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  1. I have to agree with DWash here. All the team can offer a different team's FA is the MLE and San Antonio would max that in a heart beat.
  2. I don't believe Daniels will ever provide what Fizz needs and honestly have questions about Selden being able to either. I hope I am wrong but I see Daniels as simply an off the bench sharpshooter (like every other team he has played for saw him) and Selden is at best a stop gap measure right now but maybe with a bit more seasoning can become a decent player. At least I have hopes for Selden being a true 3 and D player. Daniels has always been and will continue to be just a "3 without D." That is no reason to give up on Allen. JaMychal Green is different. The team sacrificed rebounding for better spacing and the results clearly showed... what? The team improved 1 game over the previous seasons joke of a roster. When pressure time came coach turned to Z-Bo because the team worked best with him not Green. JaM averaged fewer than 20 MPG in the playoffs compared to nearly 32 minutes for Z-Bo. I'm not a mathematical genius but that seems to tell me that Z-Bo not Green was who Fizdale trusted. Green's foul trouble didn't help in this regard but Randolph averaged more minutes in the regular season too. For some reason people believe that the players Fizdale didn't play a lot in the regular season or playoffs are a better fit for the coach than the players who did get the minutes. I, on the other hand, believe that shows that Fizdale had less faith in those players and went with old guys like Carter and Z-Bo, despite their not being great options because they could play at an NBA level. There are no good answers right now but for the 3rd year in a row the Grizzlies drafted a PF (Martin, Davis and Rabb). They drafted a wing for the 3rd time in 4 seasons (Adams, Rade, Brooks). They've signed wings via free agency 3 times in the last few years as well (Carter, Ennis and Daniels). None have been successful yet. Even Ennis struggled last season with regular duty. He was a -20.7 Net Rating in the playoffs (but a respectable 0.7 in the regular season). His EFG% was 48.5% which was below the team's average of 49.1% and the team was one of the worst shooting teams in the league last season. The team may move on from TA and Z-Bo but it's not because they know they have their replacements already in place. As I have said repeatedly, the team may need to make the moves but they won't be as good and definitely not improved without those two old men. Sometimes teams have to accept that however.
  3. Oh I've called you crazy many times! I think we agree that keeping Tony is not likely due to roster numbers, that there is no reason to move someone to make space for Tony and that Tony is falling victim to time like everyone else does. I believe you agree that for a league minimum contract he is still a value which has been my point from the beginning. We disagree that Selden and Daniels can replace what Tony brings despite Tony's offensive limitations but I hope they can become quality starters. Frankly, Daniels shouldn't even be in the discussion. He's a one trick pony. Selden may develop over time but there is no guarantee. He is not the player TA is today and likely won't be next season. He is the future for now unless someone else can be found. Clearly the team needs to address this position moving forward however because the options as they stand are among the worst in the NBA without Allen and below average with him.
  4. Selden's playoff numbers were for 17.7 minutes - with the starters for the most part - during the playoffs. Since Wayne is already signed, we don't have to choose between one or the other. The question is simply is Tony worth the 15th spot. Personally I would feel much better about the team's chances having TA as an option than not having him on the team. TA is a very nice option to have. Daniels and Selden haven't proven themselves to be able to compete nightly against NBA talent over 82 games. I doubt he will return but if he does I have no problem with him competing for time at the SG position against the other returning players. If they are as good as you believe they should have no problem beating him out. If they aren't TA isn't the worst thing to have.
  5. SATIRE ALERT: The Grizzlies are trying to build a superteam which is why they are lowballing any offer to Zach.
  6. So are you suggesting ESPN's stats are inaccurate? Edmiston's article is from November, 2016. the ESPN stats are for the year. Is there no chance in your mind that Tony's defense improved during the season? Neither of us pays for Synergy so I can't speak for what his full season's numbers reflect over there but I imagine they improved from Nov. 30. Looking at the NBA stats I see that Tony was 5th overall on the team with a +1.2 net rating. Considering how bad Tony's offense is that is an impressive statistic. You would expect his numbers to be worse if what everyone here has been saying told the whole story wouldn't you? Again, we are talking about a player the team is supposedly offering a league minimum contract. He was voted to the 2nd team All-Defense team and has a positive net effect on the team's performance. Wayne Selden in contrast was a -9.4 net rating yet you seem to believe he is a better option than Tony. Does that make sense? I'm not saying Tony Allen is as good as he used to be. I'm not saying he isn't in decline. I am simply suggesting that team's reported offer (which we also don't know is accurate) seems a more than justifiable expense for the team.
