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  1. After the Suns swept the Nuggets, Chris Paul noted in the post game interview that he had a career night because of how the Nuggets, and the league for that matter, played the pick and roll. He noted, " a couple of years ago, the league started going to this 'drop defense' against the pick and roll. So, I started developing my mid range game more to take advantage of it. Tonight was the fruit of my hard work to refine my game and incorporate more mid-range shots." This is Grizz related because that was the Grizz strategy against the PnR, drop the big defender into the lane on the roll and allow the guard to drive to the mid-range area or the lane. This tries to take advantage of the fact that guards have no mid-range game anymore because analytics say that mid-range jump shots are terrible "inefficient" shots, so don't take them, even if they are wide open. But, as you see, CP3 crushed the Nuggets that night with 37 pts, not with a bunch of 3's or dunks, but mid range jumpers. He took advantage of a seriously flawed way of playing basketball. If you defend a team by banking on them either not taking or not being able to make a 15 ft. jump shot, you're sunk if they just so happen to say "screw analytics, we're taking and making wide open 15-20' jump shots". The Grizz looked so bad against the Jazz not because the Jazz were that much better than them talent wise (though Mitchell was the best player on the floor every night), but because they were lost defensively. Applying analytics and ignoring the mid-range game is not only what doomed the Grizz in the playoffs, but it's killing the league in general. The game is almost becoming unwatchable with all of the bricked 3's and fouls on drives to the lane. Teams really are hamstrung on the defensive end and you have to have a mega star to get calls. Analytics suck !!!
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    Interesting CP3 Quote about "Mid-range game"

    So, The small ball 5's are better able to show and recover on PnR? so, would the Grizz have fired better by playing Clarke and Tillman more and JV less?
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    Interesting CP3 Quote about "Mid-range game"

    Anyone watching the Jazz-Clippers series? If so, what are the Clips doing on D that is holding the Jazz to under 120 pts/gm?
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    Interesting CP3 Quote about "Mid-range game"

    I never said the Jazz won because of mid-range game. I said they way the Grizz defended the PnR was not working because the "Drop D" strategy was a product of the analytics that said give up the mid-range. But you are correct, the Grizz did the Drop- D strategy and couldn't defend the 3. The Jazz swung the ball after they drove the lane rather than take mid-range shots. either way, the Passer was never pressured, and it was killing the Grizz. They couldn't guard the 3 because after the PnR, their scramble D was horrendous. There were times during the season when the Grizz players were picking each other on the PnR. Literally, when the players tried to go under the screen, the other Grizz defender would literally be in the way and effectively picked his teammate on the PnR. No way can they justify that strategy as a pro team. Real Washington General level defense.
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    Interesting CP3 Quote about "Mid-range game"

    There was nothing ever wrong with mid-range shots, especially if you can hit them. Analytics said stop trying to hit them and shoot more 3's, a lower percentage shot. I assure you there are more players in the league that can hit mid-range shots than "logo 3's". Teams are adjusting on the fly now because it was dumb to go the way from the mid-range game in the first place. There is a place for understanding shot selection efficiency and such, but its a leap too far to try and make every player on the floor a 3 point shooter, when there are so many other ways to build a good team with players with other skill sets and ways to score.
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    Interesting CP3 Quote about "Mid-range game"

    Analytics ignores one vital cog in the game, the personnel on the roster. It doesn't matter that if 3's are more efficient than 2's if you don't have the shooters to hit 3's consistently enough. In reality, in order for the analytics to be meaningful, you need shooters like Dame , Steph, Mitchell, KD and Harden. They can only be on 1 team at a time. The Grizz have good to great shooters , especially if the team is playing ball with any common sense. They had two or 3 players that hit 3's over 40% (Dieng was cut). They had the leading rookie 3 point shooter. That is more than enough shooting. They also had players like Ja, Melton, Winslow, Clarke, and KA that were hitting drives in the lane. They led the league in paint scoring and fast break scoring. They had a complete team, if but they didn't try to shoot 20 3's a game. That's 12-14 wasted shots/possession a game (they hit like 35% of their 3's). Couple that with flawed defense against good teams (they lost 34 gms in the reg season and they were 2-28 when the other team scored 120 pts, not to mention they lost every game against the Jazz when the Jazz scored 120 pts) and you get what happened to this team. Any other year, a team that lead the league in paint scoring and fast break points is near the top of their conference. Not in the age of analytics. If they actually played the PnR by observing what was going on and making the common sense play rather than doubling down on analytics when it obviously was not the play for that moment.
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    Interesting CP3 Quote about "Mid-range game"

