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  1. tangogriz

    Let's Talk About The Bozo Driving This Bus

    Last night Trump fired another Inspector General. This time in the State department. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-fires-state-department-watchdog-n1208476
  2. tangogriz

    Let's Talk About The Bozo Driving This Bus

    You just cannot believe a word out of their mouths. If you do your job honestly and tell the truth, you will not have a job for long. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/coronavirus-christi-grimm-trump-to-replace-health-inspector-general-who-criticized-coronavirus-response/ The he was a she but same result, fired. The folks who speak truth to power are put on a spike to warn others. https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/05/02/849642036/trump-moves-to-replace-watchdog-who-reported-medical-shortages https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/02/21/trump-replacing-spy-chief-maguire-after-russia-briefing-stirs-uproar/4830237002/ https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-removes-acting-defense-department-inspector-general-11586277895 These Inspector Generals, who are being fired by Trump, are supposed to oversee the integrity of the system, well fat chance when the leader values his personal advancement above all else. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/28/business/trump-coat-of-arms.html If you are not a Trump Toady, you are gone. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Trump_administration_dismissals_and_resignations What is a President without oversight? As long as he controls one house he can block the Congress. It appears that the Supreme Court will rule that he cannot be investigated while in office. Is he a King? Trump is probably going to jail if he loses this election, or I should say loses control of the government, because he, and his wingnut media, are signaling "violence" to an unfavorable election result.
  3. tangogriz

    Let's Talk About The Bozo Driving This Bus

    The disgraced General Mike Flynn, former Trump National Security Advisor, is now a great American. He was ensnared by the deep-state Democrats in their efforts to bring down our great President. For wingnuts the ends-justify-the-means. Its OK to turn a disgrace into a hero. Its nothing unusual, just another wingnut whitewash. Trump and his gangster Attorney General waited until close to the election to work this history rewrite for Flynn. They want a smaller window of time to cover their lies and fight real facts. Flynn pleaded guilty at two separate court hearings. He now blames his original attorneys. Flynn's new attorneys are also blaming the FBI. Flynn will not allow his original attorneys to speak about the case. He hides behind the attorney-client priviledge. They know the truth about the deal. You give evidence on something more important and the prosecutors allow you to plead guilty to a lesser charge. Everyone knows that's the way it works. But not for wingnuts. Their word and the truth mean nothing. I always wondered why media wingnuts did not turn against Flynn when he agreed to testify against Trump. Its because they all assumed that Flynn would walk out on the deal and not face consequences. Trump would protect him. Both Trump and Flynn had business interests that involved Russia, Saudi Arabia and Turkey. Trump still does. Flynn retroactively filed the paperwork with our government stating that he was a foreign agent of Turkey while serving as Trump's National Security Adviser. This is important. Flynn was paid over $500,000 to work for Turkey _while_ he was National Security Advisor to the President of the United States. Flynn was also secretly working for ACU Strategic Partners. The Obama sanctions stopped ACU from working with a Russian company to develop nuclear power deals in the Middle East, mainly Saudi Arabia. Obama put economic sanctions on Russia because they invaded Ukraine and meddled in our election. These sanctions had overwhelming support in both parties. Flynn secretly, and illegally, discussed the sanctions with the Russians. Flynn was worried that the Russians would escalate the sanction issue. He illegally reassured them that Trump would kill the sanctions. (Trump tried but there was too much Congressional support and heat from Flynn being exposed.) Flynn spoke to the Russians to protect his own private business interests. He lied to the FBI about the conversations. That left him open to blackmail and manipulation by America's adversaries. Flynn was not tricked by Trump-haters. In 2014, under Obama, Flynn was director of the Defense Intelligence Agency. He knew that our government records phone calls with high level Russians. And yet he lied to the FBI. He thought his Trump connection and high level job would make the cover-up work. General Michael Flynn was a profiteer and scoundrel. He was a perfect fit for Trump.
  4. Trump was visited in the White House by several people, including the President of the American Association of Nurse Practitioners. She called the availibility of PPE "sporatic but manageable." She said she had been using the same N95 mask for a few weeks. Trump told her, "Sporatic for you but not for a lot of other people, because I've heard the opposite, I've heard that they are loaded up with gowns now, and initially we had nothing, we had empty cupboards. We had empty shelves, we had nothing because it wasn't put there by the last administration." He is telling this nurse that no matter what her experience is, he knows the truth and its the opposite of what she says. In essence he told her she is wrong, and if she's right, its Obama's fault. Forget the childish bs about empty cupboards, he's been in office for over 3 years. He claims that he knew about the pandemic at the end of January when he placed the China travel ban. But his admistration didn't begin purchasing and managing the PPE supply for almost 2 months. He doesn't want anyone to know about any Presidential pandemic briefings: when he got them, what was in them, what actions he took and what he was telling the American people.
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    Let's get this straight

