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HORRIBLY officiated game tonight. You just can't win when you get screwed like that...

 

But considering that the Spurs had to sit their old farts last night just in order to keep pace with us, I think we played well.

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The spurs game was probably one of the worst reffed games ive seen in a while. It seemed like every play one of those bum refs called some stupid calls. Ginobli and Parker were flopping all over the place. Those refs just wanted to find a way so the Spurs could win. It's hard trying to beat the spurs AND the officials.

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Both sides got the benefit of bad calls.

 

We lost this game off terrible pick and roll defense, allowing 2nd chance points and leaving their guys open on the perimeter. We just lost. I'm not saying the refs didn't make some bad calls, but I'm not going to act like they were the main reason. We shot about the same amount of FT's as the Spurs and Marc got torched for the 2nd straight game.

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Both sides got the benefit of bad calls.

 

We lost this game off terrible pick and roll defense, allowing 2nd chance points and leaving their guys open on the perimeter. We just lost. I'm not saying the refs didn't make some bad calls, but I'm not going to act like they were the main reason. We shot about the same amount of FT's as the Spurs and Marc got torched for the 2nd straight game.

 

I agree thta we get some bad calls too, but they have more and they where sissy. <_< Forget we will win them on a 7 series.

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Both sides got the benefit of bad calls.

 

We lost this game off terrible pick and roll defense, allowing 2nd chance points and leaving their guys open on the perimeter. We just lost. I'm not saying the refs didn't make some bad calls, but I'm not going to act like they were the main reason. We shot about the same amount of FT's as the Spurs and Marc got torched for the 2nd straight game.

 

I agree although the refs called some bs, the grizzlies did a horrible job defending the pick and roll, and three point line. And anytime Tim Duncan goes for 28 points your going to lose...Marc has to step up against good big men.

 

 

 

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I agree that we could have played better, but still, it felt like every time we were about to make a run, the refs killed our momentum with a foul call.

 

It definitely wasn't the worst reffed game I've seen this year, but it's frustrating when our guys have to get hit 3 or 4 times before a whistle sounds and then on the other end, they make a ton of "ticky-tack" calls and fall for nearly every one of SA's flops.

 

If the league actually cared about the integrity of the game, they would train their officials NOT to call flops! Heck, they should even consider fining and/or suspending players who flop on a regular basis.

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I agree that we could have played better, but still, it felt like every time we were about to make a run, the refs killed our momentum with a foul call.

 

It definitely wasn't the worst reffed game I've seen this year, but it's frustrating when our guys have to get hit 3 or 4 times before a whistle sounds and then on the other end, they make a ton of "ticky-tack" calls and fall for nearly every one of SA's flops.

 

If the league actually cared about the integrity of the game, they would train their officials NOT to call flops! Heck, they should even consider fining and/or suspending players who flop on a regular basis.

Supposedly there is/was a no-flop rule that players are to get fined for, but I've never seen it enforced and don't know if it is still even active.

 

http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/52231-inside-nbas-new-flop-rule

 

From 2008:

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/basketball/nba/2008-05-30-flop-rule_N.htm

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3416579 (love the quote from 'Sheed in this one)

 

Seems like it may be a good idea, but then again, as egregiously horrid as some of the calls we have gotten on the reviews of some breakaway fouls have been, I don't know if it a new rule would help or just PO fans even more.

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Supposedly there is/was a no-flop rule that players are to get fined for, but I've never seen it enforced and don't know if it is still even active.

 

http://www.fannation...s-new-flop-rule

 

From 2008:

http://www.usatoday....flop-rule_N.htm

http://sports.espn.g...tory?id=3416579 (love the quote from 'Sheed in this one)

 

Seems like it may be a good idea, but then again, as egregiously horrid as some of the calls we have gotten on the reviews of some breakaway fouls have been, I don't know if it a new rule would help or just PO fans even more.

 

 

WOW... I only read one article but great find.

 

It would be a dream come true if they enforced this. I wonder what happened for them not to?

 

Chris Paul, Fake Griffin, Tony Parker, Manu (his bald spot had 4 flops alone last night) all would have suspensions this season if they did this.

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Supposedly there is/was a no-flop rule that players are to get fined for, but I've never seen it enforced and don't know if it is still even active.

 

http://www.fannation...s-new-flop-rule

 

From 2008:

http://www.usatoday....flop-rule_N.htm

http://sports.espn.g...tory?id=3416579 (love the quote from 'Sheed in this one)

 

Seems like it may be a good idea, but then again, as egregiously horrid as some of the calls we have gotten on the reviews of some breakaway fouls have been, I don't know if it a new rule would help or just PO fans even more.

