Ole Dirty Klondike

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  1. On 9/5/2019 at 1:14 PM, CoolHandGriz said:

    I'm sorry but nothing I've seen from Jaylen Brown suggests max deal. He's a dam good wing and i'd be excited to have him but he's not in that category of player imo.

    As others have stated i'd rather get Beasley in RFA and/or draft Edwards or Hampton if available. Bogdanovic in Sac would be a reasonable option as well.

    I do think it's a moot point on Brown though. Most accounts have the Celts ponying up for him next year.

    What determines if a player should get a max deal or not? Guys like Chandler Parsons, Wesley Matthews, Otto Porter, Hassan Whiteside, and Enes Kanter have all gotten the max of what they could get. None of them are superstars, heck, not even stars really.  And then you have stars like Conley and Hayward getting max deals but did they "deserve it" based on whatever your criteria is?

    Who should get a max contract varies on a year to year and team to team basis. A player could get a max  one off-season but not the next depending on the market and who is available. A small market land-locked team like Memphis is at a severe disadvantage and will have to overpay and/or take on risks to lure good players away. As far as I remember before Parsons signed, our biggest FA acquisition that exceeded the MLE was Brian friggen Cardinal. TA was the most impactful (and Mighty Mouse to a certain degree but he didn't play many games) but neither exceeded the MLE. Heck, I live in Dallas and they have trouble signing FAs. Dallas is the 4th largest metro area in the U.S. and still growing, the Mavs have won an NBA Championship, there's tons of money here and they can't sign big name FAs to save Cuban's life.  A lot of these players  want to run to the coastal cities (N.Y., L.A., S.F., MIA, BOS, maybe D.C. if they get their stuff together, not so much Portland and Philly is close enough) and date Kardashians and party with strippers on their yachts. As far as cities in the middle, it's Chicago and everybody else. After that, it's a battle for scaps for small and mid sized cities like Memphis, OKC, Utah, Indy, Milwaukee, etc. That's why it's so crucial for us to draft well and hold on to our FA or make savvy trades. Most FAs stay with their teams or head to major markets.If we trade for talent, it will be for someone troubled like Z-Bo.

    With all of that being said, I'm not sure what BOS would offer Brown but he may be one of the best options Memphis could get. Would he stay in BOS for less, maybe, who knows. There's not many options next summer.


  2. 4 minutes ago, smit-tay griz said:

    What is an "Exhibit 10 contract"?

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    An Exhibit 10 contract is a one-year, minimum salary NBA contract with a specific Exhibit 10 attachment built into it and no other bonuses. These attachments are not present in every NBA contract, only deals in which both parties have agreed to include it.

    Exhibit 10 attachments allow the NBA team to convert a player’s one-year, minimum contract into a two-way contract but this has to occur prior to the start of the regular season.

    These one-year deals are often non-guaranteed, which lets NBA teams waive the player and remove their cap hit from the team payroll.

    Exhibit 10 attachments allow players to earn a bonus of $5,000 to $50,000 in the event that they are waived by the NBA team, then sign a deal with that franchise’s G League affiliate* and remain with that affiliate team for 60 days.

    This bonus $5,000 – $50,000 bonus, which does not count against the NBA salary cap, is in addition to the G League salary the player would also collect in this particular scenario. If a player’s Exhibit 10 contract is converted to a two-way deal, the Exhibit 10 bonus converts to guaranteed salary.

    NBA teams may have no more than six players with Exhibit 10 attachments in their contracts on their roster at any given time and these contracts may not be extended or renegotiated.

     


  3. On 7/25/2019 at 4:25 PM, chipc3 said:

    So sad. Can you imagine how Lorenzen felt in his last minutes to know his wife had something to do with his death. Sherra accepted a plea bargain for 30 years with the possibility of parole in nine years. Somehow that doesn't seem right. 