  7. I believe Jonthan Simmons was offered a Qualifying Offer from San Antonio. Also, I doubt any of these moves will occur given the current roster and salary cap issues with the team. Welcome to the boards by the way.
  8. In my opinion the team is looking at Rabb, at least initially, as a center in a small ball lineup. He can stretch the court somewhat (he did shoot nearly 41% from the arc in college albeit in limited attempts) and his rebounding would be extremely valuable. Now that I have defended Rabb all I am willing to do, remember that Wallace has always said that the draft is the best place to find talent. You use trades and free agency to fill needs but you always draft strictly for talent. I don't have a problem with drafting Rabb if he is the best talent on the board. I don't know enough to say one way or the other if he is but clearly the Grizzlies felt he was. Now back to my original question. If Rabb can stretch centers away from the basket who do you believe would pair best with him? Davis and Rabb don't seem to work since Davis will keep bigs near the basket. JaMychal would be a good partner but he's a free agent so there is that issue. Does Rabb have a good enough outside game to clear space for Z-Bo if he comes back? Does he help Brandan Wright be more effective by clearing space for him to operate near the basket? It's not that Rabb himself is the problem as much as the team has too many players who can't stretch the court at all in Davis, Wright and Z-Bo if he returns. Will Rabb be able to create space inside for the returning bigs?
  9. ESPN pulled up a different statistic. I'm sure what you have said about Edmiston's positions are accurate as you remember them. This is in print however. Can you show where Edmiston's numbers are in print for last season showing Allen's defense made no difference?
  10. What has that got to do with how many players you just suggested the team have under contract?
  11. I see how Rabb and Gasol would fit well together but does anyone see Rabb pairing well with Martin, Davis or Wright?
  12. The only reason the team under-performed this past season was Chandler Parsons. If the Grizzlies had spent that money to get a SF who could play they would have been far better last year. There was nothing the Grizzlies could have done to beat the Warriors with Durant, Curry etc of course but they could have been more competitive if they hadn't wasted their major signing on Parsons. Getting an impact player instead of Parsons would dramatically change this discussion. Would the team have needed to be blown up instead of stretching it further if instead of a disaster who made the team weaker they had signed a player who would have improved the team? Wallace didn't believe so. He just chose the wrong player.
  13. Have you counted how many players you'd have under contract after doing these moves? I come up with 16 players (Conley, Harrison, Baldwin, Selden, Brooks, Daniels, Parsons, Ennis, Zagoric, Ibaka, Martin, Rabb, Gasol, Davis and then add Ta and Z-Bo).
  14. Too bad boxes don't determine if a player is that good or not. I continue to be amazed how people downplay Tony Allen's elite defense. Yes he gambles. However the fact remains the team is a better defensive unit as a whole when Tony is on the court. If anyone can find a player capable of making an all-league roster - be it all-rookie, all-defense or whatever, at a league minimum price you would consider the team fortunate. Memphis should offer TA the league minimum at the least. If another team is willing to pay more and TA wants to move his family to get that larger deal is another matter.
  15. According to ESPN, there is a formula to determine defensive effectiveness. Curiously Avery Bradley was not listed among the league leaders in this category. A statistic that shows the team is better defensively when he is on the court would suggest that the player has something to do with that. It's not just steals in other words. Tony made the team better defensively than all but one player at his position in the league last season. That implies he does deserve to be named 2nd team All Defense. Resigning such a player at a league minimum contract would be a great coup in this regard.