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16 minutes ago, Ndq0327 said:

I'm happy Brooks had a good game and I love his energy and passion

Cool now I have a reason to watch the replay 

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Just now, GrizzTigerFan said:

Cool now I have a reason to watch the replay 

Oh yea you are gonna enjoy him. However you may have some concerns about DD he seemed to be very low energy today

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That is why I said I would reserve judgment on Brooks.  Only saw the highlights but looks like he went crazy!

 

YO

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What's the go with Martin?

Did he go 1-10 because he missed shots at the rim, or jumpers or both?

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1 hour ago, BigHunkALove said:

What's the go with Martin?

Did he go 1-10 because he missed shots at the rim, or jumpers or both?

He got packed at least three times in the first half. Alligator arms.

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13 hours ago, smit-tay griz said:

Not sure how you could even make that assessment.  I'm not saying it's wrong, just not sure how you can tell.  In two Summer League games he has had the ball in his hands less than just about anyone.  Eight shot attempts in two games and some of those were ORB in traffic.  He got the ball on the block in the half-court only once last game that I saw, and he made a move into the lane and made a nice shot over his defender.  They don't even try to use him on offense unless it is a lob.  He does need work on those free throws though.

I'm mostly okay with his defensive development and rebounding.  He sometimes helps on D and his man gets away, but I don't know if someone else is supposed to be in position to cover or if he is not really supposed to help that much without knowing their defensive scheme.

Well it seems like we're both seeing him not getting involved with the offense. I just think some of that has got to be on him. If he had something to offer, he'd probably be offering something. They'd want to give him the ball, he might even demand it. I dunno, maybe it's a personality thing? I've seen him pass up a few open mid-range jumpers as well. He doesn't seem as comfortable around the bucket as i'd like either.

Yeah, you're right though it is a small sample size. I could be wrong. Well shall see eventually...

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Time to stop picking on "potential" (Martin, Baldwin, Wroten, Selby, Henry) cause that clearly doesnt work for this group.

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1 hour ago, Dwash said:

Time to stop picking on "potential" (Martin, Baldwin, Wroten, Selby, Henry) cause that clearly doesnt work for this group.

Or maybe stop trying to take guys with low IQ, the biggest problem with most of those guys is straight up they did not know how to play basketball coming out of college and had iq questions about them. 

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Wroten will have a career. He's had some injuries, but he belongs in the league. Defenitly can't argue the other 4. Hopefully Wade and Jarell can prove us wrong. Wade is only 21. Brooks is 21 as well. Jarell just doesn't seem like NBA material.

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Did Wroten get a popcorn & peanuts gig or something because other than buying a ticket it is the only way for him to see an NBA court?

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We gotta keep Brooks and Simmons. They're probably the best young players we have.

Rade will be fine, he just needs to play with team players.

DD? maybe so, but looks always a step or two slower. Core also isn't strong enough to hold against physical players. But atleast he still has room for improvement.

But Martin and Baldwin, nah they've peaked. Just let them go. 

 

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Before people draw too many conclusions drawn from summer league remember that they aren't playing NBA style basketball in the summer league. The term 'Summer League All-Star' exists for a reason. 

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On 7/10/2017 at 9:36 AM, chipc3 said:

Davis shooting from 5 feet out is bad basketball! If it's not a dunk it's a bad shot for him. Then again, is DeAndre Jordan any different? Jordan just doesn't pick up as many fouls. 

Maybe Davis can shoot the three?  That long jumper he hit was only about 18 inches inside the three-point line.  Probably luck, right? 

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Just now, smit-tay griz said:

Maybe Davis can shoot the three?  That long jumper he hit was only about 18 inches inside the three-point line.  Probably luck, right? 

Anyone can shoot a three point shot. Shooting isn't the issue. The issue is making 3's at rate that would require teams to defend you when you head to the line. Last season teams allowed Marc to shoot away from the arc at the beginning of the season. By December they were sending people out to guard him when he moved behind the arc. I could be wrong but I imagine teams would gladly allow Davis to shoot all the 3's he wants despite his one long shot he made in a summer league game. 

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2 minutes ago, smit-tay griz said:

Seriously I am only hoping for rebounding and defense from DD.  If he gives us that I'll be okay with it.

Me too.  I think all he needs to do is play with more energy to be effective.   Most of the coaches compared him to Deandre Jordan which i believe is apt.   Well that should tell everyone that if you really want anything out of DD offensively then he needs to be paired with a solid PG.    Deandre should be thanking CP3 everyday for his career. 

