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Silver said that a December restart was looking very unlikely but nothing has been ruled out yet.

We have to remember that Lowry was also traded by Houston. Sometimes players mature from those experiences, other times they collapse. Clearly Lowry matured but would he have evolved if he hadn’t been traded twice? I don’t think that can be answered.

Seven players picked 40th or later in the history of the draft... Those aren’t exactly great odds for finding a diamond in the rough.

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Brandon has a great rookie season and I’m sure everyone is excited about his potential to improve going forward.

https://bealestreetbears.com/2020/08/30/jjj-worth-risk/ Should the Grizzlies be contemplaiting trading Jaren Jackson Jr now before his injuries start piling up to make it difficult to trade him later? Teams would likely be offering a lot for Jackson this fall with a perceived weak draft.

The pick is protected from such an outcome. The pick only comes to Memphis if it falls between 8-14.

What makes you believe the Grizzlies need to move up in next year's draft? I don't know if the Grizzlies won't be in the lottery next season without giving up draft picks to get there personally. I also don't know if Utah's pick won't be high as well.

Well if the Grizzlies make this trade they could pick up Obi Toppin and start him at the PF position.

IS anyone interested in trading Justise Winslow and Jaren Jackson Jr for Zach Levine and the #4 pick in the draft? The trade works according to ESPN's Trade Machine. http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y3e64zap At #4 the Grizzlies could get Wiseman or Obi Toppen at 4 and that could add defense, interior offense, rebounding and possibly even replace some of Jaren's 3 point shooting. And before people start screaming about JJJ's potential and how the Grizzlies can't trade him, I didn't write this blog.

Just trying to get conversation going on a trade that even you would have to say the Grizzlies won. Consider it a Danny Ainge idea. Of course a lot of JJJ fans think the Grizzlies would be giving up too much as JJJ has the highest upside in their eyes and WInslow is better than Otto Porter when healthy and it's not like Porter has been the healthiest player in the league either. He played a grand total of 14 games last season. The Bulls may want Coby White to get more PT as the SG, Dunn as the PG, WInslow at SF, Jackson at PF and Markkanen at center which will really open the court and give you three players who can assist, 3 who can hit consistently from the perimeter and good size along the front line.

It’s a risk to trade any player for someone another team didn’t want as much as they wanted your player. The question boils down to do you believe the FO is competent enough to improve the team with the risk or not? Personally I don’t see Lavine as a team killer and I love the idea of a player’s coach like Taylor getting an Uber-talented young player. Not thst Jackson isn’t talented as well but he isn’t a ball dominant player who can create his own shots down the stretch. Morant can do this. Brooks believes he can although I believe most people on the boards don’t agree. Having two players who can create their own offense is needed in today’s game. Consider assists. Lavine averaged 4.2 APG last season despite being the lead scorer on the Bulls roster. Dillon Brooks and Jaren Jackson combined averaged 3.5 APG last season. In Taylor’s offense passing is needed to spread the court. Lavine and Morant could be better suited in Taylor’s offense as willing passers. This is just an idea but imagine a lineup with Morant, Lavine, Anderson, Clarke and JV. That’s three good to greet passers, two solid rebounders, perimeter shooting would be a question but Morant may improve and Anderson showed growth in the bubble. You’d still have Dillon Brooks, Allen, Dieng and Tolliver who can stretch the court coming off the bench plus the fourth pick in the draft who could be a SF like Deni Avidjia or a PF like Obi Toppin.

Zach Levine is not someone who's ceiling is 6th man of the year. Levine averaged 25 PPG last season. He's been an All-Star and my idea (which you can comment on in Trade Talk for those interested) includes Chicago's first round pick (#4 overall) in the draft. I didn't start this trade idea. I merely posted someone else's article also.

The TV viewership was down long before the boycott.

Oh I posted the trade idea there. I posted the article about a Grizzlies player here.

Possibly but I didn’t say it.

Who said they are shopping him? I didn’t. I simply suggested he and the 4th pick in this draft for Jackson and Winslow is at least worth discussing. This is a discussion board after all.

He may at that but that isn’t a reason to not pursue ideas to improve the team.

Versus keeping him for two more years and have him walk to LA in free agency? Seriously, if you are thinking JJJ is headed to LA once he’s able to go then it makes a lot of sense to trade him now rather than wait until everyone knows the Grizz have to trade him or worse pull a Wallace and lose him for nothing.

You don't believe a team wouldn't be willing to get rid of a player who's add a serious knee injury and who is, in your words, not a winner and who just puts up stats on a bad team for a 20 year Unicorn who still has room to develop and a second starter talent? You can't have it both ways. Either Levine is a stat stuffer who only gets numbers on a bad team or he is better than JJJ and Winslow. Unless of course you believe JJJ and Winslow are worse than a stat stuffer who only gets numbers on bad teams. If that is the case why shouldn't the Grizzlies be shopping them both? Finally, how exactly does someone win a trade, like your example of Danny Ainge does in Boston, if they aren't trying to acquire players who are worth more than what you are offering?

I don't know if this is true in fact but it is certainly true in theory. I haven't heard of any trades that failed to go through because the Grizzlies couldn't offer a future first round pick until after 2023 but it would make sense that if a trade required such a pick that the Grizzlies would struggle to fulfill that requirement . Personally I think trading first round picks that come do years from now is playing with dynamite. Twice now the Grizzlies have lost lottery picks due to trades made years earlier where the player involved was no longer on the team. It cost the Grizzlies a shot at Carmello Anthony the first time and this time it cost the Grizzlies the 14th pick which could be Precious Achiuwa or someone else who could be a solid NBA player.

I don't see how putting something in complete context is being the Sunshine Patrol. You claim Drew Gooden was a mistake. That's possibly true but it is also true that Drew Gooden got Mike Miller to Memphis (via a trade of the #4 pick in the draft no less). Sometimes it isn't a bad thing to discuss trades for a highly regarded player at that time. Wouldn't you agree that the real mistake would have been to hold onto Drew to see if he would develop and not pursue the trade?

But Gooden got traded early in his career and that brought Mike Miller to Memphis.

I don’t know but I’ll look. Of course the premise is to win the trade and improve the team not do as well as other teams isn’t it! 😉 The Nets have Jarrett Allen and DeAndre Jordan both averaging over 9 rebounds But they don’t start together. Milwaukee has Giannis at 13 and Middleton at 7.8. Just under your threshold. The Mavs have Porzingis and Doncic both over 9 boards and both starting. Memphis’ second best rebounder among their starters was Jae Crowder at 6.2. Since he is no longer on the team that makes Jaren at 4.6 RPG second best. I suspect the team could handle having a bit more rebounding among the starting five. So far you’ve argued that the Grizzlies shouldn’t look to trade Jaren because opposing GMs would offer nothing for him, that there weren’t any decent players available to trade with, that Zach Levine is both too good and not good enough for Jaren in a trade and that getting more rebounding isn’t a good thing. What’s your next excuse for not looking into trades for Jaren?

No harm in asking. Trying to get a win for the Grizzlies. Earlier you said Levine wasn’t good enough. Now he’s too good. With that mindset it is difficult to see a trade being done.