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  1. Fizz goes off !!! I hope everyone will take the time to read the Wikipedia coverage of Nathan Bedford Forest especially the post-civil war entry. In that section they discuss how he was associated with the KKK. He probably was the first appointed leader of but found after one year the organization "an ungovernable membership employing methods that seemed increasingly counterproductive, Forrest issued KKK General Order Number One: “It is therefore ordered and decreed, that the masks and costumes of this Order be entirely abolished and destroyed.” He ceased being associated with the Klan soon after that. Clearly his attitudes toward the races was evolving. He was a successful slave merchant before the war but after the war was a meager businessman who, as President of the Macon and Memphis Railroad drove the company into bankruptcy. He wrote a letter to the governor of Tennessee offering to hunt down (they use the word 'exterminate') the people responsible for lynching for innocent black men. He testified in front of congress against the Klan. That committee noted, "The natural tendency of all such organizations is to violence and crime; hence it was that General Forrest and other men of influence in the state, by the exercise of their moral power, induced them to disband." That's correct. General Forrest testified in congress that he worked to disband the KKK. The New York Times covered his final public appearance. This is what he said after a black woman handed him flowers before his speech: After this speech he was rejected by the KKK completely. It's almost funny that the same organization that spoke out against his final speech and disavowed any relation to him in the past now use him as a tool to garner respect for their misguided passions. I believe his life should be remembered. He started a slave merchant, fought for the south in the Civil War, was a leader in the early years of the KKK but he was also a man who changed his opinion and became a supporter of unity and reconciliation between the races. Hopefully the thoughts he expressed at the end of his life will be used as a tool for the healing we still need in society today. I still believe his statue should be moved somewhere else. I believe his final request should be honored and his and wife's remains be removed from the park and he should be buried next to his soldiers. Despite the horrible acts he did as a young man the totality of his life earned him that final respect. Forrest has been used as a tool by both sides to long. First by the racist to add legitimacy to their criminal acts. Today by others who want to tar him for the crimes he spoke out against a leader in the community. He wasn't perfect but as he grew older he did try to mend the wounds. I know few people will read this post and sadly even fewer will go to the trouble to learn who he was and all that his life encompassed. I suppose it is easier to put on a T shirt and criticized the statue. However, for those that do look into the whole story, they may find someone worth discussing.
  2. Fizz goes off !!!

    You didn't fix my post. You changed it to say what you wanted it to say. that is not what I wanted to say. I meant what I said.
  3. Fizz goes off !!!

    I've read Mein Kampf. You don't need to read revisionist history from alt-right or alt-left propaganda. Read Hitler's own words and make up your own minds.
  4. Grizzlies Predictions

    I'm talking about winning championships too. Mike and Marc are the leaders of the team just like Tony, Manu and Tim have been for the Spurs. The Spurs won titles behind those players but allowed many other veterans to leave when they no longer weren't viewed as being the best players to win titles. When you discuss letting players go you aren't referring to Marc and Mike however. They are still on the Grizzlies roster. It would appear you are talking about Zach and Tony who were allowed to sign big contracts elsewhere. You mentioned the Spurs "always resign your vets, unless they retire." I showed that the Spurs allowed Stephen Jackson leave. They allowed Boris Diaw to leave. They allowed David West to leave who then went to Golden State and got a ring. The Spurs allowed veteran players to leave but kept those they felt were important to keeping the team competitive to win a title. The Grizzlies may be doing the same. Mike and Marc were both resigned to big contracts to prevent them from leaving after all.
  5. Grizzlies Predictions

    I don't disagree with the article either. However I question your position on what the Spurs have done. The Spurs haven't resigned veterans simply because they were on the team. They resigned veterans who led the team both on the court and off. Stephen Jackson was a Spur they didn't resign for instance. He was a great player but he wasn't the type of player Pops wanted on his team so he was allowed to leave. Boris Diaw left. Just this season Jonathan Simmons was allowed to leave. Outside of Tony Parker, Tim Duncan and Manu Ginobili, who has been resigned by the Spurs that fits the terminology of "resign your vets unless they reitre?" The Spurs have built a winning culture and they want to maintain that culture. Players have resigned with the Spurs for less than market value in the past to remain with the organization but others have been allowed to leave too. What has remained has been the culture that Pops has built. Players come and go in San Antonio just like in other cities but the culture has remained. The unanswered question today is can Memphis retain their culture of hustle, grit and grind now that some of the players who started that attitude are no longer here? I also disagree with the idea that it takes a long time to rebuild around veterans. Using veteran players is a way to quickly turn things around. The question then is how long will it last? Many teams use veterans to build around talented young players to teach them how to win games. The Grizzlies have kept their two biggest names. Are they the type who will motivate the younger players to become winners is unknown right now. Hopefully they will be and the team can continue winning but until that happens it is a fair question to ask.
  6. Grizzlies Predictions

    I'd be interested in knowing how many of the more vocal critics would accept the challenge to have their picks tracked! In other words, sign me up for the tracking program.
  7. Fizz goes off !!!

