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#241 BHZMAFIA

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Posted 27 July 2016 - 10:10 AM

They haven't struggled to win games through their health concerns.  So they are more justified in ignoring them. The Grizzlies health concerns has landed them a low playoff seed 2 out of the last 3 years.

 

Its been a concern for them over the last 3-4 years when it comes to the playoffs. They lost to an overachieving Portland team last year (who was worse than the team we beat) because CP3 and Blake went down in Game 4. I also think they've had the luxury of having at least 1 of Blake or CP3 playing throughout the season when the other player was out. i.e. Blake's great year in 2013-14 when CP3 missed 20 games, CP3 playing all 82 when Blake missed 15 in 2014-15 and we all know what happened last year.

 

We've had health concerns every single season, but we've still been able to remain a .610 win % team in all of those years. 

 

I'm in agreeance of the injury concerns, but I think its being overblown. I don't think it should be used to justify a team's ranking for next season unless its guaranteed a particular player is out for the year. 

Its a lot of people (or at least through NBA conversation) who think Conley is actually coming off a serious injury as well. 



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Posted 27 July 2016 - 10:24 AM

Its been a concern for them over the last 3-4 years when it comes to the playoffs. They lost to an overachieving Portland team last year (who was worse than the team we beat) because CP3 and Blake went down in Game 4. I also think they've had the luxury of having at least 1 of Blake or CP3 playing throughout the season when the other player was out. i.e. Blake's great year in 2013-14 when CP3 missed 20 games, CP3 playing all 82 when Blake missed 15 in 2014-15 and we all know what happened last year.
 
We've had health concerns every single season, but we've still been able to remain a .610 win % team in all of those years. 
 
I'm in agreeance of the injury concerns, but I think its being overblown. I don't think it should be used to justify a team's ranking for next season unless its guaranteed a particular player is out for the year. 
Its a lot of people (or at least through NBA conversation) who think Conley is actually coming off a serious injury as well.


But still whats wrong with calling them a 7 seed when they were a 7 seed two years ago and tied for 6 last year?

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Posted 27 July 2016 - 11:03 AM

But still whats wrong with calling them a 7 seed when they were a 7 seed two years ago and tied for 6 last year?

 

That's like me mentioning the Spurs being a 6th seed a year ago lol.

 

We were also basically the 4th seed record wise and a .5 game back from 3rd during our last reasonably healthy year. And our 7th seed was due to Marc playing in 59 games. I've yet to see Marc have b2b seasons of playing less than 60 games. Maybe it happens this year, but I hope not. 

 

My main concern is who they have ahead of Memphis. Of coure you have GSW, then maybe the Spurs and LAC. But, then you start putting an overachieving Portland team, Utah making a drastic jump (I think they will be good, but not going for non playoffs to a top 5 seed and potentially homecourt), and a team that just lost Durant. That's the issue. 

But still whats wrong with calling them a 7 seed when they were a 7 seed two years ago and tied for 6 last year?

 

That's like me mentioning the Spurs being a 6th seed a year ago lol.

 

We were also basically the 4th seed record wise and a .5 game back from 3rd during our last reasonably healthy year. And our 7th seed was due to Marc playing in 59 games. I've yet to see Marc have b2b seasons of playing less than 60 games. Maybe it happens this year, but I hope not. 

 

My main concern is who they have ahead of Memphis. Of coure you have GSW, then maybe the Spurs and LAC. But, then you start putting a Durant-less OKC team, an overachieving Portland team who should be expected to take a step back after the West had an odd down year and Utah who I anticipate being good but not good enough to potentially have homecourt in the 1st round.

Do I anticipate a 1 game improvement from last season that was a down year due to drastic injury cases or something more in line with what our win% has been throughout the last 3-4 years WITH injuries involved? 



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Posted 27 July 2016 - 11:27 AM

I like when sites do predictions cuz every now n then ill plug it into nba live n simulate the playoffs lol.

