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Who would have a greater super-team
swift_tee
post Jul 26 2010, 02:52 PM
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Just a thought...If CP3 and Carmello Anthony joined Amare next year in New York, would they be better than the new big three in Miami?
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post Jul 26 2010, 03:08 PM
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QUOTE (swift_tee @ Jul 26 2010, 03:52 PM) *
Just a thought...If CP3 and Carmello Anthony joined Amare next year in New York, would they be better than the new big three in Miami?

That would be a hell of a team, but Miami would still take the cake!

On a scale of 1-10 in terms of talent,

Mello-8
CP3-9
Amare-7

DWade-10
Bosh-8
Bron-10

Besides, unless much else changes, Miami would have the stronger bench as well.
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swift_tee
post Jul 26 2010, 03:38 PM
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QUOTE (Gasol_The_Great @ Jul 26 2010, 10:08 PM) *
That would be a hell of a team, but Miami would still take the cake!

On a scale of 1-10 in terms of talent,

Mello-8
CP3-9
Amare-7

DWade-10
Bosh-8
Bron-10

Besides, unless much else changes, Miami would have the stronger bench as well.

I agree, except that I rate Carmello as a 10 because he may not be as athletic as Lebron, but he is a better shooter.
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post Jul 26 2010, 04:37 PM
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QUOTE (swift_tee @ Jul 26 2010, 11:38 PM) *
I agree, except that I rate Carmello as a 10 because he may not be as athletic as Lebron, but he is a better shooter.


To me, a 9. And Bosh a 7.
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post Jul 26 2010, 05:13 PM
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Melo-6
CP3-6
Amare-6

DWade-7
Bosh-6
Bron-10

I think this is more to scale.
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post Jul 26 2010, 05:15 PM
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QUOTE (Kenrae @ Jul 26 2010, 10:37 PM) *
To me, a 9. And Bosh a 7.

I also think that CP3 is the x factor because he is such a dominant point guard that he will dictate most of the action for the other players and who would win a seven game series would go to seven and be a toss-up
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post Jul 26 2010, 05:28 PM
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QUOTE (Coubs @ Jul 26 2010, 06:13 PM) *
Melo-6
CP3-6
Amare-6

DWade-7
Bosh-6
Bron-10

I think this is more to scale.

Wade Melo Cp3 are closer to half way decent?? Do you watch basketball? Bron has how many rings?? Wade did what in his second year? CP3 is the best point guard in the league?? Amare on same level as melo cp3?? Maybe bosh but those guys?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

LOL just sayin..
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post Jul 26 2010, 05:55 PM
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QUOTE (inyofacez55 @ Jul 26 2010, 06:28 PM) *
Wade Melo Cp3 are closer to half way decent?? Do you watch basketball? Bron has how many rings?? Wade did what in his second year? CP3 is the best point guard in the league?? Amare on same level as melo cp3?? Maybe bosh but those guys?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

LOL just sayin..



I got something even better? I know we don't have the money but here is the TEAM TO BEAT!

PG: Chris Paul
SG: OJ Mayo
SF: Rudy Gay
PF: Carmelo Anthony
C: Marc Gasol/Thabeet

You can probably do it once Zach 17.9 million expires....
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post Jul 27 2010, 02:25 AM
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I'm not saying at all that the Knicks with Paul would be better than the Heat but it brings up a point I have really been wondering about...

Don't take this as a criticism against Bosh, but I still don't see how his skill set really complements Lebron and Wade on the same team that much when considering the financial aspects.

I know there are a lot of aspects to consider, including people willing to sign for less to play with these guys, but if I were given the choice to use Bosh's salary to either pay Bosh or round out the team, I would round out the team.

Instead of committing a big chuck of payroll to a scorer/rebounder in Bosh, I would divvy that up between a defensive/rebounding specialist in the post with at minimum an average to capable scorer/rebounder/defensive post player while rounding out the bench.

It all comes down to the fact that against the Lakers, you have to be able to match up against their post presence. Bosh can ball, but at best he and Gasol are going to basically cancel each other out in the larger scope of things leaving the Lakers in a distinct advantage in that area.
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post Jul 27 2010, 02:16 PM
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Good read on Henry!!!!!


With that in mind, let’s take a look at the two players (with Greivis Vasquez tomorrow) the Grizzlies just drafted, and what players that are already in the league that their skills might mirror.

NBA Comparison - Mike Miller

- Shooting: Like Miller, Xavier is cash from beyond the arc, but is not strictly a three point shooter. He can also shoot well from mid-range, is good as a catch and shoot guy, and can create his own shot with step-backs against smaller guards.

