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Grizzlies Gametime Discussion Date/Time: Tuesday, November 19, 7:00 PM Memphis Grizzlies vs Golden State Warriors Location: FedEx Forum, Memphis TN Television: NBALP | Fox Sports South Memphis Radio: 92.9FM | 680AM Promotions: Health Night presented by BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee Grizz Social: Grizzlies Starting 5 Ja Morant Dillon Brooks Jae Crowder Jaren Jackson Jr Jonas Valanciunas Warriors Starting 5 Alec Burks Glenn Robinson III Eric Paschall Draymond Green Willie Cauley-Stein  Benches Memphis Grizzlies: Grayson Allen, Kyle Anderson, Bruno Caboclo, Brandon Clarke, Marco Guduric, Solomon Hill, Tyus Jones, John Konchar (2), D'Anthony Melton, Yuta Watanabe (2) Golden State: Ky Bowman, Marquese Chris, Stephan Curry (INJ), Jacob Evans, Damian Lee, Kevon Looney, Jordan Poole, D'Angelo Russell (INJ), Alen Smailagic, Omari Spellman, Klay Thompson (INJ) Grizzlies: Preview | Recap | News | Roster | Stats | Schedule | Photos | Video | Tickets | Promotions | Watch Parties Warriors: Preview | News | Roster | Stats | Schedule | Photos | Video | Depth Charts: CBS | ESPN | Yahoo Injuries: CBS | ESPN | FOX | Yahoo Preview: The Grizzlies have gone 4-3 since opening the season with five losses in their first six games. Over that recent seven-game stretch, Memphis ranks third in the NBA in assists per game (29.4) and is tied for fifth in three-point field goal percentage (.401). The Grizzlies have matched a franchise record by making at least 10 three-pointers in seven consecutive games. They are coming off a week in which they set season highs for threes made (17 on Nov. 13 at Charlotte) and attempted (36 on Nov. 17 vs Denver). Grizzlies reserve forward Brandon Clarke is off to a historic start to his rookie season. Clarke scored a career-high 19 points on 8-of-8 shooting, including knocking down a pair of threes, in Sunday’s home loss to Denver. It marked the second time this month that Clarke posted a perfect shooting percentage while taking at least seven shots. He is one of just three players in NBA history to take at least seven shots without a miss in multiple games as a rookie, joining Arvydas Sabonis and Buck Williams. When Dillon Brooks scores at a high level, the Grizzlies are difficult to beat. Memphis is 4-0 this season when Brooks scores at least 20 points, and has dropped every game when he’s below that mark. The third-year starting shooting guard is averaging 21.6 points on .513 percent shooting in 32.5 minutes per game in the Grizzlies’ five wins. In the team’s eight losses, Brooks is averaging just 8.3 points on .289 percent shooting in 23.3 minutes a game. He’s scored in double figures in six of nine games this month. The Warriors have posted one of the most dominant stretches in NBA history by winning three championships and five straight appearances in the NBA Finals the past five years. But attrition and injuries have delivered a devastating blow this season. The Warriors arrive in Memphis with the NBA’s worst record and on a seven-game losing streak, their longest since 2012. During a three-game stretch last week, the Warriors didn’t have a single player available who was part of last year’s playoff rotation. The Grizzlies list guard Grayson Allen (ankle soreness) as out for Tuesday’s game against the Warriors. Allen has been sidelined since Nov. 2. For the Warriors, Steph Curry (wrist), Klay Thompson (knee), D’Angelo Russell (thumb), Kevon Looney (Neuropathy), Damion Lee (hand), Jacob Evans (hip) and Alen Smailagic (knee) are out against the Grizzlies.

Grizzlies Gametime Discussion Date/Time: Saturday, November 23, 7:00 PM Memphis Grizzlies vs L A Lakers Location: FedEx Forum, Memphis TN Television: NBALP | Fox Sports South Memphis Radio: 92.9FM | 680AM Promotions: Grizz Social: Grizzlies Starting 5 Ja Morant Dillon Brooks Jae Crowder Jaren Jackson Jonas Valanciunas Lakers Starting 5 LeBron James Kentavius Caldwell-Pope Danny Green Anthony Davis Javale McGee Benches Memphis Grizzlies: Grayson Allen (INJ), Kyle Anderson, Bruno Cabloco, Brandon Clarke, Marco Guduric, Solomon Hill, Tyus Jones, John Konchar (2), De'Anthony Melton, Yuta Watanabe (2), Los Angeles: Kastos Antetokounempo, Avery Bradley (INJ), Alex Caruso, Quinn Cook, DeMarcus Cousins (INJ), Troy Daniels, Jared Dudley, Taylen Horton-Tucker, Dwight Howard, Kyle Kuzma (INJ), Zach Norvell, Rajon Rondo Grizzlies: Preview | Recap | News | Roster | Stats | Schedule | Photos | Video | Tickets | Promotions | Watch Parties Lakers: Preview | News | Roster | Stats | Schedule | Photos | Video | Depth Charts: CBS | ESPN | Yahoo Injuries: CBS | ESPN | FOX | Yahoo

Well that sucked.

I agree it has not and is not but doubt it never will.

I couldn’t agree more

Sorry

I think I misunderstood your definition of “legit star.” What you are describing GM are high scorers on my definition. There are lots of players who can be a high scorer on a bad team but that doesn’t make them “legit stars” by my definition. The Grizzlies don’t need to develop 2-3 scorers on a bad team. They need to develop two legit stars who would be stars on any team they played on. Conley is an example of a player who is a legit star. He was a star on a good teAm, a bad team and now another good team.