     

    On 7/26/2019 at 3:20 PM, The Stro Show said:

    Nope doesn’t seem right at all man

     

    On 7/26/2019 at 8:59 PM, TonyMassenturd said:

    0 percent chance that she gets out in 9 years. With good behavior, I still believe that she'll do atleast 20 years.

    With her antics since being arrested, I doubt if they'll let her out on parole. It's a long time between now and the parole hearing but she's had what 2 or 3 incidents since being arrested. Not to mention her inconsistent stories. It's hard to say and Memphis has a  history of being lenient on women who kill their husbands (I remember watching some documentary on the History channel awhile back specifically on that topic) but I think she will sevre at least 15 years. She should serve the entire sentence being that she set him up to die not once but at least twice. Also, I assume she would have to pay the insurance company back. Sure she doesn't have any money but I would assume they would want the money back being that she orchestrated the hitm


  4. 32 minutes ago, Allen said:

    I’m assuming Okc is now going to try to trade Paul? 

    4 minutes ago, BigHunkALove said:

    It would be virtually impossible but Faul would love to go to the Fakers I bet with his BFF Bron

    i'm wondering if they would stretch him and waive him but that would be one heck of stretch.

    I don't see him being traded. HOU got beyond lucky because they wanted to get rid of him and I'm sure there were no suitors for his age and salary. This was about the only trade and they lucked up. 


  5. 15 minutes ago, jtp0000 said:

     

    Sounds like Mavs fans wanting to dump CLee

    The Grizzlies' so-far response, DBcom has been told, is that they are unwilling to take on the ballast of Lee's $12.759 million salary in such a deal.

    The Mavs would love to employ Iguodala in the starting lineup or off the bench, where he was so helpful to Golden State during their title run before the Warriors recently salary-dumped him to Memphis.


  6. 11 hours ago, Dwash said:

    The ideal scenario is to develop a 1-2-3 punch with a top 6 pick next year. But there is also development.  It doesnt always take a premium pick to develop a good second/third option. Milwaukee developed Middleton for example. Nets got Lavert, Dinwiddie, Harris. Denver got Harris, Barton and so on. Then after you get some more picks/young players for absorbing assets, you look to make signings like Bodganovic or Brogdon. Or fill out the roster like the Kings did. That would be my plan.

    Dont see why we need to reduce our capspace to pick up contracts with picks attached and lessen our cap space for free agents in 2/3 years just to take a shot at an inefficient scorer like Wiggins.  But I know for a few of you no amount of advanced stats, hometown fan testimony and analytical articles can convince you about how bad if an idea Wiggins is so whatever think its a good idea if you want. I can just be grateful that Im about 99% sure my FO isnt interested (looks like no other FO is as well even though they were handing out capspace money like Halloween candy this offseason).

    I don't disagree with any of that. My issue is simple. We don't have any proven scoring on this roster right now. I really don't care about analytics and not playing defense in this scenario. You wanna know why?.....because we're going to suck next year regardless of what we do and will more than likely suck the year after that as well. There's a good chance that we will have one of the worst 3 records in the league next year. it's a difference between being horrible and being bad yet competitive. With as much cap space as we have next year, there's a good chance, we need to have a bad contract. We can still sign a big contract next year even with WIggins contract on the books because we will have that much space. Me suggesting Wiggins is not to have him as our core. it's to bring him on strictly as a scoring role player for a couple of years, that's it. Similarly to how i suggested we go after Hayward in a Conley trade. i'm just looking for a proven NBA scorer for a year or two, nothing more, nothing less. This team has virtually no proven scorer next year. JV had a nice run of 19 games with us, JJJ and Ja have played a total of 58 NBA games. This team will be really bad next year. All I was saying is add a scorer. It's not going to stop us from signing any big name player next year. Fact is, FA will be bad next year and we have no shot at the best players. I'm just looking for a scorer and  from what I saw, there were really only 3 available-Hayward, Wiggins and Warren. i don't think we can get the other two. We can develop people and do all of the stuff you said, with one bad contract on our books. He's not taking shots from Ja and JJJ. It's well known it's their team. He just needs to score for a year or 2 and then trade him, unless ha makes a dramatic turnaround and helps us win, then keep him. 

