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I've got inside sources that tell me not only is he not rehabbing his knee, he is purposely damaging it so he will remain injured and ineffective so he can collect checks and not have to play

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My point is just because he's on vacation it doesn't mean he cant find some hours in the day to work on his rehab. I honestly think it's ridiculous to assume he wouldn't. I'm sure the team doctors and staff have told him everything they want him to do. And honestly if I was loaded and had a week to go anywhere in the world I really wouldn't care what the fans or anyone else thought.

 

Plus it's not about getting into shape because Im sure he is in shape by now it's about strenghening the knee. I don't think most of you realize how much time professional athletes put into rehabbing an injury. Im sure hes been working

 

Unless the NBA has a policy to where teams cannot conduct basketball related activities for a week over the ASB, we're talking about a week that was granted to him by his head coach, not a week of vacation that he is entitled to. Let's also keep that in mind.

 

The Giants receivers that went to Miami did absolutely nothing wrong, but they showed up in Green Bay and laid an egg and got crucified for it. Just how it goes.

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I'm glad Chandler is headed to Cancun. Maybe he can figure out how to shoot a ball into the ocean without missing there.

With how flat his shot is, I'd imagine it still skip all the way across the ocean onto the other side.

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I'm not sure but I think the time off is in the CBA 

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With how flat his shot is, I'd imagine it still skip all the way across the ocean onto the other side.

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I've got inside sources that tell me not only is he not rehabbing his knee, he is purposely damaging it so he will remain injured and ineffective so he can collect checks and not have to play

If your source is an otter, then I 100% believe this.

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With how flat his shot is, I'd imagine it still skip all the way across the ocean onto the other side.

 

Comedy gold :lol:

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Some of you that think I'm reaching obviously didn't read Calkins' Article in the Commercial Appeal. It details how Parsons seems to enjoy flaunting his wealth in spite of sub par performance thus far on the court. It also talks about how he responded to the CJ MaCullum earlier this year by saying he "Literally hit the lottery", referencing his max contract.

 

I pointed out the vaca not because I don't think he should take it, nor do I think he is wrong for accepting every penny the Grizz offered him (I put that on the Grizz). I do think he needs to walk more humbly, because flaunting unearned money is assign of general meat headedness and arrogant snot-ness.

 

 

His "I hit the lottery comment" could have easily meant that he was smart not to sign with Portland. Why would he be bragging to CJ about his money when he just signed a big deal too?

 

 

That stuff about hitting the lottery was at the tail end of an exchange between him and McCollum. Can't remember who started it, but Chandler said something to McCollum about "have fun in the lottery" or something like that referring to the Blazers record, McCullom hit back with " we hit the lottery by not signing you" and then Parsons said something about he hit the lottery. it wasn't Parsons bragging about hitting the lottery, now that would be a total d-bag move. It was more of a weak comeback to someone who had a  much stronger comeback. Kind of like Pee Wee Herman saying "I know you are but what am I?"

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That stuff about hitting the lottery was at the tail end of an exchange between him and McCollum. Can't remember who started it, but Chandler said something to McCollum about "have fun in the lottery" or something like that referring to the Blazers record, McCullom hit back with " we hit the lottery by not signing you" and then Parsons said something about he hit the lottery. it wasn't Parsons bragging about hitting the lottery, now that would be a total d-bag move. It was more of a weak comeback to someone who had a much stronger comeback. Kind of like Pee Wee Herman saying "I know you are but what am I?"

You pretty much got it except I think Chandler was responding to the Blazers pr team who were making fun of his airball to start it off.

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His ego and swag needs to get inline with his on court performance.  It should peeve him off and motivate him to play better, not trash talk other players.  The other players opinions don't even matter.  He needs to care about his play separate from his pay check.  There's a pretty big imbalance between the two currently, and until the gap narrows between the two, there is always going to be people complaining.

 

To go back to the Hollins quote.. at the moment, Parsons is a champagne player with beer performance.  It doesn't even feel like he is a Grizzly yet.. like he hasn't really done anything to feel like he has arrived.  He doesn't feel part of the team (in my opinion).  It feels like he has only just joined the team but he has been in Memphis since September or earlier.  If you want to talk Grit n Grind.. where is his grit and where is his grind?  It's not just a style of play it's a mentality and an attitude.

 

Trading him isn't an option, the Grizzlies are committed to him, it's the only way it can work out.  All we can do is hope.  There has always been potential, and there still is.  If he can actually become invested in the team itself and perform a bit better on the court (as his minutes increase).. who really cares what he does off the court or what he says on twitter?  If he is still playing like this 12 months from now, he'll probably go down as the worst signing in franchise history.