 

They gave this a try back at the beginning of the 2008 season, I guess it was. It seemed to work for awhile, but the league abandoned enforcing it during the season. They treated it almost like a trial, then tried to forget like they ever made that part of the permanent rule book. A straight answer on why the league has gone away from this would be nice, but of course, there's no transparency or accountability with the league, so there's basically no chance whatsoever of that even being acknowledged.

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WOW... I only read one article but great find.

 

It would be a dream come true if they enforced this. I wonder what happened for them not to?

 

Chris Paul, Fake Griffin, Tony Parker, Manu (his bald spot had 4 flops alone last night) all would have suspensions this season if they did this.

 

You forgot Derek Fisher.....They should at get a foul called on them for flopping. Maybe even a technical or "Intentional flopping" call. It would really make the game better and people would have to actually play defense on the fast break instead of a cop out with the flop out.

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It definitely wasn't the worst reffed game I've seen this year, but it's frustrating when our guys have to get hit 3 or 4 times before a whistle sounds and then on the other end, they make a ton of "ticky-tack" calls and fall for nearly every one of SA's flops.

 

If the officiating just for Rudy - and ONLY Rudy - were consistent, it would make a tremendous difference for our team. Based on the way games are reffed on our defensive end, Rudy gets "fouled" probably close to half the times he attacks the basket, and that's not very much of an exaggeration. There are so many freaking times when he takes the ball strong and gets bumped or pushed as he makes his initial move. That should be a foul, because it so dramatically effects everything that happens after that. When we do that, we get called the majority of the time. Then there are plenty of times when he'll take contact again, usually as he's going up, a second foul that doesn't get called very often. Then, when he's finishing, it's rare that anyone is actually near him. When someone is, he will usually get a foul call when it is a real foul. But, I think this is basically why Rudy doesn't get the calls he deserves - refs look for the expected contact at the point of finishing. He's so athletic, he's usually finishing cleanly, with the defense not really having a chance to block or make a play. So, the defense bumps, bodies, holds, rakes, and slaps him as he's making his move, to prevent him from getting by. This is where he's getting fouled all the time and it isn't whistled nearly enough. Too many times he ends up in an awkward position that is tough to finish from because he has been fouled on the initial move. And when that's happening, Rudy has a tendency to get timid taking it to the basket, because the refs are letting all the contact go. So, instead he'll pull up for a jumper, because he knows he can at least get it off cleanly.

 

Case in point was his tremendously clutch baseline layup at the end of the Clippers game. He got bumped on the initial move, so that he almost stepped on the out of bounds line, and he missed his initial trajectory for his move. But he's so used to it that he recovered and finished from a difficult angle anyway. That happens ALL the time and is rarely, rarely called.

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If the officiating just for Rudy - and ONLY Rudy - were consistent, it would make a tremendous difference for our team. Based on the way games are reffed on our defensive end, Rudy gets "fouled" probably close to half the times he attacks the basket, and that's not very much of an exaggeration. There are so many freaking times when he takes the ball strong and gets bumped or pushed as he makes his initial move. That should be a foul, because it so dramatically effects everything that happens after that. When we do that, we get called the majority of the time. Then there are plenty of times when he'll take contact again, usually as he's going up, a second foul that doesn't get called very often. Then, when he's finishing, it's rare that anyone is actually near him. When someone is, he will usually get a foul call when it is a real foul. But, I think this is basically why Rudy doesn't get the calls he deserves - refs look for the expected contact at the point of finishing. He's so athletic, he's usually finishing cleanly, with the defense not really having a chance to block or make a play. So, the defense bumps, bodies, holds, rakes, and slaps him as he's making his move, to prevent him from getting by. This is where he's getting fouled all the time and it isn't whistled nearly enough. Too many times he ends up in an awkward position that is tough to finish from because he has been fouled on the initial move. And when that's happening, Rudy has a tendency to get timid taking it to the basket, because the refs are letting all the contact go. So, instead he'll pull up for a jumper, because he knows he can at least get it off cleanly.

 

Case in point was his tremendously clutch baseline layup at the end of the Clippers game. He got bumped on the initial move, so that he almost stepped on the out of bounds line, and he missed his initial trajectory for his move. But he's so used to it that he recovered and finished from a difficult angle anyway. That happens ALL the time and is rarely, rarely called.

You are 100% correct...

 

I wil sum it up quicker though.