    7 hours ago, CoolHandGriz said:

    Dude you’re lobbying to bring in Andrew friggin Wiggins. Just stop already.

    First, I'm not lobbying anyone in particular. I'm looking at different people to add as a scorer. i have mentioned others but people always want to go back and forth on Wiggins. I don't care about Wiggins. I'm trying to get us a scorer. our 2 best returning scorers are JJJ who barely played more than half a season and JV who only played 19 games for us. Ja hasn't even played in summer league. Ja will make players around him better which is why I think getting someone who has a scoring mentality would help the young guys out because Ja will also make tons of mistakes. JJJ was constantly in foul trouble last year, Brooks is really not that good, Josh Jackson is a stone cold weedhead who doesn't care about basketball and makes bonehead out of control plays and there will be many nights when Clarke is overmatached. People can talk about all of this run and gun but if we don't have the right players and we're relying on a rookie, it could be a disaster. Jae Crowder, Kyle Anderson and JV really don't fit a pace and space, run and gun style and those are guys we are relying on as of right now. I don't see eJV or Kyle being traded anytime soon being that JV is about to sign a new deal and Kyle has a 15% trade kicker. We don't have shooters, we only have a handful of guys who can really run the floor and we have a rookie head coach. It has disaster written all over it. 

    All I'm saying is get a proven scorer, simple and plain. i have no faith in Dillon Brooks or Josh Jackson or Kyle Anderson or Tyus Jones or Jae Crowder or anybody else on this roster to be a consistent scorer after JV and JJJ and it's not like I expect either of them to average 20 ppg. We're going to be terrible next year.  


  7. 1 minute ago, GrizzTigerFan said:

    Do you know why he isn't at Summer League?   Been pretty ZeroDarkThirty on info for him. 

    Have no clue and really don't care. That was the perfect opportunity for him to rehab his image. Instead, he's nowhere around, no comments no nothing. Exactly how he did the Suns. I'm thinking there is a higher probability that this will be a move that we regret than the probability of him working out. I hope they trade him somehow.


  8. 1 hour ago, Dwash said:

    The ideal scenario is to develop a 1-2-3 punch with a top 6 pick next year. But there is also development.  It doesnt always take a premium pick to develop a good second/third option. Milwaukee developed Middleton for example. Nets got Lavert, Dinwiddie, Harris. Denver got Harris, Barton and so on. Then after you get some more picks/young players for absorbing assets, you look to make signings like Bodganovic or Brogdon. Or fill out the roster like the Kings did. That would be my plan.

    Dont see why we need to reduce our capspace to pick up contracts with picks attached and lessen our cap space for free agents in 2/3 years just to take a shot at an inefficient scorer like Wiggins.  But I know for a few of you no amount of advanced stats, hometown fan testimony and analytical articles can convince you about how bad if an idea Wiggins is so whatever think its a good idea if you want. I can just be grateful that Im about 99% sure my FO isnt interested (looks like no other FO is as well even though they were handing out capspace money like Halloween candy this offseason).

    So what are we going to do with all of the cap space? 


  9. 1 hour ago, Rdk4121 said:

    We have Wiggins lite with Jackson, whose contract we have complete control over. No need to take on Wiggins. Let's hope Tyus turns out to be solid. 

     

    1 hour ago, GrizzTigerFan said:

    That's how i view it too.  Atleast Jackson doesn't have a motor problem.   Physical tools Wiggins is superior and better shooter but Jackson has the edge on him with passing, dribbling, defense and motor.    He will be the more complete player.    All he lacks really is maturity which can be corrected.  Motor and heart rarely ever improve. 

    Besides we can't combine any of our new guys in trades until Sept.   

     

    55 minutes ago, CoolHandGriz said:

    This.

