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#21 tennesseessio

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Posted 16 May 2015 - 04:15 PM

- Vince Carter will be beat out by Jordan Adams in training camp. I think Carter should be used in spot minutes or as an injury fill-in. There's a chance he'll just retire.

 

- Koufos, unfortunately, is done in Memphis. We can't afford him anymore, and he wants and will get more mpg elsewhere.

 

- Jeff Green will likely opt in. I'd like to keep him, unless we can package him in some kind of blockbuster type trade.

 

- Marc should be resigned if at all possible. He deserves a max deal. I'm not so much of a numbers guy, but hopefully we can accommodate him.

 

- We need some good low-price backup bigs. We can't rely on Stokes and Green and Leuer is proven to be unreliable. Guys like Cole Aldrich, Dante Cunningham, Aaron Baynes, Jeff Ayers are the type I'm looking at.

 

- I'd love to get more shooting from someone like Danny Green, Bellinelli, Dunleavy, Gerald Green. I'd blow my MLE on someone like that.

 

- Beno did a really good job for us, but his one major deffeciency is 3pt. shooting. Obviously he's great at mid-range, but he doesn't stretch the floor like an Aaron Brooks does. We need to stretch the floor. I don't know that I really want to get off Beno b/c he's good and cheap, but this is something I'd give some serious thought to.



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Posted 16 May 2015 - 04:21 PM

The chances are that JGreen will pick up his option, why would he give up that much money. I'm sure his agent told him the truth that the way he played this playoffs loss him any potential payday he could have made by opting out. Now his best option is to do as KBM said and take his chances next year playing into a better position.

 

KK is likely gone as he will look for a starting role.

 

Nick is gone and Leuer is a cheap bench filler.

 

The FO should demand that Adams and Smith play early and often to see what they have in them. Adams could fill the role of a starter or a rotation player easily. While Russ may night run a team as what is needed to back up Conley he could very well serve as a nice change of pace player and instant offense off of the bench.

 

They should also look to manage ZBo and Marc's minutes next season by getting a third big, a 6'9"-6'10" guy that is long and athletic.

 

 

I'm not sure why everybody thinks Kosta is going to look for a starting role. He's not going to any more money being a starter as he would being a bench guy, and even still I don't see him being able to start for any real playoff contending team since he is not a good ft shooter.

 

Kosta is what he is, which is a high level bench player.



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Posted 16 May 2015 - 04:50 PM

Minor tweaks to the supporting cast isn't going to push this core over the top

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Posted 16 May 2015 - 04:53 PM

Carroll would be great as the starting SF.


Kinda funny how things end up. When we drafted Carroll he couldn't hit the broadside of a barn, now look what he's doing in Atlanta. I would love to have him back provided he could keep up what he's doing

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Posted 17 May 2015 - 03:25 PM

The most ideal offseason in my opinion would be like this:

Trade beno, Vince, and Leuer (or stokes) to raptors to get back Vasquez and Patterson (Vince would then be able to retire as a raptor too so that would be pretty cool)

Trade Courtney and our pick to the pacers for their pick Use the pick on Devin Booker

Trade Tony and Jeff green together for a good small forward like butler. If not, then one or the other for Harrison Barnes.

Koufos is probably gone so get someone like ajinca to back up marc.

Our lineup would be:
Conley/ Vasquez/ russ
Booker or adams/ booker or adams
Butler or Barnes/some cheap sf on the market
Zach/ Patterson/ jam green
Marc/ ajinca

I know the chances for any of this happening is very slim but it would improve the roster, especially offensively. Dj would have no choice but to play adams and booker so we can have them develop over the long regular season so they can contribute in the playoffs. Again, I know this is probably not gonna happen but I'd be stoked if it did

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Posted 17 May 2015 - 04:27 PM

I don't see the need to draft a guy like Booker though. We have our future scorer/shooter at the SG position in Adams. We need a 3&D SF. I like Dekker. His ball handling needs to improve and his jumper needs to be more consistent but those can both be fixed,  He doesn't do one thing extremely well but he does everything you need of him.

 

If we can't trade up get Dekker target a guy like Justin Anderson or Rondae Hollis-Jefferson. If the FO doesn't like any of those guys go out and get Robert Covington.

 

What we really need is a guy that can create for himself. Jeff Green can't. Or at least it looks like he can't in our system.



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Posted 17 May 2015 - 04:33 PM

I don't see the need to draft a guy like Booker though. We have our future scorer/shooter at the SG position in Adams. We need a 3&D SF. I like Dekker. His ball handling needs to improve and his jumper needs to be more consistent but those can both be fixed, He doesn't do one thing extremely well but he does everything you need of him.

If we can't trade up get Dekker target a guy like Justin Anderson or Rondae Hollis-Jefferson. If the FO doesn't like any of those guys go out and get Robert Covington.

What we really need is a guy that can create for himself. Jeff Green can't. Or at least it looks like he can't in our system.

booker has the potential to become like klay Thompson and adams has the potential to become a Wes Matthews. Wouldn't it be nice to have 2 shooting guards capable of getting buckets in the future?

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Posted 17 May 2015 - 04:40 PM

booker has the potential to become like klay Thompson and adams has the potential to become a Wes Matthews. Wouldn't it be nice to have 2 shooting guards capable of getting buckets in the future?

When you put it that way it sounds really nice, but how would they mesh on the floor together? I just graduated from UK and watched Booker all year. Booker isn't and more than likely never will be a good defensive player. I don't think Adams will be either.

 

To critique my own opinion: I'm not so sure Dekker isn't a Jeff Green clone. I haven't watched enough of his tape to see if he can create for himself.



