GrizzTigerFan

that's cool that you want that but Grizz FO promote the idea of "positionless" basketball and want everyone on court to be able to playmake and shoot 3s. However, i do think they appreciate Jonas as a change of pace player for that style of play.

yea no kidding. I know they aren't the first ones to have these injuries. I am just pointing out that modern NBA which requires Big men to play like guards on offense and be able to cover the entire court on defense - just increases the chances of those injuries for the Bigs.

Not sure what you are hinting at i am just trying to see if this is coincidence or a trend. If it is a trend then that would be good news for guys like Jonas, and Jokic who don't depend on athleticism to be effective. i am not be surprised that they are more mobile than me. What is apparent is that they aren't more mobile than all the frequently injured guys i mentioned.

Hakeem was a freak of nature and paid great attention to his health too. Hakeem also wasn't a 7ftr. He was only 6'10'. but it does make me wonder if a 6'9-10' guy with long wingspan and sturdy core is the answer. It really is unfair to expect these 7ft 250+lbs guys to guard the entire court and break down guys off the dribble to remain low injury.

Just makes me wonder if the modern NBA is too much for the joints and ligaments of 7ft guys that play like guards. Those are huge humans and all this stop and starting and leaping has to wreck havoc on their knees. Haven't majority of these modern NBA Bigs all had knee and joint injuries (Porzingas, Jaren, Wiseman, Embiid. DaBrow, Turner, John Collins, Capela, Bam, Cousins.......). In comparison the non mobile bigs like Jonas and Jokic don't really have a long injury history. Just something to think about.

exactly! Tillman has "glue guy role player" written all over him. If he improves his 3pt shot then it will be very difficult to justify playing BC over him. I am beginning to think Winslow has a very low pain threshold. Meaning that he will sit out longer than necessary for every knick and scrape instead of fighting thru like most players. I have always understood why FO took the gamble on Winslow ; his skillset was something we desp needed when looking at last years team.

Allen is bad on defense. Bane was a known good defender in college and has shown he can play well individually. Bane biggest issue is keeping up with the scheme. Allen is an inconsistent offensive player with below average defense. There are too many games that have shown this. I know you love Grayson but it is what it is. And a 30pt game against the combined defense of Trae Young and Lou Williams isn't gonna change those facts. His best outcome is 3pt specialists because he can and is a willing shooter. That is a good thing. Based off of ALL metrics Melton should be starting in his place. Bane has more upside but can play backup 3 if needed. I am not against Grayson being backup SG.

What this shows is that a team that starts Ja and Jonas MUST be strong defensively at the other positions. Ja and Jonas are gifted offensive players but are mostly huge negatives on defense. We aren't and will never be the Brooklyn Nets so defense is really important to our development as a contender. There isn't much historic precedence for Ja ever becoming a decent defender and Jonas is what he is. However, Jonas will not determine the fate of the franchise going forward that will be Ja. Basically Ja and Jonas offensive explosions mean nothing if we aren't playing good defense. Ja MUST always be paired with a good defender in the backcourt. Grayson Allen and Bane (right now) are not that. Going after a Bradley Beal or Zach Lavine sounds nice but will not elevate us to championship status if we do not have a staunch defense too. From all the advance stats and eyetest here are the best defenders currently on the roster Melton Winslow Tillman Jaren Anderson Brooks Bane (numbers like him) BC really concerns me. He hasn't been really good on either offense or defense consistently all season. Also regularly missing games too. Tillman looks like the player that is more important to wins IMHO. However, i know FO is fully invested in him. He needs to really work on developing a 3pt shot or i don't see much use for an undersized rim running 4 that isn't a rebounding best (ala Manimal). His wingspan and size puts a cap on him as a Frontcourt defender. Winslow is aggravating because his defense and size is ideal for the rotation but his health and offense makes if foolish to fully invest in him. We need another 6'6+ 3D wing and those don't grow on trees. Don't get me wrong i still think we need a dynamic iso player but i don't think we need to overvalue our offensive only players. Never forget the Grizz WCF team was a top defensive squad. We just need better balance and if Ja and Jonas are going to be huge parts of rotation (duh) then the role players need to be able to defend. Grayson needs to be a specialist not a starter. No more Tyus + Ja backcourts. More Melton! We need another 3D wing.

now. That's the only reason i could think of to bring back the exact same dude.

yea he is a little dude too. That may explain why they picked up Tim Frazier. Once Melton comes back i bet Ja gets a night off.

Pretty cool Sabonis and JV swapping jerseys.

what kinda mess was that Ja??

well this weekend sucked

Double wow.

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