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    With The 4th Pick In The 2018 NBA Draft

    The only way I want to see JJJ drafted is if we are actually trading down.
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    With The 4th Pick In The 2018 NBA Draft

    So many NBA pundits say "Best Player Available", but every year they show "team needs" on the screen. So which is it?
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    With The 4th Pick In The 2018 NBA Draft

    In other words, he's dropping like a rock and hope the Grizz save him. This is not a good pick.
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    With The 4th Pick In The 2018 NBA Draft

    You can look at the draft history and it is replete with similar examples. That's why there are conspiracy theories. I thought about doing a chart of distance between #1 pick teams and their pick's college and/or place of birth since the lottery to illustrate this. Or, when New Orleans got the #1 pick the year after Katrina. There is just waaaaay too much karma with the #1 pick in the NBA lottery.
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    With The 4th Pick In The 2018 NBA Draft

    Is this the thread we're going to hang out during this draft?
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    How Do You Feel?

    I can understand a lot of the nervousness being expressed, but I am 100% optimistic. Because the future hasn't been written yet. There have been drafts when we've done absolutely nothing, and drafts when we've done quite a bit of maneuvering, but rarely has the team done exactly what most were expecting. It's been a long time since we've been this high in the draft. The NBA draft, still the most exciting draft by far, IMO. That alone opens a lot of possibilities. Even the sun shines on a dog's *** some days. Now, I can remember plenty of drafts where a certain player I was very high on was on the board, and then the Grizzlies would make an out of left field pick that seemed to make little sense (and turned out to actually make little sense once the season started). Then I'd be here raging on the boards for days. THAT's the time for pessimism. But every once in a while we pull a Rudy Gay or O.J. Mayo trade. Regardless of how you felt about those moves one way or the other, you've got to admit many of us were all smiling the next day, because we did something that excited the sports world, and if they believed, why shouldn't we? There is a part of me that wants to believe that all this talk about #4 and Parsons on the trade block is a sign that we could be real wheelers and dealers on draft night. What better way for Pera to celebrate staying at the helm? It's his house, he might as well throw a party.
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    Trade Likely Coming for Draft

    From my view, Bagley has all the goods. The only thing that makes me leery is he's a Blue Devil. Has there been a stronger college program with as many underperformers at the pro level against expectations as Duke?
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    Trade Likely Coming for Draft

    Bird in the hand. Brooks showed this past season he has the potential to be a core piece. The only reason you give up Brooks now, before you've even seen his 2nd year growth, is to get an established player who is going to significantly move the needle with your team.
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    CW- Front office direction

    Now, honestly - I think "plans" are overblown, and are only understood in hindsight. We didn't plan to become Grit n' Grind. That's just where the moves took us, because the moves to create that "core 4" just happened to work out for the team. I have said more than once that the most criminal thing about the 3-year plan is that it appeared to work as stated, when all it really was was a snake oil way to sell the fanbase on accepting a losing team for multiple seasons while we cut bait. Nobody can guarantee how long a team will languish in the basement before getting better. Nobody. You don't just will talent to the table, because you have a time frame to meet. You don't forge an identity among a particular mix of players, just because we said we'd only accept losing for so long. Somebody said earlier that part of CW's plan last draft was to draft a couple of good players. Well, gee whiz, if it's that simple why is our roster in such disarray right now? At this point, our plan is to keep moving pieces around and hope something clicks. If we keep the #4 and draft a bonafide star with it, get fortunate that Brooks makes a leap forward next season, then maybe we have the beginnings of the next core. Again, "plans" aren't long term, really. If we draft our #4, and he has the goods, and Brooks improves, but we are still losing, have no hope for the playoffs, can't get fans in the seats, in just half a season what appears to be unthinkable today for our F.O. will become imperative - the jettisoning of Gasol & Conley. But that's a lot of ifs. If we're selling tickets and heading to the playoffs, we're likely to stand completely pat at the trade deadline, at a time when some fans will be clamoring for us to make a move.
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    Trade Likely Coming for Draft