 

I'm not really complaining about his numbers.  There's time to improve them, a part of it is the coaching staff who won't let him go beyond 20-25 mins currently.

 

It's more about his overall attitude combined with his play.  Poor play?  Ok.  Swag and big ego?  Ok.  But both of them together?  It's sort of offensive to the fanbase.  Maybe it's just his way of venting frustration about his injury and not getting the minutes or shots that he wants?  Maybe if he drops 30 or hits a few game winners, or does some good hustle D, it'll start to feel like he is actually a Grizzly and all of this talk can be forgotten.

 

In the meantime, he comes across as a diva/superstar sort of personality at times, but without the skills to justify it.  That word diva.. running it through a google search, people on forums were already calling him that in 2014.  There was a Dallas article calling him that in November 2016.  It's not a word I usually associate with Memphis players but with Parsons in the last few months, it sort of fits. :wacko:

 

It'll be easier to judge all of this when the season is over and looking back on it.  He can wear the tiara and sip all of the margaritas he wants, assuming he fills his end of the deal, which is to give similar numbers to his earlier seasons of his career, make the Grizzlies offense more fluid and dynamic by spreading the floor and hitting shots, and playing some hard nosed D occasionally.  He doesn't need to be a lock down defender but he needs to play good team defense.  If he does all of that, he can say whatever he likes on twitter and have as many holidays as he wants.

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Parsons going on vacation isn't a big deal but remember Carlisle frequently clashed with Parsons for not playing with heart, not giving effort in a number of regular season games and quitting in the playoffs for Dallas. 

 

Anyways, Parsons isn't a big difference maker even if he was healthy so it doesn't really matter. 

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I do like this thread title though.. Must say.

 

 

Did anyone see that Zbo in the dunk contest video? Kind of embarrassing over half those fans didn't know who Zbo even was apparently..

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Parsons going on vacation isn't a big deal but remember Carlisle frequently clashed with Parsons for not playing heart, not giving effort in number regular season games and quitting in the playoffs for Dallas.

 

Anyways, Parsons isn't a big difference maker even if he was healthy so it doesn't really matter.

Exactly

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Parsons going on vacation isn't a big deal but remember Carlisle frequently clashed with Parsons for not playing heart, not giving effort in number regular season games and quitting in the playoffs for Dallas. 

 

Anyways, Parsons isn't a big difference maker even if he was healthy so it doesn't really matter. 

 

Agreed. A healthy Chandler Parsons doesn't move the needle at all for the Grizzlies. The Grizzlies biggest needs are a superstar and a quality 2nd option. Parsons solves none of those problems.  He's not the difference between the Grizzlies being a 5-8 treadmill team and championship.

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When Parsons is finals Nba in 4 months you're not allowed to celebrate

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Now that Marc and mike have shown true ability to be alpha type scorers and the team has basically proven to be a top 4-6 squad in spite of parsons. It's hard to argue that he will be much of a difference maker.

 

He does bring skills of playmaking and 3pg shooting. However due to the 3pt emergence and prowess of JaM, Gasol, Ennis, Vince, Daniels and Mike it wasn't as detrimental as it was when we first signed him. So his impact there will not be as large.

 

His playmaking ability will be the most impactful skill because we are still starving for that overall. But inserting him into any lineup for playmaking will cost us defensively.

 

Call me crazy but if parsons doesn't improve quickly. I'd rather invest more development time in making Harrison the secondary playmaker and defensive specialist. So he can be ready to replace Tony and parsons if needed in near future.

 

I know everyone hates him but his defense is legit and he is a solid ballhandler and passer. His ability to take over PG duties alongside Conley frees up mike to be a scorer.

 

If you evaluate him as strictly backup PG then yes he stinks. But looking at him paired with Conley then he is an improvement over what we have gotten from Parsons.

 

 

Personally I would sit Parsons and save him for next year then move Harrison and Ennis to starting lineup.

 

Mike/Toney

Harrrison/Tony

Ennis/Vince

jam/zbo

Gasol/Wright.

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I know I'm getting flamed for that but Tony has been super sporadic lately and parsons is hurting the team. Time to get a playoff rotation.

 

Think of it this way:

Shooting: Harrison + Ennis > Paraons+Tony

Defense: Harrison + Ennis > parsons + Tony

Passing: Harrison + Ennis = parsons + Tony

Athleticism: Harrison +Ennis > parsons +Tony

 

Besides Harrison and Ennis will be on team next year and Tony is a 35yr old FA. Go ahead and make the transition. When parsons is ready next year then we have the option of either starting Ennis or Harrison with him.

