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If we play against this guy FOUR times a year and have so the past FOUR years and that's just counting the regular season. That's 16 games and we still haven't figured out how to SLOW him down?

 

Something is wrong with that picture IMO.

 

Coach Hollins you get paid to figure out how to contain this guy. We've had enough games to know exactly what Tony Parker is going to do.

 

Looks like the Spurs been scouting the heck out of Z-Bo because they have totally taken him out this series.

 

Now I do agree sometimes the Players have to say I'm not letting this guy beat the crap out of me everytime down the floor. How many times have our BIGs put Tony on his assss? Ain't no way in HELLLL (in Charles Barkley) voice would I let Tony keep driving in for easy Layups all series. I would bring in one of my BIG reserve bench players and lay a good and hard foul on him! Not once, not twice but a few nice bumps! That's the problem most teams are scared to play TP aggressive. Look what happen when Z-Bo was physical with Blake Griffin it took him out his game and rhythm.

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The Grizzlies have played against Parker a lot, as have other teams, and the guy is an All-Star because teams struggle stopping him.

 

I think the best move for the Grizzlies would be to try and make Parker beat them without helping out too much. He is far more dangerous getting teammates open looks than scoring enough by himself to defeat the Grizzlies. Put Conley or Allen on Parker rotating regularly between the two and have everyone else stick to their own man. Parker could score 40 but the team can handle him trying to do that far better than the defense helping on Parker and him getting everyone else involved with easy looks.

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Very good point Chip. Where would you rank Parker amongst all point guards in the history of the league? I think he's up there with John Stockton or maybe even better. The guy does have 4 rings.

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Very good point Chip. Where would you rank Parker amongst all point guards in the history of the league? I think he's up there with John Stockton or maybe even better. The guy does have 4 rings.

Wow. That's a bit more than I was planning on discussing.

 

All-Time: 1. Magic Johnson 2. John Stockton 3. Steve Nash 4. Isiah Thomas 5. Chris Paul

 

Current: 1. Chris Paul 2. Derrick Rose TIE 3. Russell Westbrook Tony Parker 5. Deron Williams 6. Steph Curry 7. Mike Conley (I'm a homer at heart) 8. Rajon Rondo

 

Honestly the difference between the top 3/4 is significant but the next 10 PGs are so close it's hard to differentiate

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Conley at 7 isn't much of a stretch at this point.

I imagine some people would say that was way too high. Consider the following names didn't make the list:

Damion Lillard, Jrue Holliday, Kyrie Irving, Ty Lawson, George Hill, Jeremy Lin...

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I completely forgot about lillard .

Kyrie is great to.it just seems like he would string some monster games then get hurt.

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I actually agree that Conley is definitely in the top 10. I don't think Lillard is there yet, he can score the ball but there is so much more he needs to learn to be on the levels of Conley, DWill, Curry, Lawson, Jrue, etc.

 

My list would be:

 

Paul

Parker

Rose

Westbrook

Rondo

Dwill

 

That's my top 6, then these next set are more in the same tier:

 

Curry (headed into the top tier)

Conley

Lawson

Wall

Kyrie

Jrue

 

Then you have the guys who just are not quite there yet and their games are not as polished as the ones above (that doesn't mean they will remain here):

 

Jennings

Rubio

Lillard

Lowry

Dragic

 

I could add more, but that's kinda how I view them.

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Just from my observation about Tony Parker, he is a shooter, but knows who to pass it to the hottest shooter at the moment. So, for me, I would just put one on one defence, and try to cut off the passing lane when you figure out who Parker likes to pass to at the moment. That means the coaches need to give Hollins minute by minute stats. I would not try to shut down Parker with this strategy, just shut down the rest.

 

On the other hand, to shut down Parker, you need to wear him down by rotating a few people to defend him with full court press. And, then try to drive on Parker and foul him out. On the offense, you want to use a lot of pick and roll on the guy that Parker is defending, that will wear him down, also.

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Just from my observation about Tony Parker, he is a shooter, but knows who to pass it to the hottest shooter at the moment. So, for me, I would just put one on one defence, and try to cut off the passing lane when you figure out who Parker likes to pass to at the moment. That means the coaches need to give Hollins minute by minute stats. I would not try to shut down Parker with this strategy, just shut down the rest. On the other hand, to shut down Parker, you need to wear him down by rotating a few people to defend him with full court press. And, then try to drive on Parker and foul him out. On the offense, you want to use a lot of pick and roll on the guy that Parker is defending, that will wear him down, also.

 

I agree with these points for the most part.

 

I don't think there is any benefit to be gained from doubling up on Parker because he is so good at dishing the ball to the open man. By doubling him we are only allowing other guys to get open looks. I would rather Parker take numerous contested 2s than the alternative - bringing help on him and allowing someone else an uncontested 3.

 

Your idea of attacking Parker more is where I think the Grizzlies have struggled (last game it was more of a product of ticky-tack fouls called on Mike Conley), but I am sure that this will be something we look at doing more in Game 3. Just setting up staggered screens or multiple picks will wear him down a great deal. It is not like Parker is a younger player anyway. He is definitely the key for them and if he can be contained somewhat I believe it will greatly improve our chances in this series.

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a lot of you made good points, theirs no reason to double Parker, ill rather he get 30 points and 6 assists, compared to 15 points and 18 assists, those assists contributed to at least over 40 points

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a lot of you made good points, theirs no reason to double Parker, ill rather he get 30 points and 6 assists, compared to 15 points and 18 assists, those assists contributed to at least over 40 points

Yep. Letting him rack up the dimes plays right into their hands - that is Spurs basketball. They led the league in assists per game if I'm not mistaken. I'd rather Parker go off scoring the ball, than allow them to get their ball movement crisp and keep the shooters warm.

 

And for crying out loud, can we put a hand in Matt Bonner's face? The guy may be the best pure shooter not named Curry in the game right now.

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Complicating rotations and penalizing teams for double teams is what the Spurs do best. I understand the strategy of trying to make life difficult for Parker, but staying home is far more important against a team that executes as well as the Spurs do.

 

Here's to Conley staying out of foul trouble in game 3.

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Conley needs to realize he's not playing against Chris Paul. He needs to stop the penetration and the best way to do that is to quit fighting over screens against Parker. Let him have the 3 pointer. He doesn't really want to shoot it & only hits about 35% (good, but not great).

 

Quit helping Conley or whoever is guarding Parker, except for the big (usually Marc) who is guarding a big at the foul line. Let him go for 40.

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