    I could live with this deal if we could move Parsons as part of it. While I have been pretty adamant about keeping the #4 pick no matter what, anything we do at this point becomes a gamble with some risk. Unless we got Bagley with that 4, I would be intrigued with getting Knox at 7. He brings that offensive capability we'd be looking for. And, he's on an upward trajectory in the workouts, indicating he could be a better pro than folks anticipated. This also assumes that with the opening in our cap space, we would try to go out and sign or trade for a solid rotation player, perhaps even two if we find the right combo/price point. We don't have great history adding through FA, but we've also landed a few. But then again, we don't have a great draft history either, so again, everything is a gamble. Getting the Parsons albatross off our necks immediately is worth thinking about, if the idea is to get back into the playoff picture immediately with Gasol/Conley still around.
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    With The 4th Pick In The 2018 NBA Draft

    They may only be thinking about next year because we're kind of in "next year or bust" mode. I think it would be logical to assume that if our pick this year helps get us back to the playoffs, that means he's good enough beyond his rookie season as well. As of this moment in time, the Grizzlies' best chance at being competitive for a playoff spot while at the same time working on improving their roster overall to be competitive for years to come, is that they get a big that is a great pick, and that Dillon Brooks takes a leap forward in year 2, at least showing that he's good for the long haul, so that we have two long term building blocks in the starting lineup. At this rate, I don't see Conley having any more injury free seasons left in him. So the next order of business will be finding the PG of the future to groom behind him. And between those 3 players - Brooks, whoever we draft 4th in a week, and whoever becomes Conley's heir apparent - however good they are together, they are the next "core" of this team. Gasol would just be the "grand old man" of the team in his final years, the respected vet. Those 3 guys will either be good enough to take us into the next iteration of playoff-caliber Grizzlies, or we will struggle to win with them while we continue to take our shots in the lottery each season. So we need two home runs, basically. That's where we are at.
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    With The 4th Pick In The 2018 NBA Draft

    Right. It's not like ESPN isn't invested in making people think this is a must watch draft night.
  13. if it means getting a superstar, I can live with the problems they bring.
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    With The 4th Pick In The 2018 NBA Draft

    If we were to trade down - given how a #4 pick is an easy "hope" sell - that would be the most ballsy thing Chris Wallace has ever done. I wouldn't like it. But it would take guts.
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    With The 4th Pick In The 2018 NBA Draft

    I doubt it. We aren't savvy enough to turn it into a big win for us. And it's a lot easier to sell the hope of a high draft pick to a fan base than a known quantity...unless someone's willing to part with a legit star for that pick...which they won't. Chicago beat writers have low opinions of the Grizzlies anyway, so it doesn't surprise me they'd pick us to feel hopeless here. A little further down in that same article, it talks about Bamba really showing something in workouts. Who knows, maybe by draft night I will be convinced...but it also says he may be moving up into the top 3, so it may be moot. I really think Bagley's gonna be our guy, one way or the other...
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    With The 4th Pick In The 2018 NBA Draft

    Multiple sources bring up the motor questions. don't tell me I'm making stuff up.
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    With The 4th Pick In The 2018 NBA Draft

    His crime is that he is a Thabeet clone. If you're going to play this kind of game, you'd better have the muscle and the heart to truly impact the game defensively. I don't mean these high volume blocks in college where you will get them just for being freakishly long and tall, where you can get blocks from the weak side that you don't have to shed somebody bodying you up to do it. I can only think of two post players who were poor offensively but great defensively that were good enough to impact this league in the last 25 years, and that's Mutumbo and Ben Wallace - and Wallace just happened to find a home. Other than those Piston years, he was an NBA nomad. For that matter, Mutumbo played for a ton of teams too, despite his defensive dominance. If someone can convince me that Bamba will play the game like either of these two guys, instead of the countless tall, skinny, can't hit the broad side of a barn players who have bounced out of this league with nothing to show for it, then I will take back what I said. But even then, I still wouldn't want us to draft him. We have drafted too many offensive liabilities.
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    With The 4th Pick In The 2018 NBA Draft

