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2 1/2 games with 10 games left is larger than you think. I just think with the Warriors having 5 home games left and one of their 4 remaining road games against Portland, they’ll at least win 6 games which means Minnesota would have to go 8-1 to pass them. I just believe when Luka comes back they’ll hold onto 6. I honestly don’t see a world where Minnesota passes the Clippers, they’d likely have to go 8-1 or 7-2 to make that happen. To me it’s a 3 horse race between Minnesota, OKC & Utah. For myself I’d want Minnesota because it would be an entertaining series. For guaranteed 2nd round status I want Utah.
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Maybe Ja can win the Most Improved Player Award next season. Guessing he would be the only TWO TIME winner.
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Where Ja could have an argument is if the Grizzlies end up closer to Denver than to the Kings for the 2nd seed, a comfortable #2 seed. He has to rely on the team success narrative to get in over a few of these guys. And there needs to be an amazing highlight game or story to work in Ja's favor. I don't really see another path (barring injury or several guys sat down for several games). Brown could have his votes split between G and F, and probably isn't a realistic candidate. Harden missing the AST may help his cause, especially if the Sixers end up catching Boston for #2 seed. I think for some, not all, voters, the tie-breaker goes to the better team. If guessing now: Steph, Luka and Dame seem like the locks. Mitchell is my 4th, Fox my 5th. Brunson, SGA, and Harden are in front of Ja. However, I could post about this next week and completely change my mind, and I think a lot of voters are like that too.
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Houston Rockets vs Memphis Grizzlies - 3/22/23
Grizzfan7979 replied to chipc3's topic in Grizzlies Team Talk
I'd rather take the 2/3. There's a pretty decent chance the Nuggets lose before the conference finals and I don't want any part of the Kevin Durant suns. Although lord knows they have a tough closing stretch so god knows where they end up. -
Around the NBA - 2022-23 Season
Grizzfan7979 replied to ThaGhostOfThaBeet's topic in Grizzlies Team Talk
Somebody let sports media know. My god all i hear is Kings Kings Kings how they're the 2 seed they're the 2 seed how exciting how good is this kings team what a story we love the kings we love the kings blah blah blah. Power rankings have us consistently 9th now which is a little absurd. When we had our terrible stretch ok but nobody appears to have noticed that all our players aren't missing every shot now and we're actually rounding into form at the right time and by the way are about to get our all NBA franchise player back and also get back our starting center (we hope). Everybody wrote us off when we had our bad stretch, which every team has had at various points, and nobody has bothered to notice what's happening now. -
Around the NBA - 2022-23 Season
Grizzfan7979 replied to ThaGhostOfThaBeet's topic in Grizzlies Team Talk
I love players like Yuta who don't give a crap about the highlight play because they realize it's still just 2 points. Immediately getting the ball back in to get transition the other way. Smart. -
The thing is, Ja really doesn't have a statistical argument over many of these guys. Luka, Dame, Steph, SGA are just having better statistical seasons flat out, compare them side by side, there's no argument for Ja. Fox has him beaten pretty much everywhere except slight edge in ppg/apg/rpg for Ja but doesn't overcome defense and clutch scoring and more games played. He looks pretty boxed out to me. You can try to parse it with the last spot but I don't see it, Mitchell has similar resume, brown has similar resume but better D,
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Ja played 57 games last year. I don’t think games played is going to be the issue. I think the issue will be if voters punish Ja for his antics. They may not call it a punishment, but it will definitely make plenty of them lean towards voting for Mitchell, SGA, Booker, Fox, or Dame over him.
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These things don't exist in a vacuum. If Steph gets above 50 he's making an All-NBA team. Fox is going to make it over Ja. He's played 10 more games. He's a better defender. His clutch stats are apparently amazing and he's the #1 clutch scorer in the NBA. Kings have a good story. And fox is shooting better from the field and from 3 than Ja by a decent amount. Side by side it's very difficult to make a case for Ja, slightly more counting stats but I doubt that's enough to sway anybodu. Luka and Dame will get to 60 and make it. Mitchell will get a spot because somebody from the Cavs has to make it. I don't rate Harden but it's an argument to be had for him. The SGA stuff annoys the crap out of me, he's a foul baiting player getting to the line >10 times/game by lurching into people. I can't wait for the refs to stop giving him that crap like they did with Trae. But everybody in the media loves him so I think he's got a spot. If Brown is considered a guard I think he's over Ja. Booker comes down to games played and is right there with ja. Brunson hasn't been as good as Ja but New York. I'd be really surprised if Ja made it honestly. The narrative stuff is going to drive down votes for him also.