    This is why real news folks have lost all respect for Trump and his boot lickers. Here is the Attorney General of the US, the highest law enforcement officer in the land demonstrating his highly polished skill at lying and propaganda. His answer to the first question is a straight up, self serving lie. When he's called on it, he doesn't miss a beat and goes right on like nothing unusual happened. The toady AG is a piker compared to his boss. How the !!!! can an American say this, “They always said Lincoln, nobody got treated worse than Lincoln—I believe I am treated worse." Everything is about Trump. He compares himself to the President who got us through the darkest days, the Civil War, and was killed in office. Trump is moaning about how the press treat him. Its unbelievable. You could not make this stuff up. Maybe the press would treat him better if he would stop tell _so_ many lies. https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/03/politics/fact-check-fox-news-townhall-trump-may-3/index.html and
  6. tangogriz

    Let's get this straight

    This area is kinda the basement here where few folks frequent so I'll say it. There is a small flicker of regret that passes over me about the loss of Grizzlies games but for the most part I don't give a flying flip about the NBA. Maybe thats because I'm in the age group that tends to get killed by the virus or maybe, as others have said, I'm just a hater. But before I go I'm gonna call out a few things about that lying, thieving conman that's running the show. In the next few months we're gonna see if the Supreme Court is really independant of Trump's influence. They have to make some calls about whether his financial info has to be release in court cases as it would for any citizen governed by our laws. Trump is fighting tooth and nail to keep Americans from seeing info that all Presidents and most candidates made public for the last 50 years. During the campaign he promised to release the info, but it was just another lie. If Americans see it, then even maga-haters will turn on the Conman and Thief.
  7. tangogriz

    CoronaVirus Effects

    Trump was asked about intelligence advisors warning him about the real possibility of a pandemic in January and February. He doesn't deny it. He goes on the attack about sleepy Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi "dancing" in the streets. He cherry picks what other official said. He points to the leaky China travel ban as proof that he was doing his job, that he was doing more than playing golf and speaking at rallies of closely packed crowds. And this final evasion: Reporter: Were you getting warnings in your Presidential daily briefs? Trump: I would have to check. I would have to look at the exact date of warnings. This video contains several of his "under control" statements during time period. So its important to ask him if our intelligence agencies were privately telling him the same things that he was publicly telling the nation.
  8. tangogriz

    Let's get this straight

    It appears that Commadoor Sixty-four locked the threads.
  9. tangogriz

    CoronaVirus Effects

    You are confusing the severe impact of the pandemic with the predictability that a pandemic would occur. The initial ignoring of the pandemic and the consequent severe repercussions go together. I just gave you a few of the many examples of folks making the prediction. The two previous Presidents made the prediction. About the severity, let me repeat one of the quotes: The impact of a Crimson Contagion outbreak would be severe, probably like today. Early public warning would have made a great difference. (I believe that Trump did receive private early warnings from the military and others.) He believed an early major response would hurt the economy. Ironic, huh. Publicity would have helped overcome that. Here is a video that has a recent clip of Trump denying that he got rid of the pandemic specialists and also a clip from 2018 of Trump explaining why he got rid of the pandemic specialists. This ain't rocket science or hater talk. Having the discarded specialist in place could have saved many lives and billions of dollars. It is reasonable to assume that the impact would have been much less severe if our leader had acted earlier. Trump is fighting to keep this quiet. This leads to a very important question. Are Trump's current decisions motivated more by coverup than the best interests of his countrymen and, really, the world. We know that he continues to lie about the availability of testing. Why?
  10. tangogriz