    Poor offense. Motor questions. Everyone expects him to make his name on defense because of his size and wingspan, but if he doesn't know what he's doing and doesn't have the heart to learn it, what good is he? And the assumption is the rest will come, but you "have" to take him due to his upside. No, you don't. That was Thabeeet. I haven't heard that Soccer is Bamba's favorite sport and he's playing basketball only because people told him he'd get paid doing it, but other than that, it's the same story.
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    With The 4th Pick In The 2018 NBA Draft

    Understood. I am going by the draft boards I've been seeing and remaining hopeful, but I think by draft night, if we get him he will be seen as falling to us. I don't always get the stars right, but I am pretty good about calling the busts, so I am on the "anyone but Porter" train right now. It's kind of amazing to me because this is deja vu all over again - there were a number of people on the boards back in the day who were enthusiastic(!) about drafting Thabeet, and I was saying "NOOOOOOOOOOOO!" in every post. Like, trying to be the loudest voice in the room that he was bad news. I kind of feel that way about Porter - I see we have no business drafting him, but then people are like "hey, he's a good option". He's not. He's not. He's not. Now, honestly, I don't think he has quite the bust potential that Thabeet had. If that title belongs to anyone in this draft, it's Mo Bamba. Mo actually reminds me a lot of Thabeet. I will actually agree that Porter could have a decent NBA career. But I think it's way more of a long shot due to the type of injury he had. Let somebody else take that chance. Because sure enough, if we roll that set of dice, we'll come up snake eyes. It's just what we do.
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    With The 4th Pick In The 2018 NBA Draft

    We definitely need a home run here, and I wish Porter all the best, but we cannot take on that risk, I don't care what his ceiling is. If you folks want to gamble, go to the casino. There will be plenty of star material picks at that spot. I reiterate that I think Bagley is a great fit and that's who I am hoping for. He could be Joakim Noah with even better athleticism. He should be a difference maker very quickly, and will pair well with Gasol as he comes to his final years. Folks who think Porter is an easy choice must be secretly sporting a death wish for this franchise. Or are more enamoured with what could happen over what is most likely to happen. Back injuries, spinal injuries in particular, never heal 100% and are usually degenerative for athletes. Bagley (or others) give us a chance to stay a playoff team for a few more years while we try to create what we will be after Gasol/Conley. If we take Porter and he whiffs, we will be in the cellar for years to come. If we take ANYONE that whiffs, same story. But drafting Porter is just asking for it.
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    With The 4th Pick In The 2018 NBA Draft

    If we are 4th, I'm all in on Bagley and hope somebody doesn't get cute ahead of us. But I could also see him moving ahead of the guys projected at 2nd or 3rd. That's who we should draft. But my prediction is that Wallace will draft Michael Porter, Jr, because that's a Chris Wallace special with fries. Extremely highly recruited out of high school, with some health concerns. That always seems to get CW salivating, for some reason. And if he does, it will be a mistake almost as big as Thabeet, and dare I say, even more costly this time. That's my "best of times, worst of times" prediction.
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    Erin Popovich Dies

    Erin Popovich, wife of Spurs coach Gregg Popovich, dies at 67 Man, people die, famous people die, we all die. Normally, I don't get choked up at "celebrity" deaths, but I just find myself feeling quite sad at the thought of Gregg Popovich losing his spouse. The breadth of support he is getting doesn't change the grief one iota, I'm sure, and he'll never know this was put here. But I felt it right to post it all the same.
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    It's the Final Countdown!!!

    I think we'll be picking 3rd. Moving along...
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    2018 NBA Draft Thread

    Bagley is a pick I could be excited about, but history says that Duke players are less likely to become stars, and we really need a breakout player with this pick, somebody who after a few years could be a top 3 guy on a lot of teams. But he does exhibit a passion for the game. Raw talent potential seems to overshadow motors in the evaluation process in the NBA. Where I see motors as fueling potential.
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    2018 NBA Draft Thread

    All this trade down talk is just game playing. Depth comes later and is a dime a dozen. We need a star. We ain't getting one at #15. Heck, history says we have trouble getting them at #2.