GrizzTigerFan

6 mins ago – via Jake Fischer @ Bleacher Report Dragic appears likely to head to Toronto in such an agreement, which sources around the league expect to include Precious Achiuwa. There is a belief among rival executives that both Dragic and Achiuwa could be rerouted elsewhere in subsequent trades. And while the Heat still seem focused on finding a path to bring on DeMar DeRozan as well, that does not sound like a requirement for Lowry to join Miami. Maybe we can sneak into that rumored TOR MIA Lowry deal. See if they are willing to give us Dragic for Bledsoe+Grayson. Bledsoe could be a decent fit in TOR as a low-rent Kyle Lowry. Grayson gives them shooting. I don't want Achiuwa.

I have a hard time seeing anyone wanting Bledsoe unless its the Knicks. It would be much much easier just flipping Tyus and keeping him as backup if he wasnt such a headcase.

keeping Tillie means we have to move off of someone else because he takes us over 15.

Agree with you both and I see not enough fans are familiar with Adams game. They keep focusing on losing JV and not that we picked up Adams. The fact that he won't demand the ball on offense is why i believe his fit will ultimately be better. He also can operate in a faster paced offense much easier than JV could. He is more versatile on defense too and won't be glued to the paint like JV. As far as fit IMHO i think we completely won that trade. NOP is selling JV like he is some floor spacer, when in reality he is gonna need the ball to really have an impact. Whereas Adams is fine setting hard screens, protecting rim, and grabbing boards or boxing out. He is way more used to playing with a PG like Ja than JV was. I dont see how JV and Zion can coexist.

I forgot the sarcasm font.. but yea i know that hence why i lol'd.

So you are saying without JVs 17ppg we can't make the playoffs?..... If that is true then we may as well just tank and trade everyone then hope to get a SuperSTar in the draft to get us over the top. Because obviously JV is more important to winning than a healthy Ja and Jaren. If you say his rebounding is the difference then let me introduce you to Steven Adams. I don't think they are banking on taking a step back - i think they are willing to risk taking a slight one. Personally, i saw JV as a cog in the engine whereas some of y'all treating him like he was the entire car. If the team falls apart without JV then we truly need to flush this experiment and start over. SO far we have only loss JV and Justise from last years team. Thats all. I think we will be fine.

Agreed.

I literally couldn't disagree more. Vucevic is almost exactly like JV as in he needs the ball on offense and is a defensive liability. The name of the game is floor spacing and PickNroll defense. VucciMane gets exposed every PO's too. We have consistently said that Jaren just needs to be paired with a Rebounding Big (PF or C). Adams is a good rebounder and solid big man defender and doesn't demand the ball on offense. That is a much better fit with Jaren and Ja.

Listening to a Grizz podcast and someone crying on there about JV getting traded and thinking we will automatically become trash. Because they cannot see us replicating his low post scoring. Really makes me question if ppl have been paying attention to Grizz Org. JV is a solid player BUT he was never the future of the franchise. This was his BEST season in his 8yr career and he only averaged 17ppg. This person was questioning if we can depend on Jaren to reproduce JV output - when Jaren literally avg 17ppg in his sophomore season. Then being worried Jaren cannot produce the rebounding is a moot point because we picked up Adams. He acknowledged Adams is a better defender and JV was useless in Playoffs but still graded the trade bad because we traded our 2nd best player!?!? We swapped offense for defense in order to maximize Ja and Jaren. This was never Jonas's team, he was a role player for Ja and Jaren. Nothing wrong with that.

I am in a wait and see mode on JV versus Adams. One thing for sure is that FO was not gonna extend JV so it was wise to flip him for assets before losing him for nothing. Yes i want a vet backup combo PG - heck see if Jarret Jack wants the gig lol.

I am gonna need to see both Ziaire and Murphy play before i determine which is better. Murphy is more experienced but his ceiling isn't nearly as high. JV and Adams got the same type of contract for a reason. They are equal players. JV better on offense and Adams better on defense. Our offense was fine whenever JV didn't play its our defense that needs help. Adams will be the better fit.

Yea i don't disagree with you. I am good with Rashard or PG or MPjr type of wing added to Ja/Dillon/Jaren core. That gives us 4 different guys that all score in slightly different ways. Makes it much harder to shut them down in the playoffs. As much as fans may be disappointed in Jaren -you have to admit there is no lineup he cannot play in. Same with Dillon and potentially Ziaire too. 5th player is interchangeable depending on what is needed in a series. Need more playmaking/defense bring in Kyle; Need more athleticism bring in BC; Need more shooting bring in Bane; need more rebounding toughness bring in Adams. This is how you build a contending roster. Kleinman is on his game.

So far we have only loss Jonas and Justise but added Steven Adam's. I can't understand why so many fans thinks we will fall off a cliff because we replaced JV with Jaren and Adam's. IMHO I think it will be a Rudy tayshaun situation and will ultimately make us a better team.

Grizzlies already made a huge move flipping JV to NOP for Adams, Bledsoe and draft picks.

same here. If he hits then his fit is perfect between Ja DB and Jaren. As much as i wanted to pick up Christopher, he is still another 6'4 wing. Moody and Wagner i was really trying to force myself to be excited about because of my fear of picking Giddey lol. I am still not sure Wagner will stay a wing in the NBA or if he isn't just a 4. Moody just doesn't have the upside of ZW it aint even close. Everyone saying they wanted Brandon Ingram should be excited that we have a guy that has the tools to develop into our own version.