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Posted 17 May 2015 - 04:43 PM

When you put it that way it sounds really nice, but how would they mesh on the floor together? I just graduated from UK and watched Booker all year. Booker isn't and more than likely never will be a good defensive player. I don't think Adams will be either.

To reiterate on my point. I'm not so sure Dekker isn't a Jeff Green clone. I haven't watched enough of his tape to see if he can create for himself.

congrats on your graduation!
adams is already pretty solid on defense. Defense is something that can be tought especially in our system. Just look at how calathes has developed defensively.

As for dekker, I haven't watched him much so idk how he can do for us. I think adams and booker can develop chemistry together and become the next splash bros lol. (Not really) but they can really be the best way to solve our shooting problem

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Posted 17 May 2015 - 04:56 PM

congrats on your graduation!
adams is already pretty solid on defense. Defense is something that can be tought especially in our system. Just look at how calathes has developed defensively.

As for dekker, I haven't watched him much so idk how he can do for us. I think adams and booker can develop chemistry together and become the next splash bros lol. (Not really) but they can really be the best way to solve our shooting problem

Thanks!

 

Adams plays the passing lanes very well and is very good off the ball, however, his on ball defense needs to improve.

 

I'm just not very high on Booker. He can shoot the ball..but what can he do that RJ Hunter can't? I don't like the idea of trading up for Booker.



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Posted 17 May 2015 - 05:35 PM

congrats on your graduation!
adams is already pretty solid on defense. Defense is something that can be tought especially in our system. Just look at how calathes has developed defensively.
As for dekker, I haven't watched him much so idk how he can do for us. I think adams and booker can develop chemistry together and become the next splash bros lol. (Not really) but they can really be the best way to solve our shooting problem


Adams and booker play the same position and they say Booker is just a shooter

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Posted 17 May 2015 - 06:25 PM

Adams and booker play the same position and they say Booker is just a shooter

we need a player who only knows how to shoot. That way he's not afraid to let it fly

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Posted 17 May 2015 - 06:35 PM

Adams can shoot and he has proven that he isnt afraid we need someone to play along side of him at the 3. Thats why I've thrown out names like Singler, Hollis Thompson and Robert Covington. If we plan on resigning Marc then we wont have much money to play with both Thompson and Covington contract together equals around 3 mil.

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Posted 19 May 2015 - 07:45 AM

 

What I am looking for from the grizzlies this offseason then is to clear the way for Jordan Adams and Jarnell Stokes to compete for the regular man rotation. I also think that the grizzlies NEED to find a way to get a dynamic pg to play behind conley. I think with Stokes, Koufus, Marc and Zach, we are set at the pf and center spots.

 

 

my thought is really different as far as the back-up for zbo.

im great with kk and agree. he has been great and love his style.

however, for zbo's back up...stokes is the last thing we need.

we need a change of pace guy. the last thing we need is a bruiser, who can't step out past 10 feet.

we need a guy that runs the floor great and stretches the floor big time.

said yesterday, but a guy exactly like 'mo speights..jj was that too.

 

we need someone at that spot that is not a 'lumberer'.

 

*this is in no way a knock on stokes. i wish him the best and think he will have a spot in the nba.

imo, that spot is just not here.

 

 

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Posted 19 May 2015 - 07:48 AM

as far as back-up pg...i think we have a great prospect in russ.

i'd find ways to ensure he gets minutes. beans would be primary, but russ needs time too.

i think beans proved that he has deceptive speed- he is slower than he looks.

 

 

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Posted 19 May 2015 - 09:16 AM

Beno has been fine in his role while healthy, and has provided much needed scoring from the bench. Despite his flaws I think we'd be short sighted if we dumped him based on his performance against the MVP on a gimpy ankle. He has a bargain contract and he can easily slid into the 3rd PG slot if Russ or a PG to be named later outperforms him.

 

On the backup PF front, I'm with my fellow slim. We need someone like Leuer, only, you know, who can play basketball.



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Posted 19 May 2015 - 09:32 AM

Beno cant guard anyone with quickness we dont need to hid players on Defense anymore i think Delon Wright coukd ve q good back up before because he can already defend plus he can score similar to the qay Elfrid Payton does. He isn't a bad shooter but he isnt a great one either. He's 23 so he should be mature enough to crack the the rotation.

Plus he could be a good incentive to gwtting his brother to sign with us Dorrell Wright

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Posted 19 May 2015 - 10:10 AM

Adams needs to move into the starting lineup or at least get 25+ minutes every night.  The team can't grow if the talented young players don't develop, and the regular season is the time for that development.

 

The second major need is a better backup PG.  This has been an issue for about 10 years.  People will say Beno did a good enoughjob, but that's just because he looks good compared to what we've been trotting out their the past decade.  PG is the most important position on the court...I'd like to see us get someone who is good enough to start on some teams, or is at least a young guy that can develop into a starter.    

 

Outside of that, I'd personally like to see our bench become a much better offensive unit.  We need some scoring punches off the bench.  We need a bench that can come in and give us a 15-5 run from time to time.  This season, it felt like we were just trying to hold on while the bench was in the game.  

 

I'm also fine with signing veteran backups for the PF/C spots.  I don't think there are many good, young options out there.  Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have a Meyers Leonard type of player on this team, but, realistically, I'd be fine getting either Scola or Boozer too.



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Posted 19 May 2015 - 10:16 AM

Does anyone know the deadline for Jeff Green to decline/pick up his option for next year?



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Posted 19 May 2015 - 11:03 AM

Does anyone know the deadline for Jeff Green to decline/pick up his option for next year?

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