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  1. Ole Dirty Klondike

    Should We Re-SIgn D Brooks?

    LOL, you're totally missing the point. I'm not saying he IS going to get $15 mil per. I'm not saying I want him to get $15 mil per. I hope he gets somewhere around the MLE $ amount point. I threw out those players to make a simple point. You don't have to average 20 ppg or even be a starter to get $15 mil per year. That's my point. If Dillon has a good agent, I would suspect, they would shoot for that amount. There is no scrub love for Dillon from my end. I have been very consistent on my views on Dillon. The guys that I posted are scrubs though. Teams overpay ALL OF THE TIME. I think people really need to adjust their perspective on player's pay. I think most people are stuck in time before the last CBA. They hear dollar amounts and freak out but when you look at the reality, it's not that uncommon for Dillon type players to make over $10 mil. Same thing for Andrew Wiggins' salary. People keep talking about his horrible contract. Dude is barely in the top 30 of NBA salaries. He's not being paid like a superstar. Salaries have skyrocketed. $15 mil really ain't that much these days. Actually, if you're making less than the MLE, you're like a 8th or 9th person off of the bench. i think Dillon is a solid 6th man or starter on the right team.
  2. Ole Dirty Klondike

    Should We Re-SIgn D Brooks?

    Well, TJ Warren is a 1-dimensional scorer. I don't think it's a coincidence that the Suns have a winning record now that he's going, early in the season but still. Now you may say, "well, Indy has a winning record too" and i would say he's a better fit there. You have 2 very high BBIQ players in Brogdon and Sabonis. Brogdon is one of the most efficient guards in the league and Sabonis has been a beast. They need a third guy to score and in steps Warren but in general, Warren is one of those guys who scores points but doesn't affect the outcome of the game. You also have Lamb and Turner scoring in double figures too. I like Warren as a6th man on a good team. You were very selective in choosing Waren but let me be selective and show a few guys making around $15 mil per this season: James Johnson- $15.3 mil this year, option for next year at $16 mil and he's avg 5 ppg and 2.5 rpg. last year, he avg 7 ppg Brandon Knight- $15.6 mil this year. Averaging 5 ppg and 2 apg Ian Mahinmi- $15.4 mil this season, has averaged about 4 ppg and 4 rpg the last 2 seasons, hasn't even played this season Marvin Williams- $15 mil this season, averaging 6.5 ppg and 2 rpg Danny Green- $14 mil, averaging 8 ppg Then you have guys like Dennis Schroeder, Rudy Gay, and others, whose stats are similar to D Brooks and they make between $13-$15 mil. If Dillon's agent is any good, they have already communicated this to the Grizz.
  3. Ole Dirty Klondike

    Should We Re-SIgn D Brooks?

    If you look at the people making around $13-$15 mil, is Dillon that much worse than those guys? $15 mil is not superstar money. I don't want to see the Grizz off him that much but it wouldn't surprise me if a team did. Look at the guys making that much. I would like to see between $8-$11 mil but who knows if that is enough to realistically keep him. Teams over react and overpay all of the time.
  4. Ole Dirty Klondike

    Should We Re-SIgn D Brooks?

    I'm not advocating that we give him $15 mil. i'm just saying a team could offer him that. I think it's way too much. I'm fine with around $10 mil per. Someone posted salaries earlier, I don't think it's out of the question for a starting SG who is avg double digits to make $15 mil. $15 mil sounds like a lot but things have changed a lot in relation to salaries in the past few years.
  5. Ole Dirty Klondike

    Should We Re-SIgn D Brooks?

    Avery himself said he realized the business decisions that the Grizz had to make. We still had Chandler Parsons and Mike at the time and were way over the cap. We will be way under the cap come next offseason and not many places to spend it.
  6. Ole Dirty Klondike

    Should We Re-SIgn D Brooks?

    The MLE for this year was $9.2 mil. I'm taking a rough guesstimate and saying it will be around $9.5 mil. I could be totally wrong. I'm just using that as a benchmark for salary. We will be well under the cap and won't have any salary exceptions so theoretically we could sign Dillon for anything we want up to the max. I'm just asking if you use the MLE $ amount as a reference point for a rotation contributor type player, kind of a borderline starter/6th man, how much would you pay Dillon if we are using the MLE as the reference point. I think he is in that range of type of player. I think if we sign him for around the MLE(+/-$2 mil), i think that's about to be expected. If we sign him for less, I think it's a bargain, if it's for more than say over $15 mil per, I think we are overpaying big time. I would be fine with $12-$13 mil per but it's pushing it.
  7. Ole Dirty Klondike

    Should We Re-SIgn D Brooks?

    We'll just have to agree to disagree. Dillon was a 3 year college player and this is his third year in the league. He's about to be 24 years old. It's not like we're talking about JJJ here. There's a lot of evidence out there of what Dillon's game is. Yes, college is different from the NBA and yes he's playing for a different coach under a differents ystem but you can use that argument for any player and yet people routinely throw out suggestions on how much we should sign player x for. Do I hope he can progress? Sure I do but i am fine with taking the evidence now and stating my opinion that his value to this team is as the 6th man and being paid an annual salary of around what the MLE would equate to (+/- a couple million). It could change come February or April but this is a discussion board and I was just throwing out a topic for discussion to gauge people's perception of Dillon, not trying to hold anyone to what they say.
  8. Ole Dirty Klondike

    Utah Jazz @ Memphis Grizzlies - 11/15/19

    Hopefully. IDK, maybe there are a couple of games at the same time as Pelicans games that they can switch out. They did it to broadcast Zion, without him they have a horrible record so hopefully we can steal a couple of national tv games from them.
  9. Ole Dirty Klondike

    Should We Re-SIgn D Brooks?

    Dillon Brooks started 74 games as a rookie.
  10. Ole Dirty Klondike

    Should We Re-SIgn D Brooks?

    Too soon? He's in his 3rd year.
  11. Ole Dirty Klondike

    Should We Re-SIgn D Brooks?

    So what exactly is a fair and reasonable contract in your mind? What is the right price? What is overpaying? it's just a simple question asking how much do fan's value D Brooks. I was just using the MLE dollars as a benchmark dollar amount for a middle of the road NBA player. Just a simple question, should he make less than that, more that, or around that amount. Obviously, we will be well under the cap so we can offer him any amount we want up to the max, but just wondering where does the board view Dillon. I think somewhere around the expected MLE dollar amount (let's say it's $9.5 mil so +/- $2 mil around $9.5 mil) is a fair amount. H ecould get around $15 mil, i think we may be overpaying if we get in that range.
  12. Ole Dirty Klondike

    Attention GrizzsNation...I don't think our team is good enought to tank.

    Do you mean bad enough to tank? Also, we're 12 games into the season. Ja will more than likely hit a rookie wall come January-ish. He's getting a lot of energy out now. He should easily win ROY as long as Zion misses significant games. I view Zion as the Alabama of rookies. He may not deserve it but the media will try to force him in anyway. Exactly.
  13. Ole Dirty Klondike

    Utah Jazz @ Memphis Grizzlies - 11/15/19

    DB is out of control tonight. He's forcing way too much and trying to do too much.
  14. Ole Dirty Klondike

    Utah Jazz @ Memphis Grizzlies - 11/15/19

    Oh, I guess that's why ūü§£ūü§£ūü§£ūü§£ūü§£ Guess I wasn't expecting an early season Grizz game to be on national tv