Bennett

Oladipo

Len

Porter

Zeller

 

gross.

None were helping contending teams as rookies. You just want to ignore that tidbit and keep on with your fantasy of the Grizz picking a starting SF at 25 that pushes us to the finals. I won't kill your dreams.

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None were helping contending teams as rookies. You just want to ignore that tidbit and keep on with your fantasy of the Grizz picking a starting SF at 25 that pushes us to the finals. I won't kill your dreams.

theres always a steal. Look at monta, parsons, and even gasol. If we find a steal he could take us to the next level

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None were helping contending teams as rookies. You just want to ignore that tidbit and keep on with your fantasy of the Grizz picking a starting SF at 25 that pushes us to the finals. I won't kill your dreams.

 

 

This draft is loaded with players. You just have to find that player.

 

Also, I'm not sure why you believe that the grizzlies need a starting sf, the grizzlies need a player, period. It doesn't matter what position he comes from. Also, I expect jeff green to play a lot better next year similar to what lee did this year. 

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We need that 2nd line of the defense incase TA goes down. Like when Prince first came and doing the time Battier played for the team. TA was like the entire heart of the defense and we need one more 2way specialist. A PJ Tucker or a Jared Dudley would be ideal. Draft wise Justin Anderson or Jefferson.

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Do yall truly believe a couple of MLE free agents and the 25th pick is going to push this team over the top? 

There could be a trade opportunity that presents itself.

 

Dumping all the players that made us this good will do nothing but just cement the impossibility of attracting any serious free agents, and any decent player we draft would be looking for an early exit.

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You guys operate in a space of fear too much.

 

I am think that just like Minnesota, we are due some lottery luck.

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You guys operate in a space of fear too much.

 

I am think that just like Minnesota, we are due some lottery luck.

 

 

Ironically, the same could be said of your position. You can find a star ANYWHERE in the draft, and that's been proven time and again. The grizzlies need to find a player in this draft that can help them win, no matter what the position is.

 

I for one believe that player is in this draft and will be available when we pick.

 

Also, we still don't know what we have in Jordan Adams or Stokes, but both look extremely promising. 

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Promising for what? I'm not sure Stokes has a place in the new NBA without a jump shot. Plus he is likely cut this offseason. There are three PFs ahead of him and that is not including Jeff Green.

 

Now Adams, I do like. I am hopeful he is ready to be a backup next season. Not hopeful he can beat out CLee or TA for playing time though.

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You guys operate in a space of fear too much.

 

I am think that just like Minnesota, we are due some lottery luck.

No, X, I just like winning.

 

Yeah, Minnesota has done so well.

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Promising for what? I'm not sure Stokes has a place in the new NBA without a jump shot. Plus he is likely cut this offseason. There are three PFs ahead of him and that is not including Jeff Green.

 

Now Adams, I do like. I am hopeful he is ready to be a backup next season. Not hopeful he can beat out CLee or TA for playing time though.

 

 

Stokes has a pretty good low post game from what I remember. He ain't a stretch four, if that's what you mean, but the grizzlies never intended for him to be that.

 

He is a rebounder and a garbage guy like say kendrick perkins, and the grizzlies liked his toughness and what he provides on the defensive boards.

 

That's what we need, we need another rebounder.  

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the Grizzlies didn't even trust Stokes to be a 3rd string pf, they brought in Jam Green and Thomas instead. He has no future, if there's a backup pf that the Grizzlies probably have hope in its Green

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the Grizzlies didn't even trust Stokes to be a 3rd string pf, they brought in Jam Green and Thomas instead. He has no future, if there's a backup pf that the Grizzlies probably have hope in its Green

 

 

Not really sure that's accurate. Jam Green didn't really play all that much either. Maybe X is right that Joerger didn't like that he couldn't space the floor, but if that's the case, why draft the guy at all. It makes no sense to me that you draft a player with a skillset that you aren't interested in utilizing.

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Not really sure that's accurate. Jam Green didn't really play all that much either. Maybe X is right that Joerger didn't like that he couldn't space the floor, but if that's the case, why draft the guy at all. It makes no sense to me that you draft a player with a skillset that you aren't interested in utilizing.

After Green was signed for the rest of the regular season:

Stokes played in 3 games

Leuer played in 15 games

Green played in 20 games and started 1 game

 

Stokes didn't even get garbage time after Green got here. Heck the Grizzlies didn't even wait to sign Green before sending him to the d-league, the Grizzlies had given up on Leuer as being anything productive and instead of giving Stokes an opportunity they got him out of Memphis and thought a guy like Tyrus Thomas deserved more of an opportunity. Of course Stokes responded positively by punching out a teammate in his d-league assignment

 

Joerger basically kept two of Koufos, Gasol, Randoph on the floor most of the time with Jeff Green playing the rest of the backup 4 minutes. But if there was foul trouble or the opponent had a large frontcourt Jam Green was clearly ahead of Leuer in the rotation by the end of the year. Stokes was about as irrelevant as you could possibly be.

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Stokes has a pretty good low post game from what I remember. He ain't a stretch four, if that's what you mean, but the grizzlies never intended for him to be that.

 

He is a rebounder and a garbage guy like say kendrick perkins, and the grizzlies liked his toughness and what he provides on the defensive boards.

 

That's what we need, we need another rebounder.  

 

 

At no time this season did I think we needed a player with Stokes skillset.

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If we get a chance at rj hunter and don't take it....

We will be ok. RJ Hunter is not going to be that good he's a 6'5 6'6 sg that weighs less than 200lbs with a low shooting % who isn't athletic or known for playing any defense. Pretty much a one dimensional rookie that won't play. Justin Anderson is the best bet if we are drafting a wing that could possibly play right away but he has to prove his jumper is legit.

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Does anyone else think Dellavedova would be a good back up pg here?

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I am down with Delladova being our primary backup.

 

Yea I like his style and he is a good pick n roll pg. He's getting so much negative press in Cleveland they might not match an offer sheet for him.

 

We would have to find a way to move beno though.

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Yea I like his style and he is a good pick n roll pg. He's getting so much negative press in Cleveland they might not match an offer sheet for him.

 

We would have to find a way to move beno though.

 

 

also an undrafted player. 

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That is the reason his price tag shouldn't be too high

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Does anyone else think Dellavedova would be a good back up pg here?

 

 

Why would he leave a team that will now be a yearly championship contender to come to Memphis?

 

You can find a star ANYWHERE in the draft, and that's been proven time and again. The grizzlies need to find a player in this draft that can help them win, no matter what the position is.

 

 

+1. This statement is completely true. Grizzlies fans (myself included) have just grown so pessimistic of finding star players in the draft because of our recent history of either making terrible draft selections or trading them because they have a chance to develop.

 

Just because we haven't gotten it right since 2007, doesn't mean you can't find good players and potentially stars anywhere in the draft.

 

Yea I like his style and he is a good pick n roll pg. He's getting so much negative press in Cleveland they might not match an offer sheet for him.

 

We would have to find a way to move beno though.

 

This comment makes no sense. He's not getting any negative press in Cleveland. They (the front office, teammates and fans) absolutely love his toughness. The plays with Korver and Horford are no different from when Patrick Beverly "caused" Russell Westbrook's injury years ago. The media tries to imply things (such as him being a dirty player) that aren't true. So them not matching an offer sheet for any reason other than financial implications is dumb.

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