    I noted that Mitchell was the best player on the floor in that series. Gobert is a DPOY, But, the depth the Grizz, a strength all year, was neutralized by how Jenkins shrunk the rotation. By taking Clarke and Winslow out for Allen and JV (when clearly JV was too limited to get that much playing time, especially considering he wasn't scoring and rebounding against Gobert like he was in the regular season), the talent of the Grizz wasn't fully utilized. I didn't say the Grizz were as talented, just not that much less talented (not to get "gentlemen's swept" by a Jazz team that relies on 3's so heavily). All year, the Grizz counter acted other teams' talent advantages with their depth. The problem in the Playoffs is that the inexperience of Jenkins was exposed. Winslow was a better option against Clarkson and they need to trap the PnR , not "drop" against it. Clarke and Tillman would have been better options than JV against the PnR. Again, I am not saying the Grizz should have won the series, there was no answer on the Grizz for Mitchell, but it should have been more competitive, which would have given the Grizz more confidence going into the off season and more data about what to do with Winslow.
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    The future of the Grizzlies - next step

    Did they say anything about the coaching?
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    Memphis Grizzlies @ Utah Jazz - 6/2/21

    Thank you !!! This series loss was on coaching, not talent on the floor. Jenkins could not figure out an effective strategy against the PnR and a rotation that didn't expose the team defensive deficiencies so much. With depth being a strength all year, why shorten the rotation to include the most defensively vulnerable players on the team? Tillman, Clarke, Winslow were all better defensively than JV and Allen. to keep JV in Allen n the rotation, they would both need to be score 25/gm to make up for their defensive limitations when they were on the floor. They did not. Coaching left a lot to be desired during the playoffs.
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    Memphis Grizzlies @ Utah Jazz - 6/2/21

    They are so close to beating this team, they can taste it. Just inexperience down the stretch is getting to them. Unless they drastically change their approach to defending the high PnR, I don't see them winning, unless Utah just goes cold from 3, but they can't can't count on that.
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    Memphis Grizzlies @ Utah Jazz - 6/2/21

    No, purely speculative on my part. I have heard the announcers talk about "nagging" injuries he has had this year, but nothing specific.
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    Memphis Grizzlies @ Utah Jazz - 6/2/21

    I think BC is injured, but tried to play through. He will probably have some sort of surgery in the off season and comeback next year good to go (I hope).
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    Memphis Grizzlies @ Utah Jazz - 6/2/21

    One nugget of hope. Utah was up 3-1 on Denver last year in the 1st round and lost. So a collapse by them isn't out of the question.
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    Memphis Grizzlies @ Utah Jazz - 6/2/21

    The crazy thing At his point, why not. JV is just a bad matchup with the Jazz for what they do. You could see it last night. Utah would make their runs when JV was in the game. He doesn't provide enough scoring and rebounding to justify his minutes at this point. I agree that Jenkins won't do it though. He's gonna die on the sword of JV.
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    Utah Jazz @ Memphis Grizzlies - 5/31/21

    Thank You !!!!
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    Utah Jazz @ Memphis Grizzlies - 5/31/21

    That is precisely the problem. This drop coverage on PnR hasn't worked all year and is killing the Grizz in this series. When ever the Jazz made their runs, it was because they were putting JV in the high PnR action. He's dropping and giving the guard open 3's or wide open lanes to pass out to spot up shooters. It maybe coaching, but the coaches maybe saying JV can't hedge the guards in the PnR action, so he has to drop. At any rate, its an ineffective strategy. Its really High school level ball being executed expertly by the Jazz. Yet, the Grizz are doing nothing to stop it.
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    Utah Jazz @ Memphis Grizzlies - 5/31/21

