Blackwatch

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    Fire Sale???

    I actually understood why they had to re-sign Conley, and I don't hate his contract (don't love it either). Small market and bad drafting necessitates overpaying for talent. But I agree that they should have traded Gasol, and possibly Z-Bo if they could get better value. I think When Joegger left, Sac would have traded Boogie Cousins for Gasol straight up. That would have placed the Grizz on a solid foundation for years to come.
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    How does everyone feel about GnG 2.0?

    Let me rephrase then. The TEAM will be lucky to score 75 pts./nite with that starting lineup. LOL!!!!
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    How does everyone feel about GnG 2.0?

    That starting lineup would be lucky to score 75 a nite.
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    How does everyone feel about GnG 2.0?

    I agree, they should move on from Gasol, and perhaps give Conley another year or two. But they definitely shouldn't be drafting and FA shopping with those two as the center of any future plans. I don't think GnG is just a marketing plan though. I think it is a legit way to compete against the Dubs. The Dubs game is essentially volume shooting; if you jack up enough shots with good to great NBA shooters, eventually you'll score enough to win. The perfect D in that system is limit the shots. You do that by limiting possessions, and you do that by slowing the game down, D'ing up, and valuing every possession; GnG!!! If the Dubs take (not necessarily make, but TAKE) five less shots per quarter while shooting the same percentages, they are beatable. Do the math, they would score a lot less. GnG is also a smart way to build a competitive team in a market like Memphis. It doesn't take "unicorn"-like talent to give a rats behind about defense, just NBA athleticism and the right mentality and effort. JJJ and Carter fit that mold perfectly. But the team still needs more consistent scoring. Perhaps Mar Brooks can provide that, but their best case scenario is that the leading scorer for this team isn't on the roster yet, and hopefully they can find that 20 pts./game scorer in FA.
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    Grizz shopping Parsons....and our 4thūüėě

    "Captain meat sweats" has got to be the line of the season :-) LOL!!!! But yes, If you really want to be a player in this trade scenario, make Gasol and Conley available. Ain't no rings coming from them alone as the foundation of a team. I would say Gasol and the 4th Pick for the #1 pick, a second rounder and a Vet Big and see what bites. Also, did you notice that no one on the Celtics, who made the Eastern Conference Finals , will make as much money as Conley next year. Incredible. Show you the worth of good GM.
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    Grizz shopping Parsons....and our 4thūüėě

