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1 hour ago, cdp said:
There were other ways of doin this. Like a 3-for-1 trade or tradin a lesser player. Not just givin away a decent role player for nothin just to clear room for another decent role player.‎
Let's be real this is a result of signin 3 unproven 2nd rounders to guaranteed contracts.

No these players yall keep talking about packaging for a better player literally arent worth a crap. Just cause they can have a good game every two weeks or averaged 18 in college, got picked in the first round and has a few dleague or Summer league highlights means nothing. They are organizational filler and literally every team has them.

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34 minutes ago, The Stro Show said:

Some of us are "butt hurt" because we liked Troy Daniels. He hit threes. It was refreshing. That's it.

Listen, I can't know what gets into you guys minds, when it comes to style of play. From the outside looking in, it looks a lot like the Obamacare repeal. Nothing matters but 3 point shooting.

Just because the grizzlies have played a grind it out style for the past 7 years doesn't mean that we have to only have shooters are else we are not doing it right.

You don't play basketball on the extremes, is all I am saying.

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3 hours ago, Kevin B Moses said:

lamenting troy Daniels while saying good riddance to zbo. Daniels isn't half the scorer zbo is or was. And no he is not the only shooter. Parsons is still on the team and we have a lot of young talent that can shoot as well.

Who are you talking about?  Who said "good riddance to zbo"?  Are you just being stupidly obnoxious again?

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40 minutes ago, Kevin B Moses said:

Listen, I can't know what gets into you guys minds, when it comes to style of play. From the outside looking in, it looks a lot like the Obamacare repeal. Nothing matters but 3 point shooting.

Just because the grizzlies have played a grind it out style for the past 7 years doesn't mean that we have to only have shooters are else we are not doing it right.

You don't play basketball on the extremes, is all I am saying.

Except now we have no real inside players and we don't have any shooting and we don't have many playmakers and the NBA is going to get tough and call more fouls, so we won't be able to get by on defense either, most likely.

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3 hours ago, cdp said:
There were other ways of doin this. Like a 3-for-1 trade or tradin a lesser player. Not just givin away a decent role player for nothin just to clear room for another decent role player.‎
Let's be real this is a result of signin 3 unproven 2nd rounders to guaranteed contracts.

I think you're giving the front office way too much credit. When is the last time we came out with the better end of a trade or made a crafty move?

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2 hours ago, ItIsWhatItIs said:

The only thing that matters with this trade is knowing that the team is in full on cost cutting mode.

The only thing that matters is more unexplained one-liner putdowns.

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1 hour ago, smit-tay griz said:

Except now we have no real inside players and we don't have any shooting and we don't have many playmakers and the NBA is going to get tough and call more fouls, so we won't be able to get by on defense either, most likely.

Troy Daniels wasn't the fulcrum player between a team of shooters and a team of non-shooters. You are giving him WAY too much credit.

Also, if you believe that defense doesn't matter because the nba is going to call more fouls, as your reasoning for saying eff-it and only get shooters. I'm not sure what to tell you. I'll just say, I highly doubt defense won't matter in the new nba.

You sound like Lindsey Graham. If we don't repeal Obamacare we are going to have a signgle payer socialist healthcare for our entire lives.

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4 hours ago, Kevin B Moses said:

Troy Daniels wasn't the fulcrum player between a team of shooters and a team of non-shooters. You are giving him WAY too much credit.

Also, if you believe that defense doesn't matter because the nba is going to call more fouls, as your reasoning for saying eff-it and only get shooters. I'm not sure what to tell you. I'll just say, I highly doubt defense won't matter in the new nba.

You sound like Lindsey Graham. If we don't repeal Obamacare we are going to have a signgle payer socialist healthcare for our entire lives.

After this I think I won't bother to reply, as you seem to be able to tell me what I'm thinking whether I think so or not.  Just go ahead and post and let me know what I'm thinking so I'll know what to expect.

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4 hours ago, smit-tay griz said:

After this I think I won't bother to reply, as you seem to be able to tell me what I'm thinking whether I think so or not.  Just go ahead and post and let me know what I'm thinking so I'll know what to expect.

I don't know why you are getting defensive. This is exactly what you said: "and the NBA is going to get tough and call more fouls, so we won't be able to get by on defense either, most likely."

To me what you are saying is the league is going to making it EVEN tougher for teams to play defense. I'm not sure where you got that from. I haven't heard about any rules changes that would indicate that. But even if THAT IS the case, YOU tell me then (since it was your assessment) how should the grizzlies respond to a league calling more fouls, what should be our approach?

 

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14 hours ago, Notorious O.D.K. said:

I think you're giving the front office way too much credit. When is the last time we came out with the better end of a trade or made a crafty move?

The grizzlies got Lance Stephenson and a first round pick for Jeff Green. They then turned that first round pick into 2 really high second round picks and nabbed a likely starter, if not more in dede Davis.