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Posted 27 July 2016 - 01:12 PM

That's like me mentioning the Spurs being a 6th seed a year ago lol.
 
We were also basically the 4th seed record wise and a .5 game back from 3rd during our last reasonably healthy year. And our 7th seed was due to Marc playing in 59 games. I've yet to see Marc have b2b seasons of playing less than 60 games. Maybe it happens this year, but I hope not. 
 
My main concern is who they have ahead of Memphis. Of coure you have GSW, then maybe the Spurs and LAC. But, then you start putting an overachieving Portland team, Utah making a drastic jump (I think they will be good, but not going for non playoffs to a top 5 seed and potentially homecourt), and a team that just lost Durant. That's the issue. 

 
That's like me mentioning the Spurs being a 6th seed a year ago lol.
 
We were also basically the 4th seed record wise and a .5 game back from 3rd during our last reasonably healthy year. And our 7th seed was due to Marc playing in 59 games. I've yet to see Marc have b2b seasons of playing less than 60 games. Maybe it happens this year, but I hope not. 
 
My main concern is who they have ahead of Memphis. Of coure you have GSW, then maybe the Spurs and LAC. But, then you start putting a Durant-less OKC team, an overachieving Portland team who should be expected to take a step back after the West had an odd down year and Utah who I anticipate being good but not good enough to potentially have homecourt in the 1st round.

Do I anticipate a 1 game improvement from last season that was a down year due to drastic injury cases or something more in line with what our win% has been throughout the last 3-4 years WITH injuries involved?


And it could have made sense to predict the Spurs to stay in the 6 seed fange had they not signed a perennial AllStar. The Grizzlies signed Parsons but I think the point here is that the folks at ESPN dont see him as an impact player. They dont see the injuries as an anomoly and something that will correct itself. They see an injury prone team with a lack of star power to carry them through the hard times.

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Posted 27 July 2016 - 01:35 PM

Grizzlies are not making the playoffs

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Posted 27 July 2016 - 02:01 PM

Grizzlies are not making the playoffs


+1

Will be battling the lakers for worst in the west, and this is with perfect health. You heard it here second folks

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Posted 27 July 2016 - 02:45 PM

Just. Tank.

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Posted 27 July 2016 - 02:58 PM

Just. Tank.


Seriously. This is the year.

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Posted 27 July 2016 - 05:22 PM

+1

Will be battling the lakers for worst in the west, and this is with perfect health. You heard it here second folks

 

LOL   Subliminal has just broken his sarcasm meter!



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Posted 27 July 2016 - 10:43 PM

I wish we were battling with the Lakers, we'll be fighting for 9th

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Posted 27 July 2016 - 11:04 PM

I wish we were battling with the Lakers, we'll be fighting for 9th


LOL. Grizz will be last spot at full strength what are you on bro bro.

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Posted 30 July 2016 - 10:52 PM

This is about to be a long two months :( At least football is almost back B)



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Posted 31 July 2016 - 02:59 AM

This is about to be a long two months :( At least football is almost back B)

Olympic basketball starts in a week though. Do you guys get any games on TV other than the ones the US play?



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Posted 31 July 2016 - 03:15 AM

Olympic basketball starts in a week though. Do you guys get any games on TV other than the ones the US play?

 

I doubt it, but honestly have no idea. 



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Posted 31 July 2016 - 09:04 AM

Grizzlies are not making the playoffs


Playoffs? I just hope we can win a game.

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Posted 31 July 2016 - 11:12 AM

Playoffs? I just hope we can win a game.

That's what the preseason is for



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Posted 31 July 2016 - 11:23 AM

Grizzlies are not making the playoffs

If I were a betting man I would take that bet.  The only way the Grizzlies miss the playoffs is if we still have injury problems.



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Posted 31 July 2016 - 12:59 PM

Grizzlies will be 3rd or 4th. If we get some luck with injuries on other teams we can make a run. I don't know how deep but we can make a run.



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Posted 31 July 2016 - 02:43 PM

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