Grizzlies Gametime Discussion  Memphis Grizzlies vs Denver Nuggets Date/Time: Sunday, Nov 17, 5:00 PM Location: FedEx Forum, Memphis, TN Television: NBALP | Fox Sports South Memphis Radio: 92.9FM | 680AM Promotions: None  Grizz Social:   Grizzlies Starting 5 Ja Morant  Dillon Brooks Jae Crowder Jaren Jackson Jonas Valanciunas Nuggets Starting 5 Jamal Murray Gary Harris Will Barton Paul Milsap Nikola Jokic Benches Memphis: Grayson Allen (INJ), Kyle Anderson, Bruno Caboclo, Brandon Clarke, Marco Guduric, Solomon Hill, Tyus Jones, John Konchar (2), De'Anthony Melton, Yuta Watanabi (2), Denver: Malik Beasley, Bol Bol (2), Vlatko Cancar, Tyler Cook (2), Torey Craig, P J Dozier, Jerami Grant, Juancho Hernangomez, Monte Harris, Mason Plumlee, MIchael Porter Jr, Jarred Vanderbilt Grizzlies: Preview | Recap | News | Roster | Stats | Schedule | Photos | Video | Tickets | Promotions | Watch Parties Nuggets: Preview | Recap | News | Roster | Stats | Schedule | Photos | Video | Tickets Depth Charts: CBS | ESPN | Yahoo Injuries: CBS | ESPN | FOX | Yahoo

There are numerous unwritten rules of the boards that older posters know but some of the more inexperienced posters (and there will be many more now that the team has Ja Morant and Brandon Clarke) haven't learned yet. Instead of allowing them to make these posting faux pas only to get chastised and called out here is an ever expanding list. Feel free to add any other unwritten rules I may have forgotten. Never mention the previous #2 picks in Grizzlies history. Especially any #2 pick over 7 feet tall. It is fair game to criticize any current or previous Grizzlies head coach but never mention Marc Aivaroni. Rivalries will always change but you can never speak favorably of Chris Paul, Blake Griffin and especially Nick Young. Never speak ill of the Godfather The Allen Iverson era never happened. It didn't. No matter what you see on Basketball Reference. Never mention the Clippers playoff comeback. NEVER! Never p1ss off the mods. Especially after you have been warned. Never post "we got this one" before a game is over. Again, feel free to add to this list.

What makes you believe Jaren is a legit star? Alt Grind didn't have him in his top picks for the draft after all. Let's look at the facts. Jaren has a 102.9 Off rating (10th among sophomore starting forwards). He has a 116.3 Def Rating (11th among sophomore starting forwards. That's a net -13.4 rating which places him 10th among sophomore starting forwards. That is a pretty small subset too. We aren't talking about all forwards or all sophomores or all starters but simply all starting forwards in their second year in the league. If you rank Jaren against starting forwards in the league he has an offensive rating that ranks him 100th in the league. His defensive rating against other starting forwards puts him at 115th in the league. I believe the franchise needs a second star to pair with Ja. Jackson hasn't shown me a lot yet. If I had to put Jackson in one of your categories I'd put him in the high level role players camp.

Precious seems like a reach to me.

No and Yes. No I wouldn't offer that trade and yes Dallas would laugh at anyone who tried.

Any ideas on who fits that description?

First, I don't care about your draft board. It hasn't been close to accurate on either the players talents or the order of the players being drafted. Please stop peddling your draft board into every conversation as if it means anything. It doesn't especially not when discussing multi year tank jobs. Second, your comment was that you are hoping the team conveys the pick to Boston this summer (i.e. not finish in the bottom 6) so the team can tank next season instead. This is a strategy that I as a season ticket holder am vehemently opposed to. I believe it is more important to get a star potential player this summer to add to Ja, Jaren, Dillon and Brandon. The team can lose games with a young team for only so long before fans start tuning out the team. By the way, the team isn't batting 1000 since they already waived Ivan Rabb who was drafted in the same draft (and with an earlier pick) as Dillon Brooks. As you should be aware of by now, the contract with the city expires in 2027 and has a decreasing buy out clause every year between now and then. To have a lottery bound team consistently over the next 2-3 years is bad enough but to attempt to tank in 2020-21 after consecutive seasons of lottery bound teams would damage the attendance to a point the team could be moved possibly. At worst it would raise the conversation nationally that the team is going to move. It is my humble opinion as someone who pays to watch the team play in person, rather than on TV or not at all, I would prefer the team lose as much as possible this season, get a third super talent and make a run next season and moving forward so Jaren and Dillon and others will want to remain here rather than take their talents to South Beach or somewhere else.

Fixed the typo

Celtics have been patient all through their rebuilding process. I sincerely doubt they will panic now and make a rash move. The Celtics are more than content to continue to add quality players at a cheap price through the draft.

It's a little different when you have to write the check to watch a team consistently tanking. I have been a season ticket holder from day 1. If I have to sit through a bad season to get a top pick and turn things around that is acceptable. If we are talking about sitting thru numerous bad seasons to get the third piece of the puzzle while the clock is ticking on the first piece becoming a free agent then I am against that strategy.

Clearly you aren't a season ticket holder.

Everything will have to be watched 24/7.

I disagree. The Grizzlies are giving him a chance, have the financial space to accept his contract demands next year and will be able to better judge what he's worth by giving him the chance.

That's your opinion. Personally I agree on some issues being damaging to team unity and possibly being a bad influence. I also believe in second chances. Josh is a free agent this summer so I understand if the team feels he earned an opportunity. They can always cut him loose or send him back to the Hustle if he starts to exhibits bad attitudes.

What is your issue with Josh other than taking Marco’ minutes?

Then he needs to improve his play so they don't ask or be happy he's not getting cut since his contract is guaranteed. The team isn't punishing him. He's hurting the team and the team wants him to play better so he stops hurting the rest of the players.