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Agreed. A healthy Chandler Parsons doesn't move the needle at all for the Grizzlies. The Grizzlies biggest needs are a superstar and a quality 2nd option. Parsons solves none of those problems.  He's not the difference between the Grizzlies being a 5-8 treadmill team and championship.

 

 

So who does move the needle? What superstar can we obtain? What should we have done last offseason, nothing, just stand pat?You say we need a quality second option, such as? I mean, we have 2 guys averaging around 20 ppg yet you're saying we need a superstar, so i'm assuming that superstar would be the first option, then you say we need a quality second option, so you're saying that Gasol and Conley at 20 ppg should be our 3rd and 4th options? What assets do we have to acquire said player that you think we need?

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I know I'm getting flamed for that but Tony has been super sporadic lately and parsons is hurting the team. Time to get a playoff rotation.

 

Think of it this way:

Shooting: Harrison + Ennis > Paraons+Tony

Defense: Harrison + Ennis > parsons + Tony

Passing: Harrison + Ennis = parsons + Tony

Athleticism: Harrison +Ennis > parsons +Tony

 

Besides Harrison and Ennis will be on team next year and Tony is a 35yr old FA. Go ahead and make the transition. When parsons is ready next year then we have the option of either starting Ennis or Harrison with him.

I would love Burks from Utah as a playmaker. He's only 25 and is super athletic

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I would love Burks from Utah as a playmaker. He's only 25 and is super athletic

I like burkes too but I doubt we have any assets to obtain him. my suggestion is based on the fact that we don't have any desirable assets

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I do like this thread title though.. Must say.

 

 

Did anyone see that Zbo in the dunk contest video? Kind of embarrassing over half those fans didn't know who Zbo even was apparently..

 

They don't know who the majority of players are, has nothing to do with Z-Bo. Most off those people couldn't name 10 NBA players outside of LeBron, Melo, Wade, KD, Westbrook, Curry, Thompson and maybe Chris Paul. They have no idea who is in the dunk contest nor who is in the ASG. That's why i thought it was a joke when the NBA started letting "fans" participate in voting for the ASG.

 

Most sports fans in general are bandwagon fans and only watch the popular teams, then you have fans who are fans of specific teams and have no idea what goes on in the rest of the league and then you have die hard fans. At events like the ASG, you're going to have so many casual bandwagon fans and people who are there for the parties or just to say they were a part of it than actual real fans. I saw it first hand here in Dallas. I saw more women dressed like they were about to hit the stage to get some dollars than I saw real fans. 

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Now that Marc and mike have shown true ability to be alpha type scorers and the team has basically proven to be a top 4-6 squad in spite of parsons. It's hard to argue that he will be much of a difference maker.

 

He does bring skills of playmaking and 3pg shooting. However due to the 3pt emergence and prowess of JaM, Gasol, Ennis, Vince, Daniels and Mike it wasn't as detrimental as it was when we first signed him. So his impact there will not be as large.

 

His playmaking ability will be the most impactful skill because we are still starving for that overall. But inserting him into any lineup for playmaking will cost us defensively.

 

Call me crazy but if parsons doesn't improve quickly. I'd rather invest more development time in making Harrison the secondary playmaker and defensive specialist. So he can be ready to replace Tony and parsons if needed in near future.

 

I know everyone hates him but his defense is legit and he is a solid ballhandler and passer. His ability to take over PG duties alongside Conley frees up mike to be a scorer.

 

If you evaluate him as strictly backup PG then yes he stinks. But looking at him paired with Conley then he is an improvement over what we have gotten from Parsons.

 

 

Personally I would sit Parsons and save him for next year then move Harrison and Ennis to starting lineup.

 

Mike/Toney

Harrrison/Tony

Ennis/Vince

jam/zbo

Gasol/Wright.

The only way you could make that statement about him not moving the needle and base it on the fact that the Grizz are a top 4 seed without him, is that you belive that this team has reached their ceiling with these players in general and I can't stand that defeatist type logic.

 

There is nothing preventing the grizzlies to make the finals and win it. Period. And a heathy parsons would absolutely help the grizzlies do that.

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The only way you could make that statement about him not moving the needle and base it on the fact that the Grizz are a top 4 seed without him, is that you belive that this team has reached their ceiling with these players in general and I can't stand that defeatist type logic.

 

There is nothing preventing the grizzlies to make the finals and win it. Period. And a heathy parsons would absolutely help the grizzlies do that.

Being top 4 means we can be a contender. you do realize that if you make it to Conf finals then that means you have a legit shot at winning it all?

 

how is that being a defeatist?

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