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On 1/9/2018 at 11:27 AM, Iron Mike said:

He's playing with kids, lets wait for him to play with the big boys then lets talk again. lol

For real man. Trae is playing against collegiate players. Remember RJ hunter who was shooting the ball amazingly and comes to the nba and just falls on his face. Granted he looks like a great shooter but there is no way he finishes at the rim at the same level as Mike.

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13 minutes ago, bobblybook1 said:

For real man. Trae is playing against collegiate players. Remember RJ hunter who was shooting the ball amazingly and comes to the nba and just falls on his face. Granted he looks like a great shooter but there is no way he finishes at the rim at the same level as Mike.

To be fair, rookie Mike Conley wasn't exactly the hottest thing out there.

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19 hours ago, fanboyslim said:

Season ending injury with a potential of long term issues and recurrence? CW must be salivating.

Where does he go to school at? I might could get to be his personal trainer.

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21 hours ago, Kevin B Moses said:

The biggest problem with the grizzlies is that they built an offense irrespective of their franchise player. Fizdale basically turned marc into a 3 point set shooter, which caused all sorts of problems. Plus Fizdale's defensive principles made us into the worst defense in the league.

That's kinda why we have to get rid of Bickerstaff because the guy literally has changed nothing.  

That's the best thing he could've done, run the offense through him, let him shoot a few 3s. He's not a low post player. Yeah Bickerstaff did try to change things, he tried to make Gasol a low post player and thet was when they played like crap. The Grizz play much better in an uptempo game. The 1 thing about Ennis and Jarell, they force the ball upcourt, they don't walk it up. Fiz just changed the players around so much they didn't have any chemistry, no one knew what they were supposed to be doing on defense.

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2 hours ago, bobblybook1 said:

For real man. Trae is playing against collegiate players. Remember RJ hunter who was shooting the ball amazingly and comes to the nba and just falls on his face. Granted he looks like a great shooter but there is no way he finishes at the rim at the same level as Mike.

As Fanboy pointed out, Mike Conley sucked in college. 

Also, Mike is horrific at finishing at the rim for a PG. 

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2 hours ago, memgrizzlies321 said:

You're a loser franchise if you pick based on highest floor.  You pick based on highest ceiling.  That's Porter.  After that is Bagley, Doncic, Young, then Ayton.

Don does not have a higher ceiling than Young. 

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38 minutes ago, Gradey said:

Porter's injury worries me too.

 

I would take a risk on Porter. He’s very young he’ll heal. I heard he probably will be back playing this year so maybe we’ll get some more footage of him.

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1 hour ago, bobblybook1 said:

I would take a risk on Porter. He’s very young he’ll heal. I heard he probably will be back playing this year so maybe we’ll get some more footage of him.

Doubt it. Best case scenario is three months, and he's saying he won't rush it. He's also saying he might not declare (which I guess will be influenced by how low he falls in the mock drafts).

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/21946110/michael-porter-jr-missouri-tigers-rush-return-back-surgery

 

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3 minutes ago, memgrizzlies321 said:

Yeah you’re right.  I’d probably put Doncic after Ayton actually.

I know this is not gonna be popular but the more i watch Doncic, he might be the #1 pick.  I have to keep remembering he might be bigger than out starting PF.

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9 hours ago, memgrizzlies321 said:

You're a loser franchise if you pick based on highest floor.  You pick based on highest ceiling.  That's Porter.  After that is Bagley, Doncic, Young, then Ayton.

Agree.

But you need to wipe the memory away of Thabeet, or Parsons from your memory.  Grizzlies have PTSD from injuries in the last two or three seasons.  And busts from pretty much every draft since Conley and Gasol (trade).  It makes taking the risk on Porter really hard.  But without that memory, Porter isn't such a big risk.  It's a moderate risk.  The upside is huge.

He's one of the most naturally gifted players I've seen in a long time and his natural style of play and position is something the Grizzlies have lacked for many years.  He is at his best in 1 on 1 isolation situations, and he has unlimited range.  But he's not selfish or has a big ego.  His frame is a bit small but he has many years to build on it.  He could be the next Durant.

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8 hours ago, MemphisX said:

I know this is not gonna be popular but the more i watch Doncic, he might be the #1 pick.  I have to keep remembering he might be bigger than out starting PF.

Nice. We have company in the Luka bandwagon, @fanboyslim .

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26 minutes ago, JWill4L said:

Nice. We have company in the Luka bandwagon, @fanboyslim .

I have to be honest, I still have to watch a lot of the other guys in order to compare. I wouldn't want to pass on a better player simply because I've watched him more. But in the end I'd be ecstatic if we drafted Luka.

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I have picked Doncic apart, but I still see a strong player. I said in the Joe Johnson level. NBA draft.net said Steve Smith.  Maybe Gordon Hayward. These are nice players. But the NBA game promotes great perimeter one on one scorers who are decent/good passers as their top stars. I see Doncic as a good/great passer but just a good not great scorer, which really isnt a superstar in the NBA but a good player.

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6 minutes ago, Dwash said:

I have picked Doncic apart, but I still see a strong player. I said in the Joe Johnson level. NBA draft.net said Steve Smith.  Maybe Gordon Hayward. These are nice players. But the NBA game promotes great perimeter one on one scorers who are decent/good passers as their top stars. I see Doncic as a good/great passer but just a good not great scorer, which really isnt a superstar in the NBA but a good player.

That's a fair criticism. However consider that he's surrounded by several good scorers in Real Madrid, not to mention Goran Dragic in Slovenia, so he's usually not required to score a lot (still, 16ppg in 25mpg is nothing to scoff at). A more interesting quality is his ability to score in bunches and take over games in critical stretches.

I think what I would like to see from him in the rest of the season is if he has the ability to assert that kind dominance over an entire game, which probably won't be called for until the playoffs because Real Madrid is going with a 10-11 player rotation at this point.

And this gives me an excuse to put this video here. It's a bit old but the stream of expletives from Real Madrid's coach (tactfully removed from the subtitles) crack me up every time. :P

 

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On 1/11/2018 at 5:33 PM, Memphis Maverick said:

No. As a matter of fact two of the 4 were undrafted. 
And every single one of them were under 6ft tall and weighed no more than 160lbs. 
Why does that matter?
You have a kid avg 29pts and 10 assists. Not 11pts and 10 assists. 
The point is that it is very hard to do and hasn’t been done since the 90s. 

It matters because it appears quite clear that having done it does not lead to NBA success.

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I will keep saying we must trade Gasol... I really want us to try to have a chance to draft Porter with an additional pick we get in Gasol's trade. If we get another lottery pick, get some lucky and Porter falls we draft Doncic and Porter in that order. 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, TimBC said:

It matters because it appears quite clear that having done it does not lead to NBA success.

None of those guys were as athletic or as talented as Trae Young. The last player to have a 20+ assists game made it in the NBA. 

Dide just came off of a 43/11rebounds/7 game against his second ranked team and won both. 

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I'm sorry, but Trae Young is absurd and he's the closest thing to Steph Curry as it gets. He'll get stronger as he gets older, but he hit a step-back three pointer today against TCU. He's a quick passer as well. 

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