    I don't want Jackson anywhere bear this team. He's a headache in the making. So it's Wiggins VERY lute with a high headache. He should have been at Summer League. I don't want that idiot to ever wear a Grizz uni.


  10. Just now, Dwash said:

    Would rather...much rather...use our space to absorb one year contracts nexr year.  And be ready for some free agency runs in 2021/2022.

    On who? We would still have considerable cap space even with Wiggins on board. We will have a crapload of cap space next year. If we trade for Wiggins, we would still have significant cap space. i'm not saying bring him in to be your #1 guy. I don't care about him being a former #1 pick. I don't care about what went down in Minny.  I'm just saying it gives us a scorer. There are two things in our favor as long as Wiggins performs- 1. His contract will get shorter after each season making him more tradeable and 2. Salaries are rising. Once all of these new salaries come in, he won't even be in the top 25 in salaries in the NBA and going forward, teams will have to spend upper $20 millions to get a guy who can give you high teens/low 20s in scoring. He can get us 20 ppg next year. I'm not worried about his defense. We're not trying to win a championship next year. I'm not worried about him being labeled soft. He's not the face of the franchise and he's not the team leader. He would be a role player and his role would be to score. With Ja and Tyus setting him up to score and with JJJ and JV's passing abilities. i think he would give us 20 ppg in spite of his other deficiencies. We would give it a 1-2 year trial to see how it works and then move on.He would be tradeable on a 2 year contract, easily. 

    I'm not taking any shots at Memphis, but exactly who would we sign with all of that cap space? Our best bet is to go after someone who needs a fresh start via a trade. A Z-Bo type move and Josh Jackson ain't it. I live Dallas. Dallas is the 5th largest metro area in the U.S., it's booming, new jobs everywhere, new construction everywhere, companies moving in all of the time, people are moving here at ridiculous rates, it has all 4 major league sports (NBA, NFL, MLB, NHL). You would think it would be an attractive market. The Mavs have a charismatic, personable team owner, they have the reigning rookie of the year and a guy labeled the unicorn. Two players everyone would want to play with right? They have won a championship in the last 10 years. You would think it would be a desirable franchise right? Guess what, Dallas struck out on every free agent they went after. They couldn't even get a meeting with Patrick Beverley. if Dallas is struggling to sign FA with all it has going for it. What in the world would make anyone think Memphis could go out and get big name free agents?  It's obvious to me that in the short term, more superstars are calling their shots and they want to live on the coasts. We would only be able to sign Chandler Parson type free agents who we clearly vastly overpay. I'd rather make a trade and give it 1-2 years while Ja and Jaren develop. 

    I'm just looking at it as we need a scorer and not sure how many are available for us to get and then, I don't really see anyone to after in 2020 FA. It's a gap contract to get us from where we are to where we need to be. We are going to have to take some bad contracts to fill some of this space. I would much rather have someone who can be productive as opposed to more contracts like Miles Plumlee and Solomon Hill. 


  11. If they're pursuing max cap space, I wonder if they would take our junk for Wiggins and we could give him a 1-2 year trial period. He would be tradeable after that. We could send Hill, Jackson and Howard (works in the trade Machine) That way, we wouldn't have to put up with the headache of Josh Jackson. Minny gets a lot of 1 year deals to help them clear space. We get a contract on our books to help us eat cap space for next year, because we will have a ton of cap space next year and I'm not sure if there are desirable players out there to spend that cap space on. 

     

     


  12. 2 hours ago, Grizball said:

    https://trendbasket.net/fenerbahce-beko-marko-guduricten-16-milyon-euro-gelir-elde-etti/

     

    It's been reported that Marko Guduric has completed a 2 million euro buyout with his former clubs to join the Grizzlies. Who paid the 2M Euro though? Is it taken from Guduric's salary or the Grizzlies paid for it?

    If I remember correctly with JCN, it was like a certain amount upfront an dthen they agreed to take a certain amount out of his NBA salary. Kind of like paychek garnishment.