    Statue still needs to go. Confederate Park needs to be renamed. People need to work together to find some other artwork to put in the parks that encourages our city to come together.
  8. Fizz goes off !!!

    How is anyone being relegated systematically because they can't play sports? I must admit I have never seen the offending statue here in Memphis or if I have seen it I never bothered to find out what the statue represented. It was just a statue in a park. There are tons of statues in parks around Memphis and I have never thought who each represented or why. Don't get me wrong. I completely agree with taking down the offensive statues. I just want to know what we can do to change this perception of diversity and become more inclusive. I think a grand and easy first step would be to rename Confederate Park to something that better reflects the city and it's people. Get people involved to raise the funds needed to take out the statues and replace them with nice (and non-offensive) pieces of art for the time being. Memphis has a thriving art community. A contest could be held to find replacements. Let's not forget the statue is ultimately just a piece of art. It is a decoration to improve the beauty of the surroundings and make it enjoyable for those who visit. We can have another decoration and in a very short period of time people will forget what was there before. This - in my naive and uneducated opinion - would show build a stronger community than advocating to just remove a statue without offering an option on how to replace it. In my eyes, the very name 'Confederate Park' is more offensive than the statue in it. What statue would you expect to be placed in something called 'Confederate Park' anyway? Change the park's name, remove the war memorabilia and statues associated with the most divisive event to happen in the US and create something everyone can enjoy. Support inclusion and harmony not division and war. Put the war memorabilia in a museum where it belongs preferably in the basement and lock the door. It's just my opinion of course. I realize others believe that tearing things down and/or having empty spaces where works of art used to be is enough. I just hope our real leaders in the community go beyond the destructive act to create something that can unite the community instead.
  9. The Return of Tayshaun Prince?

    Or worse a Laettner style front office person!
  10. Fizz goes off !!!

    I agree. Any statue put up to Confederates in the last 100 years can be moved. However, instead of just taking them down why not raise private funds to put up something non-offensive? Most, if not all, of the current statues were paid for by private funds after all. Surely we can raise funds to put something on-offensive up instead.
  11. Fizz goes off !!!

    I hope you are right.
  12. Grizzlies Predictions

    It could just as easily be said that signing McLemore and Evans is a sign of the FO undermining Fizdale!!! Just teasing guys!!!
  13. Fizz goes off !!!

    While I agree with Fizdale's sentiment. I don't believe he should be entering this arena of political discussion any more than Pops should have in San Antonio. Pops at least has a long standing record of success at what he does in his job. Fizdale's a basketball coach not a civic leader. Leave the politics to the politicians and focus on winning basketball games. Having said that I do agree with his sentiment and I hope we can come to some agreement that removes offensive memorabilia and replaces it with memorials that unite us together rather than divide our communities.
  14. Grizzlies Predictions

    I empathize with that emotion. I loved GNG as a mantra if not a true style of play. I too will miss Randolph and Allen and even Vince Carter. I am very concerned the Grizzlies are attempting to play the style du jour rather than play to the team's strength. I realized Fizdale was going to change the style last season and it would cost games. I realized the coach was a rookie and would struggle at times getting the most out of the team. Parsons could have gotten the team closer to 48 wins (my upside potential), possible more than that if he was completely healthy and playing well but coming off his 2nd knee surgery I realized that was not likely. Randolph and Allen were going to leave sooner or later. It's sad but a fact of professional basketball that players can't play forever. It's probably best for the long run that they left this summer. However, replacing them with another known knee problem player and a bust isn't the solution I believe anyone wanted heading into the summer. That is why I see them fighting to reach the playoffs this year rather than safely in like the past.
  15. What Does Marc Mean?

    Marc is not a jump shooter. He is a set shooter and he was doing exactly what Fizdale wanted from him last season. It wasn't Marc's preference but his coach's demands that moved him out to the 3 point line. The passive play refers to his deferring taking the shot not his preference to take them. Marc didn't take a shot in the 4th quarter of game 6 where the Spurs charged back to take the series.