    CoronaVirus Effects

    The guy who wrote the book says it is not a black swan event. I don't know if you intend it, but this is used to give Trump cover, so thats what I'm responding to. The impact is rare, but the probability of a major outbreak was predicted. Bush and Obama both made "when not if" speeches about pandemics. During his first term Trump got rid of some scientists who were our eyes and ears to outbreaks. One was replaced by Jared Kushner. https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/04/trump-fired-pandemic-response-jared-kushner-coronavirus.html Others were not replaced. Exclusive: U.S. slashed CDC staff inside China prior to coronavirus outbreak Exclusive: U.S. axed CDC expert job in China months before virus outbreak The Trump folks were warned. https://theconversation.com/coronavirus-is-significant-but-is-it-a-true-black-swan-event-136675 Some of Trump's own people sent out a warning in 2019. https://www.npr.org/2020/03/20/819186528/what-last-years-government-simulation-predicted-about-todays-pandemic Maybe one can spread the blame to other Presidents but Trump rightfully deserves most of it.
  11. tangogriz

    Let's get this straight

    He was asked about his zero-cases-soon claim. He now says that claim was true because we will someday in the future reach zero cases. He says this stuff with a straight face. I'm sure you've seen it, but here is a recent history rewrite, only this one is done the next day.
  12. tangogriz

    CoronaVirus Effects

    The above meme is not visible to me. It could be a popup blocker issue. Pelosi went to Chinatown to reassure folks about Asians, as the beatings go up when wingnuts look down. She went there on the same day that Trump made a speech saying the virus was completely under control in the US. He kept up with that bs for more than a month. Who was in a position to know the real facts? Who got the important briefings? Who said it was a hoax? Who was more concerned with the financial markets than the mom and pop markets? You can watch videos of all his statements. It doesn't stop him from denying them. Do you know that during that month or so time period, for which Trump now claims that he knew that Covid-19 was a pandemic, that he played golf 6 times and held 9 rallies? We're talking about the leader of the free world. Four years ago no one would believe this stuff could happen.
  13. tangogriz

    Let's get this straight

    Maybe both of these will _eventually_ _prove_ effective. Right now they are completely unproven and potentially very harmful. This was a Coronavirus briefing to the nation. One person died trying to drink what he thought was hydroxychloroquine as touted by Trump. Shouldn't that couple's error have caused Trump to be more cautious when discussing treatments. Surely you can see that. About the Heal light: Lets wait until they've tested it inside the body. It sounds like a steep hill to me. The Coronavirus is in the cells of the lungs. How will a UV light on the end of a catheter kill only the virus. It appears that this treatment, if it works, is only for the most seriously ill patients. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlorine_dioxide https://apnews.com/afs:Content:8438840420 Trump mentioned light and disinfectant to draw folks attention away from his backing of hydroxychloroquine. Initial studies show it to be ineffective against Coronavirus and thus harmful because of its side effects. Sorry man, there's a reason that the White House folks don't bring up these wingnut arguments. Trump tells at least three lies in every presser. If you read real news you'd know. His lies about testing get repeated every day. These are published numbers. How can you trust a leader who lies about facts and denies previous statements that were recorded for all the world to see. That leads to another important topic. Its bad enough that the US got a late start in this fight. Worldwide our president should be a leader not a laughing stock.
  14. tangogriz

    Let's get this straight

    Good analogy because some folks have been convinced that they are in a culture war. This is the new White House. Everyone who works there knows not to try to correct him about anything. His flunky briefed him about the study on the effect of sunlight and uv light on surfaces so Trump suggested using light from inside the body. The flunky should have politely educated Trump but folks who do that don't last long so everyone is afraid to speak. You could see it in Dr. Birx's reaction. So Trump, ever the showman, salesman and gambler (with the lives of others), doubled down with the lets-test-shooting-folks-up-with-disinfectant schpeel. Nobody would believe it if you made it up, but could you make up a better example.
  15. tangogriz

    Let's get this straight

    Today he said that his Coronavirus doctors should test injecting people with cleaning disinfectants. His first idea was to kill the virus by shining light on the body. He really believes that he has knowledge thats better than the specialists, whether they're military or medical. I don't know if he's stupid. I go back and forth between thinking he's stupid and he's a criminal geniu