 

RUDY GETS NO RESPECT........ he is the Rodney Dangerfield of the nbaP_Rodney_Dangerfield_1.jpeg

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Wow, in all the excitement, I just realized that the Grizzlies finished with the same record as the Lakers.

 

I'm curious, had the vs. LAL game on March 13th not been fixed, would we have finished above the Lakers because of the tiebreaker? Or would they still be in 3rd since they won their Division? I think anyone would agree that Denver is an easier matchup than the Clippers.

 

Either way, it kinda sucks that the league stole the minor achievement of finishing with a better record than the Lakers from us.

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Wow, in all the excitement, I just realized that the Grizzlies finished with the same record as the Lakers.

 

I'm curious, had the vs. LAL game on March 13th not been fixed, would we have finished above the Lakers because of the tiebreaker? Or would they still be in 3rd since they won their Division? I think anyone would agree that Denver is an easier matchup than the Clippers.

 

Either way, it kinda sucks that the league stole the minor achievement of finishing with a better record than the Lakers from us.

 

I'm going to use my first post in months to ask: why are you still here?

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I'm going to use my first post in months to ask: why are you still here?

Well it's pretty obvious you haven't been around in months or else you would know that I've rebuilt my reputation here on the boards and most people appreciate my additions to the discussions now. ;)

 

So the bigger question, why do you use your first post in months to try and troll me? Some things never change I guess...

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Well it's pretty obvious you haven't been around in months or else you would know that I've rebuilt my reputation here on the boards and most people appreciate my additions to the discussions now. ;)

 

So the bigger question, why do you use your first post in months to try and troll me? Some things never change I guess...

 

GTG 2.0! Much improved Benji!

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Wow, in all the excitement, I just realized that the Grizzlies finished with the same record as the Lakers.

 

I'm curious, had the vs. LAL game on March 13th not been fixed, would we have finished above the Lakers because of the tiebreaker? Or would they still be in 3rd since they won their Division? I think anyone would agree that Denver is an easier matchup than the Clippers.

 

Either way, it kinda sucks that the league stole the minor achievement of finishing with a better record than the Lakers from us.

 

 

We would have finished as the 3rd seed and they would have been the fourth seed. An example of this is Indiana this year. Chicago won their division but Indy had a better record than Boston who won the Atlantic division. Indy(who came in second in the Central) is the 3rd seed and Boston(the Atlantic division champs) is the 4th seed.

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We would have finished as the 3rd seed and they would have been the fourth seed. An example of this is Indiana this year. Chicago won their division but Indy had a better record than Boston who won the Atlantic division. Indy(who came in second in the Central) is the 3rd seed and Boston(the Atlantic division champs) is the 4th seed.

Ah, ok. Well that's unfortunate...

 

I knew that game was going to come into play somehow. Murphy's Law never fails. :P

 

Oh well, Denver probably would have been easier, but I'm not scared of anyone! Let's go Grizz!!!

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The refs didn't cost the Grizzlies a single game this season. They may not have done us any favors in the Lakers game but the Grizzlies had plenty of opportunities to win the game in regulation and in the first OT and missed shots that had nothing to do with the refs.

 

Instead of blaming others we should simply accept the outcome and be proud of the way the team rebounded through all the adversity this season to get home court advantage in the first round.

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I will add this too - regardless of the outcome this playoffs, this team has defied essentially all of the odds that there are to defy over the past several years. We definitely don't get the benefit of the whistle too often because we don't have the superstars to woo the refs, but look at the W column and the heart of this team is undeniable. There is NOBODY that can legitimately accuse this team of being given anything. Period. This team has scrapped for everything it has gotten, and even the injury to Randolph may have been a blessing in disguise this season. Easy is not what we do. Maybe one day, but now is not that time - All Heart, Grit and Grind, ride or die! It is a great time to be a Grizzlies fan!

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I will add this too - regardless of the outcome this playoffs, this team has defied essentially all of the odd that there are to defy over the past several years. We definitely don't get the benefit of the whistle too often because we don't have the superstars to woo the refs, but look at the W column and the heart of this team is undeniable. There is NOBODY that can legitimately accuse this team of being given anything. Period. This team has scrapped for everything it has gotten, and even the injury to Randolph may have been a blessing in disguise this season. Easy is not what we do. Maybe one day, but now is not that time - All Heart, Grit and Grind, ride or die! It is a great time to be a Grizzlies fan!

 

Your post reminds me of Calkin's write-up today. I would post the link, but I don't think it would do any good if you can't access it. Nonetheless, I recommend going out and getting a paper to anyone who hasn't read it today. Its really good.

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