Grizzled Vet

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  1. The 2018 Free Agents

    Grizzlies free agents: Tyreke, Mario, Brice Johnson (Andrew Harrison's is not guaranteed yet) Available free agents (besides already mentioned Grizzlies): Guards: KCP, Will Barton, Wes Matthews, Patrick McCaw (RFA), Seth Curry, Wayne Ellington, Tony Allen, Rondo, Avery Bradley, Corey Brewer, Nick Young, Devin Harris, Mario Hezonja, MCW, Nik Stauskas (RFA), Jarrett Jack, Jason Terry, Arron Afflalo, Jose Calderon, Ray Felton, Jameer Nelson, Aaron Brooks, OJ Mayo (Pending approval), Derrick Rose, Tim Frazier, Ian Clark, Shane Larkin, Gerald Green, Trey Burke, Joe Johnson, Marco Belinelli, Rashad Vaughn, Sheldon Mac, Quincy Pondexter, Toney Douglass Forwards/Centers: Luc Richard Mbah a Moute, Trevor Ariza, Rudy Gay (PO), Wilson Chandler (PO), Jeff Green, Ersan Ilyasova, Brook Lopez, Dewayne Dedmon (PO), Greg Monroe, Nerlens Noel, Jahlil Okafor, Amir Johnson, Trevor Booker, Vince Carter, Channing Frye, Easy Ed Davis, Aron Baynes, Alex Len, Zaza, Tarik Black, Anthony Tolliver, James Ennis, Dougie McBuckets (RFA), **** Jefferson, Dante Cunningham, Mo Speights, JaVale, Michael Beasley, Omri Casspi, Luke Babbitt, Quincy Acy, Willie Reed, Jordan Mickey, Chris McCullough, Josh McRoberts, Georgios Papagiannis Chris Wallace special: Jabari Parker (RFA with bad knees), Jeremy Lin (PO) Restricted, and realistically not attainable: Aaron Gordon, Clint Capela, Zach LaVine, Rodney Hood, Julius Randle, Marcus Smart, Elfrid Payton, Kyle Anderson, Jusuf Nurkic, Dante Exum, Nemanja Bjelica, plus a bunch of other guys Free agents available, but not affordable/attainable, but for those who like to keep track: LeBron, Durant, DeMarcus, Chris Paul George, Isaiah Thomas, DeAndre Jordan, Carmelo, Mirotic, Enes Kanter, Derrick Favors, DWade, JJ Reddick, Danny Green, Tony Parker, Thaddeus Young (PO), Dirk, David West Guys I hate that I have to list somewhere: Austin Rivers (PO) Always available: Cash Considerations Feel free to make additions or corrections. Someone like KCP is probably not attainable, but I had already put him on that list.
  2. What about Graysen Allen from Duke

    I think Mike Krzyzewski will probably stay at Duke.
  3. Jeff Bzdelik would be nice to bring back. I thought he did a nice job on the defensive end when he was here with Dave, and I think he had a positive impact on Houston's defensive improvement.
  4. The 2018 Free Agents

    I don't believe either KCP or Will Barton can be had for the MLE. Even if KCP does sign with the MLE, I don't believe it would be in Memphis. I still think Tyreke Evans is the best talent available for the MLE, and that is iffy for several reasons.
  5. How Stupid Can A Franchise Be

    If I knew the person being drafted would give us the career of Manu Ginobilli, I would take it, easily. It's not just his own abilities, but it was also his willingness to be a great team player. If he's in a bigger market, especially in the Eastern Conference, he's a bigger star. After Kobe and DWade, I'm not sure there was a better SG over the last 15 years, and some might take him over DWade. In the last 10 drafts (08-17), of the last Top 4 draft picks (40 guys), only these guys have had a better career than Manu: 08 draft: Russell Westbrook (yes); Rose, Beasley, Mayo (No) 09 draft: Harden (yes); Griffin (maybe); Thabeet & Evans (No) 10 draft: Wall (probably not); Turner, Favors, Wes Johnson (No) 11 draft: Kyrie (probably); Derrick Williams, Kanter, T. Thompson (no) 12 draft: Ant Davis (yes); Kidd-Gilchrist, Beal, Dion Waiters (No) 13 draft: Oladipo (probably not); Anthony Bennett, Otto Porter, Cody Zeller (No) 14 draft: Embiid (maybe); Wiggins, Parker, Aaron Gordon (No) 15 draft: KAT & Porzingis (maybe); D. Russell & J Okafor (No) 16 draft; Ben Simmons (maybe), Brandon Ingram, Jaylen Brown, Dragen Bender (probably not) 17 draft: Fultz, Lonzo Ball, Jayson Tatum, Josh Jackson (probably none of these)
  6. How Stupid Can A Franchise Be

    If Grizzlies lose both those games, the Suns probably don't win the Sacramento and Dallas games down the stretch. They won them because they had a lead in the race for ping pong balls, and they could afford those wins, but they were always going to stay below the Grizzlies down the stretch. They won 1 game in February and March (Grizzlies).
  7. With The 32nd Pick In The 2018 NBA Draft

    The other option i could see wallace is what you are describing here. A mid to late projected 1st rounder who falls.
  8. With The 32nd Pick In The 2018 NBA Draft

    The Wallace way would look to see what elite HS player has fallen in the draft based on 1 years ago projections I wouldn't be surprised if they buy another 2nd round pick
  9. It's the Final Countdown!!!

    Anyone attending any of the watch parties?
  10. I know this only has less than 1 day left, but it seems like an interesting opportunity. Put down deposit at $1/game price, and commit to paying whatever the ping pong balls say. I don't know if it is still going on, but it gets you in the FEF for pretty cheap. Must put down deposit before the lottery.
  11. Ping pong time.