    Yeah, I have noted several times the Jazz were are good team, but they can be beat. Quinn Snyder has said repeatedly that they shoot 3's, they have no plan B. Leaving JV in to repeatedly get victimized in the high PnR is freeing up their shooters for 3's. Its not rocket science. Yes, the Grizz are young, but the talent level between these two teams is about even. The difference has been experience and coaching. Do you think this Grizz squad would be down 3-1 to this Jazz team if they were coached by Nate McMillan, Monte Williams or Ty Lue, all were available when the Grizz hired Jenkins. SMH.
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    Utah Jazz @ Memphis Grizzlies - 5/31/21

    Regular season stat padded against weak teams. When they played good teams, they regularly gave up 120 -130 pts. They lost 34 games in the regular season and they were like 2-27 when they gave up more than 120 pts. When they played good teams, they stunk it up on the defensive end, "defensive efficiency" stats mean nothing.
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    Utah Jazz @ Memphis Grizzlies - 5/31/21

    I have never been impressed with Jenkins as a coach of this team. He is not a good defensive coach, and he is bad at setting rotations for personnel.
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    Utah Jazz @ Memphis Grizzlies - 5/31/21

    Gobert scored 15 pts in the 3rd, while JV was playing him. When JJJ was playing Gobert in the 2nd, he got into foul trouble and had to sit out. With JV's defensive deficiencies, he needs to get 20/10 to be worth playing him more than bench minutes.
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    Utah Jazz @ Memphis Grizzlies - 5/31/21

    Gentleman's sweep. The Grizz just couldn't stop the Jazz on the defensive end.
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    Utah Jazz @ Memphis Grizzlies - 5/31/21

    JV played too many minutes. The Jazz are good, but they can be beat. Jenkins is not he coach for this team. I can't believe that The Grizz hired a rookie coach to coach a rebuilding team.
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    Utah Jazz @ Memphis Grizzlies - 5/31/21

    41 pt 3rd qtr for the Jazz. The Grizz don't defend well, I don't care what a regular season "defensive efficiency" stat says. They score just fine, they just don't defend worth anything. They will lose this series not because the Jazz are so much better than them, they just have to go and commit to being a defensive tam and come up with a better scheme. Left JV in too long and the Jazz capitalized on it. JV should not come back in the game. It should be JJJ and Tillman the rest of the way at the 5.
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    Utah Jazz @ Memphis Grizzlies - 5/31/21

    The Jazz are up at the half precisely because they put JV in the High pick and roll action at the end of the 2nd qtr and hit 3's because of it. It is almost suicide to keep allowing JV to be put in the PnR action. Also, no way should GA be guarding Mitchell. Let bane or Melton do it when Brooks sits out.
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    Utah Jazz @ Memphis Grizzlies - 5/31/21

    I agree that Gobert and the Utah PnR is exposing JV, and he shouldn't be allowed to play so many minutes with the limitations he has on D. In another series against another team, JV could be dominant. It's just a bad matchup for him against Utah. No shame in making an adjustment to say JV could run with the second unit and allow JJJ and X to try and show better on the guards in the PnR action. I like Bane at the 2, Dillon at the 3 and Kyle at the 4 and JJJ at the 5 in the starting lineup. That is much better defensive unit against their starters. The issue is that what the Grizz did in the regular season did not work against the Jazz. The Jazz ate them alive in the high PnR in all 3 regular season games. JV in that action is a non-starter if they want to win this series (which I believe they can). Utah has no plan B. If they can't get clean looks at 3's from that High PnR, they lose. That is all they can and will do. They've been successful with it, so why change? But, the high PnR can be defended better than what the Grizz have been doing. That dropping the big and wanting the guard go over the screener is not working. Why not show on the guard and float in the weak side passing lane for the kick out pass or roll with the rolling big man to the basket? There must be an adjustment, JV in the action is just delaying the inevitable.
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