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Around the NBA - 2022-23 Season
ThaGhostOfThaBeet replied to ThaGhostOfThaBeet's topic in Grizzlies Team Talk
Kings lose to Celtics. If we beat Rockets tomorrow night, we are up 2 on them. -
Houston Rockets vs Memphis Grizzlies - 3/22/23
Grizzled Vet replied to chipc3's topic in Grizzlies Team Talk
The top 3 odds are all the same, and they pretty much have that locked up. I guess they could play for a better pick if they don't get in top 4. Their 2nd round pick is outgoing. Last week, the Rockets won 3 in a row against decent to good teams (Celtics, Lakers, Pelicans), so while I don't think the Grizzlies lose this first game, I'm concerned about dropping the Friday night one, especially if Wednesday's is a blowout. -
Houston Rockets vs Memphis Grizzlies - 3/22/23
10SC-2-TOKYO replied to chipc3's topic in Grizzlies Team Talk
True… Also - the players move more. That’s on them to keep moving … Ja is a point guard who has no problems finding the open man … they’ve got to stop standing and watching and play ball. they can they will . throw it up already -
Houston Rockets vs Memphis Grizzlies - 3/22/23
smit-tay griz replied to chipc3's topic in Grizzlies Team Talk
The ball moves more. -
Assuming he comes back and finishes close to what he was pre-suspension, I think Ja will be fine on games played, especially if Luka misses any more time. Before the Houston game on Wednesday, Ja is at 53 games. Games played through tonight (potential guard candidates for All-NBA) Ant Edwards, Tyus Jones 71 Lavine 67 Trae, Fox, Brunson 64 Garland, 62 Mitchell 61 SGA, Jaylen Brown 60 Luka 57 games. Has not returned from injury. Dame 57 Kyrie, JA, Harden 53 CP3 50 Bane 49 Steph 47 Booker 44 Luka needs to return as I think that 55-58 games played is close to minimum. Booker probably needs to play all the remaining games just to get to 55. Steph needs them all to get to 56. If those 3 don't get in, that makes a huge difference. Probably the difference between Ja making 3rd team or not. It will also be interesting to see how many guards they'll want from the East because 1 or 2 is a realistic number. Realistic candidate list (ordered from most to least games played, not in any other order). Fox, Brunson, Mitchell, SGA, Jaylen Brown, Luka, Dame, Ja, Harden, Steph, Booker.
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Team Hero Grizzlies v Mavs 03/20/2023
smit-tay griz replied to BigHunkALove's topic in Grizzlies Team Talk
Or your rules? Did we have some kind of vote? I only remember @Subliminal threatening demerits. -
Team Hero Grizzlies v Mavs 03/20/2023
smit-tay griz replied to BigHunkALove's topic in Grizzlies Team Talk
Ah, your rules, eh? -
Around the NBA - 2022-23 Season
Grizzled Vet replied to ThaGhostOfThaBeet's topic in Grizzlies Team Talk
Most NBA players roll out of there becaue that was a monstrous dunk. That was also an offensive clear out with his off hand, but I know that the only time that something like that is ever called is if one of the big names is the defensive players and someone like Dillon is the offensive player doing the clear out. -
I don't have the energy to worry about it any more. As long as Brooks plays for us, he will have an oversized impact on our potential, for better or worse. That's just the way it is. We'll see what happens this offseason. I'm interested in the value the Grizzlies put on him v. the value Dillon puts on himself. But I have a feeling he will be able to be had at a reasonable price. He has made so many enemies in the league, I don't see many teams opening their checkbooks for him.
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Houston Rockets vs Memphis Grizzlies - 3/22/23
TT_Grizz replied to chipc3's topic in Grizzlies Team Talk
Getting the #1 seed could be the difference between us making the finals or not given how strong we are at home vs on the road