Don’t get it twisted, Xavier is not going to come in and immediately be the deadeye marksman that Miller is right now. Almost every rookie take some time to adjust to the longer arc. But Henry’s collegiate shooting numbers were more impressive and he's a gym rat, so he’s definitely got at least that type of potential.





- Rebounding: Miller’s got a couple inches on Xavier, but Xavier is also more athletic. Overall I expect X to be a player of similar rebounding prowess to Miller; somebody who will grab loose boards pretty well for his position.

Henry has the body to bang inside at 6’6’’, 220 pounds, but he definitely appeared tentative at times last season at when it came to mixing it up inside or hitting the glass. Part of this could be because he played with a massive frontcourt, which really didn’t need any help grabbing rebounds. If X makes it a point to rebound with max effort, he’s going to be good for 4-6 rebounds with starter's minutes.

- Efficiency: Henry has proven that, just like Mike Miller, he knows when to get his and when to back off. Part of what makes Miller such a favorite with both fans and teammates is that even though his game is versatile, he doesn’t jack up a ton of shots to get his buckets. Xavier was the same way at Kansas. He was the ultimate people pleaser, letting Sherron Collin’s fat *** hoist up as many ill advised shots as he wanted, and quietly scoring whenever the offense could fit him in.

Some scouts consider that a negative in the NBA draft process, because that type of mindset will get you eaten alive, not living up to your potential, or leave you floating and settling for jumpers too often. Rudy Gay suffered the same criticism.

I really don’t think so. Henry wasn't like Derrick Favors, putting up mediocre numbers for a bad team. He put up solid numbers for the best team in the country. In short he fit in and was very productive. Just like Miller will probably be with the Heat for the next half decade.



Best case: X is could be a star. Don’t forget, this kid will be just 19 basically all of his rookie year, and he was the number 8 ranked player in the Rivals 2009 high school class rankings (and he was tied for number 1 on ESPN) . So I’ll go Joe Johnson here: A bigger guard who can shoot, score, distribute, and defend with the best of them. Xavier does have a ceiling because his athleticism isn't elite, so he’ll never be Kobe or D-Wade, but he can still be pretty **** good.


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post Jul 29 2010, 12:04 PM
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QUOTE (The People's Champ @ Jul 27 2010, 09:16 PM) *
Good read on Henry!!!!!

I really don’t think so. Henry wasn't like Derrick Favors, putting up mediocre numbers for a bad team. He put up solid numbers for the best team in the country. In short he fit in and was very productive. Just like Miller will probably be with the Heat for the next half decade.



that "bad" team beat #1 Championship winning team, DUKE in regular season, lost barely in finals to DUKE in ACC tournament, and puched ticket to the NCAA Tournament. But I guess any old bad sad sack team can do that...
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post Jul 30 2010, 01:12 PM
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QUOTE (swift_tee @ Jul 26 2010, 03:52 PM) *
Just a thought...If CP3 and Carmello Anthony joined Amare next year in New York, would they be better than the new big three in Miami?


I'm thinking CP3 + Dwight Howard would be a title. We can fill in the blanks with Rashard Lewis or any all star or cusp of all star wing. Heck you can give them Rudy Gay and that would be a title team in my opinion.
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swift_tee
post Aug 18 2010, 07:20 PM
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Its starting to look offical...Melo is bailing out on Denver...now all we need is CP3 to leave Nawlins.


QUOTE (MAGNOLIAMANE @ Jul 30 2010, 08:12 PM) *
I'm thinking CP3 + Dwight Howard would be a title. We can fill in the blanks with Rashard Lewis or any all star or cusp of all star wing. Heck you can give them Rudy Gay and that would be a title team in my opinion.

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post Aug 18 2010, 11:29 PM
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QUOTE (swift_tee @ Aug 18 2010, 07:20 PM) *
Its starting to look offical...Melo is bailing out on Denver...now all we need is CP3 to leave Nawlins.

4 HEADED HYDRA IN THE EAST:
TONY PARKER, AMARE AND ANTHONY IN NEW YORK
THE SUPERFRIENDS IN MIAMI
DWIGHT AND CP3 IN ORLANDO
THE FANTASTIC FOUR IN BOSTON
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post Aug 19 2010, 01:26 PM
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I think better for Dwight Howard and CP3 to go to Atlanta:

CP3
JJ
Jsmooth
Horford
D12


ATL already said Horford is moving to the 4 so they must know something we don't know. plus the superfriends pattern is centered on big cities - Atlanta is the capital of the South so it's due for its own super team. Definitely won't be Orlando.
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