Make no mistake, had the grizzlies not make that Jeff green deal they would not have gotten dede Davis.

They also got 4 second round picks for clee, one being a Brooklyn pick. I think the grizzlies did quite well on that deal as well.

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Davis hasn’t even shown he belongs in a rotation. Of course you think the Grizzlies did well, you thought they were competing with the Warriors. It has been proven that you don’t know what you are talking about regarding the Grizzlies. You just move the goalpost or change the discussion in an attempt to be right.

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35 minutes ago, MemphisX said:

Davis hasn’t even shown he belongs in a rotation. Of course you think the Grizzlies did well, you thought they were competing with the Warriors. It has been proven that you don’t know what you are talking about regarding the Grizzlies. You just move the goalpost or change the discussion in an attempt to be right.

He got Marc's respect. The last guy that got his respect like that was mike conley. So I trust that it will be a matter of time.

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The return from the Suns is meaningless.  The fact is they had 18-19 guys on the books for next year, and some guys were going to waived, which means their salary would have stayed on the books.  This way, his salary isn't on the books for this year or next.

I don't know if this means the JaM signing is going to be coming soon, but it also is one less person on the books for next off-season, when every million dollars available is going to matter.

Daniels was a nice offensive player, but the choice was made to keep cheaper, younger players, especially when some players had to be jettisoned.

 

 

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44 minutes ago, Grizzled Vet said:

The return from the Suns is meaningless.  The fact is they had 18-19 guys on the books for next year, and some guys were going to waived, which means their salary would have stayed on the books.  This way, his salary isn't on the books for this year or next.

I don't know if this means the JaM signing is going to be coming soon, but it also is one less person on the books for next off-season, when every million dollars available is going to matter.

Daniels was a nice offensive player, but the choice was made to keep cheaper, younger players, especially when some players had to be jettisoned.

 

 

A sensible and rationale comment? Now that is a thing I have not heard in a long time. But seriously, anyone who expected that we'd get anything for trading one of our players when we had 18ish guys going into camp just doesn't understand how any of this works. It might be reasonable to question whether we traded the right guy or not, but most people seem to think we should have gotten an asset out of this.

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For me I think it just shows how much other teams value our players other than Mike and Marc.  If the front office wanted to unload a contract or two to dump a little bit of salary and to make room for signing JaMychal Green you would think it would be someone other than the third best scoring option remaining from last season if any of our young guys were valued by the rest of the league.

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On Mike Conley's game tying shot against Spurs, Kawhi peeled off of conley because he was worried about Troy Daniels. :)

And the girl with the pink headband approves! 

 

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3 hours ago, Kevin B Moses said:

On Mike Conley's game tying shot against Spurs, Kawhi peeled off of conley because he was worried about Troy Daniels. :)

And the girl with the pink headband approves! 

 

we was not worried about daniels....parker just got in his way.

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On 9/23/2017 at 6:52 PM, Dwash said:

No these players yall keep talking about packaging for a better player literally arent worth a crap. Just cause they can have a good game every two weeks or averaged 18 in college, got picked in the first round and has a few dleague or Summer league highlights means nothing. They are organizational filler and literally every team has them.

 

On 9/23/2017 at 9:16 PM, Notorious O.D.K. said:

I think you're giving the front office way too much credit. When is the last time we came out with the better end of a trade or made a crafty move?

I guess its been awhile since they've done any smart trade, maybe since the Chalmers trade. But ya'll tellin me we couldn't package Daniels and Martin, whose about to be waived, for ANYTHING better than a non-existent 2nd round pick? Nah that's bs that's just another missed chance for this FO i guess.

 

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12 minutes ago, cdp said:

 

I guess its been awhile since they've done any smart trade, maybe since the Chalmers trade. But ya'll tellin me we couldn't package Daniels and Martin, whose about to be waived, for ANYTHING better than a non-existent 2nd round pick? Nah that's bs that's just another missed chance for this FO i guess.

 

Yes Im telling you Martin is basically worthless. Nobody wants a 2 year old injury prone late first round pick who has done nothing so far. You basically have to pay someone to even take that off your hands.

You can package your salary dump for another teams salary dump. Or you can just save money and get rid of the salary dumps.

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6 minutes ago, Dwash said:

Yes Im telling you Martin is basically worthless. Nobody wants a 2 year old injury prone late first round pick who has done nothing so far. You basically have to pay someone to even take that off your hands.

You can package your salary dump for another teams salary dump. Or you can just save money and get rid of the salary dumps.

+1000

 

Don't understand why some people don't understand this.  Nobody wants anyone on our team outside of Mike and Marc, period.   Everyone else either has to prove they are healthy or prove they are NBA caliber. 

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20 minutes ago, GrizzTigerFan said:

+1000

 

Don't understand why some people don't understand this.  Nobody wants anyone on our team outside of Mike and Marc, period.   Everyone else either has to prove they are healthy or prove they are NBA caliber. 

Sadly in some cases they need to prove both of those things.

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