    Some on here don't like the trade option with Parsons tied to the pick, and I get it, it diminishes the value of the pick to tie Parsons' ridiculous contract to it. But, if nothing else, for my psyche towards this team, I'd feel better that they shipped Parsons out. He really symbolizes the incompetence of the Front Office and also signals that possibly a Grizz move could be imminent, in that they really seem to not care about what endears this team to this city if they go another year bringing Parsons off the bench for $24 million. But I am also weary of the notion that they wouldn't want Bagley or Bamba because they have Marc Gasol. There is no way they should be making any plans about the future of this team building around Marc Gasol. Very low ceiling with him at this point, especially if you are not going to shape this team to defend and play at a slower pace to counter the Dubs. This team needs scoring in the worst way, and Gasol/Conley ain't the answer. Perhaps they feel they can lock up Reke for the Mid-level exception, but that doesn't appear promising. If the draft pick can't bring about 18 pts a nite, we are looking at another 22 win season. Without the future picks and free agent pull to get much better, it looks like a few more years of futility to me.
  7. If this is true, then the Front Office has to be held to account for the moves that instilled no confidence from Bamba in Memphis. When you go into a season set on making the playoffs, then fire your second year hot-shot coach, who let the two best players on the team walk for nothing, and promptly lose 60 games, doesn't say much for a team with a solid plan going forward. Bamba was an intriguing option. He has a skill set, physical attributes, and supreme intelligence to be a great player at the NBA level. No reason why he should have had to make it known he didn't want to be in Memphis (if he did) other than the sheer incompetence of the front office. Its one thing to have players that are NBA good by not otherworldly talents, elite talent is at a premium. There is no excuse for front office incompetence.
  8. My suspicions were confirmed !!! In the article in the Commercial Appeal about Pera's interview with Grind City Media, it was noted that Parsons signed that crazy deal without a physical. "A hyped up free-agent signing of forward Chandler Parsons in 2016 hasn’t worked to the Grizzlies’ benefit. Not only did the Grizzlies waive a physical for Parsons, but the veteran also needed a third surgery in three years during the 2016-17 campaign." How can anyone trust moving forward that this team leadership can build a contender?
  9. I have a sneaky suspicion they are gonna take a flyer on Porter. They need to get a franchise player in this draft, but I'm not confident that this leadership knows what that looks like in the 21st century NBA. They truly believe Gasol is a franchise player, Incredible.
  10. I stand corrected. The article about the Pera interview confirmed the waiver. I changed the title of the thread. Thanks for the catch.
  11. I have been saying this for years, slow the game down, D'Up, and value every possession on O. But you have to score more than 80 pts/gm, which is why the Grizz couldn't close the deal against the Dubs.
  12. Seems to be a popular theme around here about "how Fizdale treated Gasol". All he asked was for Gasol to be the leader that the FO thinks he is. If anything he exposed Gasol for the role player he is. It's not a bad thing to be a role player, and its not his fault that the FO over values and Gasol markets him as the leader and foundation of the team, but all Fizdale did was expose a need. The FO didn't like it (because the need is a change there), and sent Fizdale packing. Trust, I'm not a Fizdale fan, he didn't see the value in what was already in Memphis and maybe was a little arrogant in his approach with the team, but he didn't do anything to Gasol that shouldn't have been done 2 or 3 years ago. In terms of Conley, again, a great role player that has been overvalued by the FO. Conley is more of leader than Gasol, but he isn't a talent I would build an NBA contender around. He's great to have on the team, but be sure to look for a "Batman" to his "Robin" if you want to contend. Just too inconsistent in production to realistically build around (don't underestimate his influence in the whole Parsons deal). He's great PR, and he's great in the locker room, but he needs consistent, elite talent on the floor to be effective.
  13. JB had a chance this year, tanking or not tanking. He was the leader of a squad that , though was not trying to win, didn't seem to be responding to his leadership well. He maybe a great coach, but this year didn't impress. Definitely not enough to warrant getting hired without even looking at other candidates. IF he was able to keep them competitive this year, even while tanking, and was a magnetic personality PR wise, then perhaps this move was a genius move or having a great opportunity just fall in your lap. But this seems uninspired and self -loathing.
  14. Lazy, unimaginative hire. The team didn't believe in Him. If Gasol and Conley like him its only because he will let them loaf and do what they want without accountability. The team got blown out by 60 and was laughing about it afterwards. Gasol didn't want to play for JB, Gasol won't play for Life long "career assistants" who never played at the NBA level, as was shown how he treated Fizdale. . The team needed to do due diligence and conduct a search. JB came with Fizdale, no way they have a definite plan and it included JB as the coach. Just a lazy, unimaginative, and "cheap" hire.
  15. Hey, Since we are finally at the end of thisdreadful season, I thought I would offer up thoughts on how the draft could shape up and what I would like to see as the roster going into next Yearr. I think The Grizz have to take Ayton from AZ at this point. He is long, athletic and strong enough to anchor the post for years to come. I think this is the end of the rope for JaMych Green. Just doesn't bring enough consistently to be the starting 4 on a contending NBA team. Conley is a great NBA PG. Gasol can work as a "Stretch 5" as long as there is a post presence or a dynamic wing on the floor to shoulder the bulk of the scoring load. Stretch Parsons; that ship has sailed and send Wallace on it with him. No need to have him on the team disrupting chemistry. I think M. Brooks and Reke are serviceable wings if the team has good depth (Seldon, D. Brooks). So a starting 5 would be Conley -PG M. Brooks - SG Reke -SF Ayton-PF Gasol-C Bench- Harrison/Simmons-PG Seldon-SG D. Brooks-SF I Rabb/J. Martin-PF Deonte Davis/FA-C That team could compete for Home court in the West. What do you guys think?
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    Head Coach Thread

    I think they should make a run at either Marc Jackson or Kevin McHale (or maybe Jason Kidd). They need a vet coach who was a former respected player to keep Gasol's attention. No more assistant coach/lifers getting a shot at their first head coaching gig. Gasol won't respect them .
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    Pre-Draft 18-19 Squad Prediction

    If the draft pick is not in the starting line-up, then why tank? This year proves that the best player on the team next year is not on the roster yet, Mike Conley included. If the best player on next year's team played at all this year, we are looking at another sub- 25 win season. Any starting line-up with Parsons and J-mych is mediocre at best. They cannot go into next year with them in the starting line-up and justify tanking this year. You tank to get better players than what you have in the draft. If the draft can't provide that, then why tank? Go after talent in the FA market.
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    Pre-Draft 18-19 Squad Prediction

    Because success in today's NBA means finding a "unicorn", other-worldly player (LeBron, Stef, Hardin, KD, AD). Everybody is looking for that 3 and Dunk player that there maybe only 5 to 7 in the league at one time. And none of those guys will play in Memphis. But, Memphis can attract that player that is smart, hard working, tough, and disciplined that , if put in the right system, can be part of a winning team (think San Antonio). Ayton isn't a "unicorn" in today's NBA, but, plugged into the right system, can be part of a winning team. The key for the Grizz is to commit to a system, a philosophy, on how to construct the team, play, and sustain success (which they have not done up until this point). For all that Fizz brought to the table, he assumed that Memphis could be like the Dubs or the Rockets, and we can't. G-n-G is not just a marketing tool, but a philosophy that the team must adapt in order to field a competitive team each year. The twin towers approach is some thing that is now novel in the league and could work, forcing other team to play a totally different style than they are used to. The team would have to go away from the "switch everything D" that everyone wants to play and commit to solid rotations on D. This takes smarts and discipline, thus the need to get players who are smart and disciplined, and willing to work.
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    Tankzzlies