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6 minutes ago, smit-tay griz said:

Seriously I am only hoping for rebounding and defense from DD.  If he gives us that I'll be okay with it.

I agree. I'm optimistic on DD, he is young and has time to develop into a decent player. So far his steals, blocked shots, and rebounding have been his biggest contribution.

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Is anyone concerned that the Grizz summer league team is starting what many would consider to be the Grizz bench and at some point probably contribute heavily to the team's success in 2017-2018? Yet they are struggling with other teams' draft picks and camp fodder? People are saying the Knicks front office is the most inept in the league, but have they really looked at what the Grizz FO has done this Summer?

 

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Does anyone know if Ivan Rabb has been cleared to play in the next summer league game? I heard Pete Pranica I believe saying he was already working out with the team. I would like to go one summer with the draft picks all healthy enough to play in summer league. 

And before anyone gets too excited, remember the teams the Grizzlies have played so far are a combined 0-9 in Vegas. 

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17 minutes ago, Blackwatch said:

Is anyone concerned that the Grizz summer league team is starting what many would consider to be the Grizz bench and at some point probably contribute heavily to the team's success in 2017-2018? Yet they are struggling with other teams' draft picks and camp fodder? People are saying the Knicks front office is the most inept in the league, but have they really looked at what the Grizz FO has done this Summer?

 

How are they considered the Grizz bench?  As of today Wright, Ennis, Evans, Daniels, and Harrison are projected to be the reserves.  Martin, Wayne and Davis are the only guys playing that will probably see rotation minutes. 

In answer to your question no I am not concerned at all.   As a matter of fact Martin has showed a little something to give me some hope and Wayne has proven to be an NBA rotation player.  

 

 

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31 minutes ago, Blackwatch said:

Is anyone concerned that the Grizz summer league team is starting what many would consider to be the Grizz bench and at some point probably contribute heavily to the team's success in 2017-2018? Yet they are struggling with other teams' draft picks and camp fodder? People are saying the Knicks front office is the most inept in the league, but have they really looked at what the Grizz FO has done this Summer?

 

 

10 minutes ago, GrizzTigerFan said:

How are they considered the Grizz bench?  As of today Wright, Ennis, Evans, Daniels, and Harrison are projected to be the reserves.  Martin, Wayne and Davis are the only guys playing that will probably see rotation minutes. 

In answer to your question no I am not concerned at all.   As a matter of fact Martin has showed a little something to give me some hope and Wayne has proven to be an NBA rotation player.  

 

 

Is anyone surprised by this response? GTF believes the only Conley and Gasol are needed to take the team to the playoffs and anyone can replace the departed veterans with no noticeable effect on the team. 

I'm concerned more about the dearth of quality big men and point guards seemingly unprepared to step up, especially with JaMychal also unsigned. I do believe the team has plenty of wing to cover the loss of Carter and Allen. Harrison and Baldwin behind Conley is terrifying. Davis and Wright behind Gasol is equally scary. I have no idea who the starting SG will be but it's between the undrafted Wayne Selden and the disappointment Ben McLemore. Daniels is not a viable option as a starter there and likely will fall into a 3rd SG type of role using him solely as a 3 point specialist.

The only position I feel the Grizzlies have depth is at SF and that's a good thing because Parsons and Evans - who have a combined 6 knee surgeries between them - should provide solid minutes with Ennis. 

 

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7 minutes ago, GrizzTigerFan said:

How are they considered the Grizz bench?  As of today Wright, Ennis, Evans, Daniels, and Harrison are projected to be the reserves.  Martin, Wayne and Davis are the only guys playing that will probably see rotation minutes. 

In answer to your question no I am not concerned at all.   As a matter of fact Martin has showed a little something to give me some hope and Wayne has proven to be an NBA rotation player.  

 

 

Wright has expressed frustration with his role and there are active trade talks involving him. Even if he stays, his injury history says that we can expect DD to get the heavy back up minutes this fall. Jam Green has not been offered yet, and if a team offers anything over $11 mil/yr, the Grizz will let him walk. Thus , I hope somebody (Martin, Rabb) can step up.


Ennis will probably get heavy starter minutes if (when) Parsons ' knee continues to shred. Evans and Daniels are No D wings , if they are the first off the bench, the Grizz are in serious trouble. I like them situationally, but as part of the regular rotation, oh boy. Honestly, I like the Summer League team better than that bench you listed. Harrison is better than Baldwin though.   

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