    What if the trade is from the 2nd position to the 3rd (i.e. 2nd pick + Chancun) for the 3rd pick and top 55 protected 2nd round pick in 2021?
  12. Ping pong time.

    What if it is moving down from #2 to #6, but getting rid of Chancun? (I probably wouldn't do it, but I'd think a lot about what moving on from that contract would be worth in terms of draft spots)
  13. Referendum on bringing back TA & Z-Bo fails

    Tony is done physically for playing a full season. If he had developed a 3 pt shot, he'd still be in the league, but he didn't, and it cost him millions. I'm not opposed to Zach, and would happily consider Chandler Parsons trade for Zach (and probably need Kosta Koufos to make salaries work). I'm not sure why Sac would do that trade, but whatever, I'm not going to lose sleep on that trade.
  14. Ping pong time.

    One week until the draft lottery.
  15. The 2018 Free Agents

  16. The 2018 Free Agents

    If Noel is willing to play for the minimum, I welcome him to the team. I don't think that is realistic though, and I don't want to use the MLE on a Center.
  17. Grizz Offseason Moves

    I've written it before, and I'll right it again--the folks at ESPN do not watch this team play, nor add much depth nor insight. They can write about the Warriors, Lakers, Big Baller Brand, 3 of OKC's players, the Knicks, Celtics, Sixers and LeBron. They undercover teams like the Spurs, Nuggets, Atlanta, and the Grizzlies. These statements make me wonder if the writer just looked at standings, a salary cap database, and a few ESPN articles: Parsons was perceived as the X factor to the Grizzlies' success when he was signed to a $92 million contract in 2016. Now with $49 million left on the deal, Memphis will need to come to the realization that Parsons is more of a rotation player at this stage of his career - I think Memphis came to that realization in 2017, about 4 games into the season. He's only been a rotation player. Yes, GM Chris Wallace can point to the Conley injury and the firing of Dave Fizdale early in the season as reasons why Memphis won 22 games, but let's be honest. This Memphis team as constructed resembles a lottery team and not one competing for a playoff spot. and Despite only 15 wins in 63 tries the interim tag for JB Bickerstaff was removed. - This team was trying to lose games, and in spite of what a few fans on this board thought, the losing was done pretty successfully. I don't think nationally writers know that. Maybe, this team can compete for the playoffs or maybe they are lottery bound, but because of the injuries and disappearance of Tyreke, nobody knows how good the team really is. It's like trying to predict the 2017 playoff team based on the hodgepodge of guys that Dave Joerger finished out the 2016 season with.
  18. The 2018 Free Agents

    Denver may hope DA opts out, but I predict that he'd lose money if he did, so I don't think he will. He's not a MLE player in a year when teams have so little cap space.
  19. The 2018 Free Agents

    Just for the record, these players have player options this year, and make less than or equal to the MLE (if they were to opt out). SAC: Kosta Koufos (C) - $8.7 mm Hawks: Dewayne Dedmon (C) - $6 mm NYK: Kyle O'Quinn (C) - $4.3 mm Nugs: Darrell Arthur (PF) - $7.5 mm WIZ: Jason Smith (PF) - $5.5 mm Hawks: Mike Muscala (PF) - $5 mm SAS: Joffrey Lauvergne (PF) - $1.7 mm LAC: Wesley Johnson (SF) - $6.1 mm SAS: Rudy Gay (but he is getting the MLE with the Spurs, so he would gain $0 by moving) SAC: Garrett Temple (SG) - $8 mm MIN: Jamal Crawford (SG) - $4.5 mm NYK: Ron Baker (SG) - $4.5 mm WIZ: Jodie Meeks (SG) - $3.4 mm LAC: Milos Teodosic (PG) - $6.3 mm Pacers: Cory Joseph (PG) -$8 mm I know it is possible that a player would opt out who makes more than the MLE, and then has to settle for a MLE, but those players aren't listed here.
  20. The 2018 Free Agents

    Said every year since trading Rudy Gay.
  21. More exposure for a bigger deal? As if after 10 seasons in the league teams don't know what Tyreke was like and how good he is? I get being mad, if true, but that doesn't justify a pro on a contract year missing practices and shootarounds. It's a contract year before an off-season with hardly any free agent money to spend....and he's missing practices? Look, I hope all this is false, but Tyreke's body of work in the league isn't one that just screams "great teammate that only wants to win". I really want it to be false and Tyreke to return playing at a high level, but I'm guessing we'll see this off-season.
  22. Head Coach Thread

    No to Mark Jackson. No to Kevin McHale. Given the rumors on Mark Jackson, my guess is he'll be a candidate for several openings every year, but not hired. People on here believed Joerger and Hollins got what was coming to them for not getting along with management, but at least they generally got along with the majority of their staff. Mark Jackson was the (rumored) dysfunctional leader of that franchise, with problems all around. McHale has had his opportunities in the league. I'd go so far to say that I would rather bring back Hollins or Joerger versus either of those 2.
  23. Dillon Brooks named to Rising Star Challenge

    I expect him to be on the All-Rookie team (2nd team). But I don't know if that's just bias
  24. From today's Tanking story by Tillery (4/14). .....But it became obvious that the Grizzlies conceded an increasingly disinterested Evans, who began to inexplicably miss shootarounds and practices. If true, then Evans is better off somewhere else. And again, IF true, he's not getting more than the MLE from somewhere else because missed practices aren't something you pick up year 10 as a pro. And quite frankly, it may be why playoff teams don't want him around. Again, it's Tillery, so that all is a big IF.