    This is a great point! The "New NBA" only works if you have the players. Memphis will not attract players like Steph Curry, Lebron, or Anthony Davis, James Hardin, etc. But, there are ways to build a team that can compete, put fans in the stands, and make the city proud. They need hard nosed, smart, physical players who sell out on D. It doesn't take other worldly talent to do those things. It takes discipline, dedication, and strong work ethic. There at players in the league and in college that would flourish in a system like that, and the team could compete well with the elites. But, the leadership must be intentional and focused on such a philosophy and plan. It doesn't appear this leadership is focused at all. Keep in mind that Philly is now 10 games above .500 for the first time since 2002-2003 season. That is 16 years of sheer , putrid play. Tanking is not a guarantee that you will get better in the future. Strong leadership, a solid organizational philosophy, and a good plan for drafting, coaching, and style of play must be in place, whether you tank or not, in order for a team to thrive in Memphis. This year has shown that the Grizz lack all of the above. Unless some serious turnover happens in the leadership of this team, we are looking at a run of futility like the Sixers have had, at least.
  20. Well, Marc Gasol says he's "frustrated" because the Grizz are not winning this year. Yet, he has also posted some of the worst stats of his career in the process. In this article from Yahoo, Gasol says that while he tries to be encouraging to the young players and lead by example, he doesn't think the NBA is a place for teams to develop players. "That's why we have a G-league team here in Memphis. This is the NBA, not the G-League". I for one find it quite interesting that Gasol is frustrated over the tanking season while many on here have been calling for this for the past 2 or 3 years. Letting Z-Bo and TA walk was a recipe for disaster. Now we are in the midst of that very disaster, with no real plan for a turnaround in sight. In Pro sports, winning and winning now, and winning often must be the conceptual framework for running a franchise. If you have to "tank" in order to get better, that is a sign of inept management. In a market like Memphis, there are not enough people with the money needed to support a team with no shot at winning each and every night. That is what we have right now in the Grizz. This can't happen too much longer here, or the team will be the Seattle or San Jose Grizzlies in a few years.
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    Marc Gasol "Frustrated" over Season

    Full Tank !!!!
  22. Great Info. I think it also shows that you are probably good to try and trade future draft picks for "can't miss" players rather than tank. Tanking happens only if you deplete the current roster of all talent. One player with a bunch of scrubs will not win in the NBA today. You are probably better off trying to win with the talent you have, while scouting out the best young talent, and being shrewd in positioning yourself to trade up in a particular draft (by offering future picks) to get that player. Tanking is more risk than reward. You lose games, fans, and free agents if you tank too hard for too long. But, if you are competitive, and you see a can't miss prospect that will go in the lottery, offer up future picks and possibly a good vet rotational guy for him. That way, you add elite talent to a talented, winning team, rather than to a scrub, losing team. And, possible FA's won't mind coming to your team because they could make a deep run in the Playoffs immediately and not have to be part of a years long rebuild. Scouting is key in this plan though, because you would have to trade away future picks, so the prospect has to be an dynamic and high impact player right away and for years to come. Doesn't have to be Hall of Fame or G.O.A.T. worthy (can't necessarily plan for that kind of talent), but they have to be an elite contemporary player with regular all-star appearances at least, to make the draft picks worth it. The only way to know this is through scouting, good scouting that actually formulate your draft and team structure.
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    Marc Gasol "Frustrated" over Season

    He was a part of the success. But, individual awards are suspect. Part of his "All-Star" accolades could be attributed to being voted in as a center, at a time when there were fewer and fewer true centers in the league. Notice now they do not vote "Centers " in anymore, just guards and forwards. Even his DPOY award was questioned around the league. He was awarded it, but he didn't lead the league in steals or blocks that year. He was a part of the success, but he never led the team in scoring AND rebounding in any of the years where he and Z-Bo were starters. He led in scoring by about 1 pt. more than Z-Bo in 14-15 and 15-16, but Z-Bo out rebounded him both of those years. Years prior, Z-bo led the team in both categories, after Gay left. even When Fiz took over and the team was in the playoffs, Fiz had to start Z-Bo just to compete with the Spurs, Gasol was MIA. So, my point is that he was never THE primary contributor on those winning teams. He was an important part, but not prime. Teams definitely keyed in on Z-bo later on, giving Gasol more opportunities.
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    Marc Gasol "Frustrated" over Season

    I don't expect him to be Dirk, but the front office apparently does, thus they want to build around him. That is my critique of the team, why build around a complementary player? All Gasol has ever been is a good to great complementary player. Yet, the FO treats him like he's Dirk. This is detrimental because they make decisions about players, coaches, etc. based on Gasol, and that is where I plead inept management. Personally, I respect Gasol for what he has done to help create a culture around the Grizz that the city has embraced, but in order for the team to win on a consistent and high level, no way should they be firing coaches and trading players to suit him. He hasn't done enough on the court to warrant that type of treatment.
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    Marc Gasol "Frustrated" over Season

    The whole point of the article was Gasol's frustrations over losing. He is trying to lead, but is frustrated that the other players are "developing" while they should be developed enough to help the team win. Thus, his quote about the G-League and the NBA. I didn't make it up, Gasol connects winning and losing with having to play with "developing" players, hence his frustration. If he didn't connect those ideas, why even bring up the G-league?