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LOL Good one To be fair though, he's been a bit more reasonable the last few days, so maybe we can hold off on pulling the trigger on the trade for a little bit, until he gets his trade value a bit higher LOL

This baby is over

This would be a W if Jaren hadn't missed so many at the rim. Send him to see the Penguin

Well Crowder woke up

1995 blonde tolex 3 x 10. Trust me vol dial at 4 is PLENTY loud

At least today Jaren has more rebounds than fouls

bets on who fouls out first Jaren or Dillon?

5 now And that is Jones fault for turnung over the danm ball

thank you for your resonse. That's reasonable Anyone else want to define their criteria?

Fender VibroKing turned to 10! I'm not really worried about Jonas either - at this stage. And now looking at Dillon, while his fouling and inconsistencies frustrate me, he is actually doing pretty ok by the stats I've been using in this debate (yep I can eat humble pie too y'know). The bottom line of this whole discussion is that I believe we need more than 5-7 true NBA talented guys, and we need to fix that before devouring each other over some fouls and rebounds. Rock on brother!

Bump So since everyone is discussing "improvement" for Jaren, anybody want to define what the criteria is that would be? And how many categories of stat types need to be going up to say, "Hey man, you have improved!"

Another grandoise sweeping statement. Read my recent posts, I said he needs to improve his fouling because it hurts him and the team, AND he needs to improve his rebounding but I did say, for me, that aspect wasnt so crucial, certainly not to warrant the criticism he has been getting; despite his offensive numbers, and the way all teams have changed their offense with much more emphasis on launching long range shots. But have we now moved the evaluation bar so that Jaren needs to be scoring 30/20 every game to be considered "improving"? LOL

He would have to really digress for him to be put on the bench. If he continues the same away, he's good enough to be a starter IF AND WHEN someone better comes along.

How many more games has Jonas played? Double? Triple? Quadruple? What is this discussion about?

No to trading JV - at least not this season Yes to trading ILUVJV - maybe we can get a pair of JV oven mitts for him